PC Peripherals Complete PC configuration within 25K for Photoshop usage

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Renegade said:
What performance difference are we talking of when comparing the following
1. AthlonII X4 620 vs Intel Core2Duo 2.9 Ghz
2. DDR-II vs DDR-III RAM
3. Its not just the RAM cost but also the M/B cost that varies, so is the onboard chipset any better too?
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1. AthlonII x4 620 is quad core so benefit in multithreaded application like photoshop compared to a Core 2 Duo dual core

2. DDRIII 1333mhz ram won't give much significant boost from DDRII 800 mhz
But later on when DDRIII prices will fall then u can get higher frequencies ram with tighter timings which will help u. If u go for DDRII now , DDRII prices will rise further now and will become a pain to upgrade.

3. DDRII ram cost/performance ratio will increase from DDRII ram cost/performance ratio in the future .

4. Ur cpu being am3 Athlon II x4 620 u can use it on further chipsets like 890fx/gx variants but core 2 duo with lga 775 mobo prices will rise and become unavailable in a few months.
 
Renegade said:
What performance difference are we talking of when comparing the following

1. AthlonII X4 620 vs Intel Core2Duo 2.9 Ghz

2. DDR-II vs DDR-III RAM

3. Its not just the RAM cost but also the M/B cost that varies, so is the onboard chipset any better too?
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1. I think I over-estimated it :ashamed:. From Anandtech's simulated Photoshop benches it looks like ~10%. Real world performance should be better though.

2. Almost negligible. The only significance is that DDR3 prices will be noticeably cheaper if you were to upgrade RAM after say a year or more.

3. Nope. The 785G is actually positioned as a newer mid-range part (irony considering you're spending more eh :P), but is derived from the high-end 790GX and carries most of its features. The 785's IGP is a tad bit better, but otherwise there's no difference.
 
Thanks for the pointers, I read some reviews myself to verify why the Athlon was a better candidate.

What do these two components cost?

Intel Core2Duo 2.9 Ghz CPU, INtel G41RQ Motherboard
 
^ the amd Athlon quad 640 is better or u can get phenom 550 x/2 unlock to quad core with proper batch code for improve much performance ;)

btw i read some review about ddr2 vs ddr3 benchmark

both are same performance at games at stock no improve ;)

while oc the cpu and ram also gpu using ddr3 board it improve 5% fps rate also photoshop ;)

cause ddr2 give 3 % improve so it is better and cheap that why i was thinking of update ddr3 ram so too costly now
 
A nice site to get details on the various CPU models:

Tech ARP - Desktop CPU Comparison Guide Rev. 7.7

The processor in question is E7500 I think its round about 5-6K region, no one buys those at that price range hence am not too sure. The AMD platform is way better. Intel integrated gfx simply suck, their 2D mode is horrendous (am not sure of present but in early 2000's it was horrendous)

The Intel platform in question would be 7.5-8K. A thing to keep in mind the current PS has the capability to use the GPU computing power to speed up the process, however I dont think the real world performance will matter. The equation changes if you are making/editing 2MP images or larger. Trust me you would want to stack up on RAM and any additional processing power you can go for.
 
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Arun.P said:
^ the amd Athlon quad 640 is better or u can get phenom 550 x/2 unlock to quad core with proper batch code for improve much performance ;)

btw i read some review about ddr2 vs ddr3 benchmark

both are same performance at games at stock no improve ;)
while oc the cpu and ram also gpu using ddr3 board it improve 5% fps rate also photoshop ;)

cause ddr2 give 3 % improve so it is better and cheap that why i was thinking of update ddr3 ram so too costly now
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DDR3 mobo is only costly. But later when DDR3 prices will fall , it'll pay u back when ram prices r halved

If u go DDR2 now u save some moolah on mobo but not on ram as DDR2~DDR3 prices.

But u will repent later going with DDR2 when its prices will soar further
 
As mentioned by DarkNight I would suggest that you go in for much RAM as you can afford, 4GB will be of great use when you open large .psd files, or are working on multiple files. It will also give you headroom to run other programs in the background.
 
The problem is that 'Photoshop' can mean any number of things.

Generally, as the advice above goes, use as much memory as you can afford - though this has to be matched to the file size. 4GB memory would typically mean you can work on about 500MB files with no issues, as long as your save points are not too far apart. For larger files in a printing setup, think of more memory.

If you're not using or not planning to use a lot of filters, processor speed will matter less than hard disk speed - every save takes a lot of time if you have slow disks. Quads will make general operations smoother (retouching, airbrush, corrections) and this is not going to be manifested in filter benchmarks, where a slower clock speed will bring a penalty. So don't put all your faith in the charts.

Finally, accuracy is >>> speed, so save a bit of cash on the config and get a really good monitor. If TN, keep the panel size small to prevent viewing angle issues (<17"), for larger screens try and plonk a bit of cash on a S-IPS.

To be really safe, get a mobo with Sideport memory if not a discrete card. PS sucks memory bandwidth like a hog, you don't really want your graphics rendering to suck up available bandwidth from the application. A cheap discrete card is a good investment.

I consider DDR2/3 about equal now, if getting a large enough RAM size (~8GB) DDR2 should be fine, but DDR3 will eventually drop down to the exact same price. Tough call.

As is the budget - it's difficult to fit a very capable PS machine in that price (Macs are the best for PS, the OS is super-light and PS loves running on a MAC, it was built for them). You will have to decide on what you want to cut down on, but you'll have to compromise a bit...
 
BIKeINSTEIN said:
So what did you finally decide/buy OP? :)
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Since it was for someone else I will have to check. In summary I was convinced and made a strong case for AMD. The dealer made a "strong" case against AMD on grounds that it has heating issues and compatibility problems with other hardware. :P Also that ASS is a problem.
 
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