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ALPHA17 said:
Are you looking to buy a PC right now?

Haswell and DDR 4 will come in mid-2013 [in India] will definitely demand a premium then and the prices of RAM modules will not be as cheap as it is now [although it might taper of to similar pricing once DDR 4 becomes the de-facto standard].

Are you going to over-clock OR not?

What is your budget?

If you need a PC right-now please go ahead and buy one, if you need advice on the same please say so. Just answer the queries I have posed.

Hope this answers your queries, Cheerio!!

P.S. -- to tag users use this method @<user handle>. E.g. --
I want to tag your name it will be @+ John4321 [minus the + symbol] = John4321,
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I am not looking for a complete PC because my quad core processor is working absolutely fine and even the ram and everything. The only problem is that PC shuts down in between while working on the computer randomly and it seems that the problem is with my MotherBoard and since the warranty has expired I think that might be the problem. So I need a Mother Board which is compatible with the AMD quad core processor 2.5 GHz and also need a 1 GB video card compatible with my processor and whichever motherboard you people suggest that would last longer and also want to know if I have to purchase additional ram or not. Also I have got 460 W power supply real power pro cooler master. Will that be enough for playing games like Call of Duty, MaxPayne 3, Crisis and such kinda.

I am not going to overclock. My budget for Motherboard is approximately 20k
 
John4321 said:
I am not looking for a complete PC because my quad core processor is working absolutely fine and even the ram and everything. The only problem is that PC shuts down in between while working on the computer randomly and it seems that the problem is with my MotherBoard and since the warranty has expired I think that might be the problem. So I need a Mother Board which is compatible with the AMD quad core processor 2.5 GHz and also need a 1 GB video card compatible with my processor and whichever motherboard you people suggest that would last longer and also want to know if I have to purchase additional ram or not. Also I have got 460 W power supply real power pro cooler master. Will that be enough for playing games like Call of Duty, MaxPayne 3, Crisis and such kinda.

I am not going to overclock. My budget for Motherboard is approximately 20k
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you can get a decent AM3 processor phenom II 560 and a compatible motherboard 880G in approx 10k.

spend the rest on a GPU.
 
@John4321, the problem with your dilemma is that you want a motherboard that is compatible with the current processor and want the capability to upgrade on that motherboard.

Unfortunately the Phenom processor [based on AM2+ socket] is long since EoL and finding a compatible motherboard will be hard; even if you find the motherboard you will not be able to add any new components to it.

Best option for you will be to ditch this system and go for the following --

Intel Core i3 2120 ~6800/- OR Intel Pentium G620 ~3500/-
Intel DH67-BL ~5800/-
Corsair XMS 3 4GB x1 ~1700/- [add another RAM module later down the line]
[rest money invest in a graphics card]

Hope this answers your query, Cheerio!!

Superbad said:
you can get a decent AM3 processor phenom II 560 and a compatible motherboard 880G in approx 10k.
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Expensive proposition basic Sandy-Bridge processors with their equivalent processing prowess and efficiency make the EoL Phenom II stocks hard to push.

Here is a Phenom IIx4 duking it out with the Intel G620 [check out the gaming and power efficiency metrics] -->AnandTech - Bench - CPU.

Note: The G620 is dual-core processor, sans Hyper-Threading and around a third of the cache memory of the Phenom II quad-core.
 
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ALPHA17 said:
John4321, the problem with your dilemma is that you want a motherboard that is compatible with the current processor and want the capability to upgrade on that motherboard.

Unfortunately the Phenom processor [based on AM2+ socket] is long since EoL and finding a compatible motherboard will be hard; even if you find the motherboard you will not be able to add any new components to it.

Best option for you will be to ditch this system and go for the following --

Intel Core i3 2120 ~6800/- OR Intel Pentium G620 ~3500/-
Intel DH67-BL ~5800/-
Corsair XMS 3 4GB x1 ~1700/- [add another RAM module later down the line]
[rest money invest in a graphics card]

Hope this answers your query, Cheerio!!
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So with this config at the above which you have mentioned now can I play high end games or not. Also you mean to say that for my AMD quad core processor 2.5 GHz there is no other Motherboard compatible except the one which I had already in today's time.

