CPU/Mobo Choice Between AMD X2 3600+ and E4300

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oh people Just a price check.

I bought a C2D E4300 for 5300/- inc VAT at lamington road yesterday.

But yes u can get at 5.1 or 5.2 provided u know the places.
 
Well sunbiz, atleast i am aware of the electronics part. Well I should be otherwise I am a bad biomedical engineer. (If you didn't know its 80% electronics and 10% instrumentation )

About PSU u said they should give 600W at any temp. Now you know thats impossible. Temp increases output power of every PSU will go down. And good PSUs are rated at 50C which is more than the normal operating environment.

But that does not change the fact that overclocking gives you more benefits.

Jetway is not enthusiast board, Biostar is. But even Jetway can handle this much overclock. We are not talking about massive 1Ghz overclock here on brisbane. Its only upto 2.4-2.5Ghz. It will handle that much, its 25-30% oc that gives very substantial improvement in real life.

Also you talk about high end board taking away cost advantage of overclocking. Tell me how this is valid point.

A good overclocking board can be had by spending 5-6k more than a very basic C2D board.

A processor like X6800 cost you 20K more.

There is no processor coming out of Intel that is running past 3Ghz. And we are running these 6600s at 3.4-3.6Ghz.

We are keeping temps in control, and not pushing too much voltage through it. I always said voltage is more serious killer than anything else.

So if you look at temps and voltage and find perfect balance in oc and stability you have a rig that will outperform any production stock processor that Intel is marketing for general public.

In the end all that technical blah blah goes out of window. See it practically. Whats the failure rate, its less enough to take risk of overclocking.

You cover temp, be sensible while pushing voltages and you can have a safe system that should not exist.

be my guest and run your system at stock for all the life. I prefer getting 50% more work done in the same time.
 
interesting discussions i must say....guess it'd be useful for many....i'd agree with funky that its worth taking a small amt of risk for a perf. increase of at least 25-30% if not 50%...

@blueyesdude ...where in lammy did u get E4300 for 5.3k?...contact nos/shop details please.
 
sunbiz_3000 said:
And do u consider Jetway and Biostar boards to be enthusiast boards???
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No idea about the Jetway but the Biostar Tforce is an absolute enthusiast board. The build quality is nothing short of awesome for the price. Someone I know bought the m-ATX Biostar 690G mobo and all of us were in awe of how good the build quality of the board is. Infact I'd go on to say its as good as the best Asus mobos if not better. No way is it a low end board.

And thats my exact point... Cheap boards aren't high-end and when u choose a high end board to overclock, the cost advantage of overclocking doesn't make much sense... But I know a few ppl here who overclock for fun and not for saving the price!!
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I overclock hardware thats at the sweet spot. Consider this... I bought a P5B Deluxe for 13k and an E6600 for 16k. Add a 4.5k thermalright cooler+fan to it. With this combo, I'd been running the CPU non stop at 390x9 i.e 3.51GHz since the beginning. Firstly a CPU which can match these clocks doesn't exist. Secondly compare costs... An X6800 costs roughly 40K in India. For 20.5K, i.e roughly half the cost of an X6800, I'm getting performance that beats an X6800 silly. If this is not value for money, I don't know what is. Now folks overclock X6800 chips too and get to 4GHz 24/7.... There's basically no end to how much performance one can extract by overclocking. Frankly, its a crime not to overclock C2D CPUs cos they respond so well to oc'ing ;).
Most locally found PSUs have a MTBF rating close to 80000hrs (max life 9yrs) whereas they should b more close to 400000hrs (cooler master: 44yrs)!! Now considering even big cities like Mumbai where we get voltage inc/dec when weather temp changes (BSES, TPC), u can understand the issue. These are the PSUs that u need to avoid. The components for these are home-made and wont last u 3 yrs with a increased load forget about few hundred years...
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Most folks put their comps on a decent UPS... so voltage fluctuations are a non issue. Also overclocking on a cheap PSU will obviously kill the PSU quicker. Higher end PSUs won't flinch when overclocked cos they are designed to take heavy loads. Also not every computer runs 24/7 does it? Anyway 400000 hours MBTF is more than enough for anyone :P
 
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I overclock hardware thats at the sweet spot. Consider this... I bought a P5B Deluxe for 13k and an E6600 for 16k. Add a 4.5k thermalright cooler+fan to it. With this combo, I'd been running the CPU non stop at 390x9 i.e 3.51GHz since the beginning. Firstly a CPU which can match these clocks doesn't exist. Secondly compare costs... An X6800 costs roughly 40K in India. For 20.5K, i.e roughly half the cost of an X6800, I'm getting performance that beats an X6800 silly. If this is not value for money, I don't know what is. Now folks overclock X6800 chips too and get to 4GHz 24/7.... There's basically no end to how much performance one can extract by overclocking. Frankly, its a crime not to overclock C2D CPUs cos they respond so well to oc'ing ;).
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I think the config u overclocking on is the best possible deal... and thats the kinda overclock thats gr8...
 
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