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Expensive proposition basic Sandy-Bridge processors with their equivalent processing prowess and efficiency make the EoL Phenom II stocks hard to push.

Here is a Phenom IIx4 duking it out with the Intel G620 [check out the gaming and power efficiency metrics] -->AnandTech - Bench - CPU.

Note: The G620 is dual-core processor, sans Hyper-Threading and around a third of the cache memory of the Phenom II quad-core.
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So with this config can I play high end games or not
 
John4321 said:
So with this config at the above which you have mentioned now can I play high end games or not. Also you mean to say that for my AMD quad core processor 2.5 GHz there is no other Motherboard compatible except the one which I had already in today's time.
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You can play high-end games on the current configuration you have as well but due to the fact that your motherboard is dying OR already dead you have two options --
  • buy a replacement AM2+ socket motherboard and lock yourself without any chances of upgrading this set-up OR;
  • as you are not too keen on over-clocking get a base Sandy-Bridge processor with a suitable chipset ~H67 / H77 and enjoy this set-up till it lasts and upgrade later [as Ivy-Bridge and Sandy-Bridge chipsets / chip are inter-compatible].

That is why I have suggested a new RIG.

Yes finding a replacement motherboard for your processor will be difficult as the product line went EoL [End of Life] ~4 years ago. So any motherboards you will find will be refurbished pieces pumped into the market by the company with a new stamp on them. So now it is your choice.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!!
 
Since only the motherboard was having issues so i purchased asrock n68c-gs fx motherboard along with 2 gskill 4gb nt ram ddr3-1333 each. Nw i juz want 2 knw if my old processor amd quadcore 9850 is compatible with these both sticks 4gb ddr3 ram or not. Plz guys need yr advice. Also i would like to knw how much does cooler master silicon gel costs each. My tech says each injection comes for rs 250 each from the market. Is that true plz let me know.
 
John4321 said:
Since only the motherboard was having issues so i purchased asrock n68c-gs fx motherboard Nw i juz want 2 knw if my old processor amd quadcore 9850 is compatible with these both sticks 4gb ddr3 ram or not. Plz guys need yr advice. Also i would like to knw how much does cooler master silicon gel costs each. My tech says each injection comes for rs 250 each from the market. Is that true plz let me know.
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You just got swiped mate, your processor is incompatible with the AM3 socket [your processor is AM2+] and also the RAM is also not compatible because your processor has a DDR II Integrated Memory Controller whilst you have bought DDR III RAM modules.
 
As I told you, the gel will cost you roughly the same. Your proccy will work on that motherboard definitely but with DDR2 ram as conveyed to you earlier.

HTPC, Home Theatre PC Manufacturer & Supplier - ASRock Inc.
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chiragsthakur said:
As I told you, the gel will cost you roughly the same. Your proccy will work on that motherboard definitely but with DDR2 ram as conveyed to you earlier.
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How are AM3+ and AM2+ sockets compatible? I thought that the AM3 was backwards compatible with the AM2+ and AM3+ was backwards compatible with AM3 but not the other way around too. Also how will the IMC on the Phenom be abe to run with DDR III modules?

About TIM OP can go for the following --
Cooler Master HTK-002 [3.5 gm tube] ~175/-
SVGTech Thermag v1 [1.5 gm tube] ~150/- [OEM Shin-Etsu paste]
Arctic Silver 5 [3.5 gm tube] ~550/- [revered thermal paste with the only draw-back that it can conduct electricity]

For more on how to apply thermal pastes as well as which are the better ones, head here --> 80-way Thermal Interface Material Performance Test | Thermal Interface Material,Thermal Paste,Heatsink Compound,80-Way Thermal Interface Material Best Thermal Paste Heatsink Compound Cooling Performance Comparison Benchmark Tests / http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2009/02/16/all-about-tim/1.
 
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The mobo which OP has got supports DDR2 as well as DDR3 modules, so processors supporting only DDR2 will work with DDR2 module only.
ALPHA17 said:
How are AM3+ and AM2+ sockets compatible? I thought that the AM3 was backwards compatible with the AM2+ and AM3+ was backwards compatible with AM3 but not the other way around too. Also how will the IMC on the Phenom be abe to run with DDR III modules?
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I cant play my strategy games on this board which I was able to play on my Gigabyte board. I juz don know what should I do. Should I purchase a entire new gaming rig or juz change some parts of it.

Also I wanted to know who can repair Giggaybyte motherboard IC
 
John4321 said:
I cant play my strategy games on this board which I was able to play on my Gigabyte board. I juz don know what should I do. Should I purchase a entire new gaming rig or juz change some parts of it.
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John4321 said:
So with this config at the above which you have mentioned now can I play high end games or not. Also you mean to say that for my AMD quad core processor 2.5 GHz there is no other Motherboard compatible except the one which I had already in today's time.
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You can play high-end games on the current configuration you have as well but due to the fact that your motherboard is dying OR already dead you have two options --
  • buy a replacement AM2+ socket motherboard and lock yourself without any chances of upgrading this set-up OR;
  • as you are not too keen on over-clocking get a base Sandy-Bridge processor with a suitable chipset ~H67 / H77 and enjoy this set-up till it lasts and upgrade later [as Ivy-Bridge and Sandy-Bridge chipsets / chip are inter-compatible].

That is why I have suggested a new RIG.

Yes finding a replacement motherboard for your processor will be difficult as the product line went EoL [End of Life] ~4 years ago. So any motherboards you will find will be refurbished pieces pumped into the market by the company with a new stamp on them. So now it is your choice.
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I think I had told the same to you earlier but you went ahead and bought the ASRock motherboard.
 
Intel Core i5 3570k ~17000/- http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Processor-(6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz)
ASUS P8Z77-M PRO ~12000/- http://in.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77M_PRO/#overview
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3500/-
Sapphire/ HIS HD 7870 ~23000/- AnandTech - Capsule Review: Sapphire's Radeon HD 7870 Overclock Edition
Corsair TX v2650W (5 yrs warranty only) Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
And for cabinet, you have the following options --
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/-
Cooler Master STORM Enforcer ~6500/-
NZXT Tempest EVO ~6500/-
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB hard-drives (total 3 of them) 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001 Barracuda 7200.14 SATA III 6GB/s 7200rpm 64MB Cache 8ms - Goldchip Computer Systems

My questions are now:

1. The Intel core processor mentioned above which one should I purchase. If I am correct I should get the 3rd generation right. Also It has a 3 yrs warranty right if I am not mistaken right. I should purchase the same for which the link is given or if there is any other link for the same processor then do let me know.

2. The motherboard link which I have given that one should be purchased right which is having a 3yrs warranty.

3. The Sapphire/ HIS HD 7870 is the correct one that needs to be purchased right which is having a 2 yrs warranty right.

4. The Corsair TX v2650W is the correct one that needs to be purchased right which is having a 5 yrs warranty right.

5. For cabinet please tell me which is the best which comes with all the parts inside so that I don't have to purchase any additional fans or anything and should have a good warranty period also.

6. Hard disk 3TB I am going to purchased 3 of them. I hope that my system handles it and expect not to overheat or anything as such. Also I want to install my old 500 GB hard disk into it in order to not loose my old data and all.

Now I want to know that as you have told this is a complete good gaming rig right. But for how much period this is going to last. Because most of the parts are just having a 2/3yrs warranty only. So kindly need yr advice for the same.
 
John4321 said:
1. The Intel core processor mentioned above which one should I purchase. If I am correct I should get the 3rd generation right. Also It has a 3 yrs warranty right if I am not mistaken right. I should purchase the same for which the link is given or if there is any other link for the same processor then do let me know.

2. The motherboard link which I have given that one should be purchased right which is having a 3yrs warranty.

3. The Sapphire/ HIS HD 7870 is the correct one that needs to be purchased right which is having a 2 yrs warranty right.

4. The Corsair TX v2650W is the correct one that needs to be purchased right which is having a 5 yrs warranty right.

5. For cabinet please tell me which is the best which comes with all the parts inside so that I don't have to purchase any additional fans or anything and should have a good warranty period also.

6. Hard disk 3TB I am going to purchased 3 of them. I hope that my system handles it and expect not to overheat or anything as such. Also I want to install my old 500 GB hard disk into it in order to not loose my old data and all.

Now I want to know that as you have told this is a complete good gaming rig right. But for how much period this is going to last. Because most of the parts are just having a 2/3yrs warranty only. So kindly need yr advice for the same.
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Your answers in the same order as you have asked --
  • Yes get the Core i5 3570k, in Bombay it is retailing ~17000/- as far as I have been informed. A dealer from the Member's Market is having a deal, try to grab it --> http://www.techenclave.com/systembuilder/intel-i5-3570k-weekend-deal-136350/.
  • Yes, the very same motherboard should be great for you.
  • Yes, get any HD7870 graphics card that falls under ~23000/- OR you can wait till mid-September for the nVidia GTX660Ti to arrive in India, expect it to be priced around ~20000/- -->25000/-. It completely chews up the HD78** series cards and should trigger some interesting price-games. Win-win for you if you hold onto purchasing a graphics card just yet.
  • Yes.
  • NZXT Tempest EVO will be best considering your requirements.
  • That will be fine, as long as you do not saturate all the SATA headers provided by the TX v2650W you should do fine.

Depending on how fast the industry moves on from this point expect the RIG to perform reasonably well for at-least 3 years, after which, you can do incremental component upgrades to keep this RIG continuing for as long as you want.

Hope this answers your query and happy RIG hunting, Cheerio!

P.S. -- will you source these components from out of India, because customs will kill you. You are a resident of Bombay better head down Lamington Rd. and purchase the components from there. Bombay members @chiragsthakur, @vivek.krishnan and @Jakob can help you on this count.
 
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The Intel Core i5 3570k processor is not available. So which one would be the best http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=121&Itemid=53

There are 3 kinds of 2TB hard disks. Which 1 do we need to choose Seagate Hard disk in India | Buy Seagate Harddisk Online at cheap Price

Which NZXT Tempest EVO are ypu talking about alpha can you let me know please http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=112&Itemid=53

Regarding the power supply were you referring to this Corsair TX v2650W http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?...tegory_id=124&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Also I need to know which monitor would be the best which would last longer http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=51&Itemid=53

The Sapphire/ HIS HD 7870 video card is not available. So which other video card would be the best http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=69&Itemid=53
 
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Regarding the power supply were you referring to this Corsair TX v2650W Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 SMPS

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  • For the processor, go for the Intel Core i5 2500k and as a last-ditch attempt try to contact Prime ABGB and see if they have any III[SUP]rd[/SUP] generation processor(s) in stock.
  • Go for the Seagate Barracuda Green Edition 7200RPM drives.
  • talk to @chiragsthakur about this, he has an insider drop on their operations.
  • Yes, the very same one.
  • The DELL ST2420L OR DELL Ultrasharp U2312M [IPS-panel will beat the crap out of most of the other monitors] and BenQ G2420HD are what I would recommend.
  • Contact them in person about the availability of the same, I see plenty of HD7850's on sale and the occasional HD7970; no reason the HD7870 should be missing.
Hope this helps. Cheerio!
 
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My new computer rig. Thanks to Alpha & Chiragthakur and all those who helped me

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Now the only thing is left which I have forgot is which DVD writer is the best to purchase and also I need a UPS. So which one would be the best.
 
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