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See the whole point is that without overclocking (or with little overclocking), E6300 is anyday better than E4300. Ask this to an idiot, even he will tell you the same. THe Higher multiplier that ADITYA mentioned is useful only when you OVERCLOCK. And that too, in excess of 3.0GHz (comparing with E6300).

And with P965Neo F motherboard, the E6300+MSI Mobo price beats (is lower) the one given in previous page with E4300 +Asus Mobo. So why not go with the better CPU? You rightly said, MB doesnt matter much in gaming, as long as CPU+GFX card are good.

Rest is up to you.

For your requirements, this was the best i could suggest.
 
thanks DCEite for all your valuable suggestions :) now please calm down for heavens sake.. its just a suggestions thread...

Regarding the mobo, i need more info. what about the Asus P5B? whats the diff b/w the P5B and the delux version? and are the Gigabyte/Msi boards better or worse than the Asus one?
 
BTW just a thought - Someone who needs the higher FSB of the E6300 on the E4300 could simply drop the multiplier to 7 and raise up the FSB to 266Mhz.

Of course VT is something that you just cant get on the E4300 :)

The E4300 seems better paired with the MSI P965 Neo. AFAIK latest BIOS releases allow the board to go up to 300Mhz FSB which should allow for quite a decent OC.
 
Alright, first of all VT is something none of us, atleast most of us will NEVER use.

DCEite, I did mention this..

People dont buy the E6300 anymore . Atleast sensible people dont.

There was no E4300 earlier. So on a budget, no1 had a choice.
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I guess you bought it earlier.

You tell me, What difference will 60 Mhz make eh?

Specially in Gaming?

That E6300 is just not worth 1.5k more, its simple as that.

E6320 is a difference story. Though even 4Mb cache over 2mb doesn't make that big a diff. Lol.

I didnt mean any insult towards you DCEite, Please keep your cool.

I suggest you keep your anger on team-bhp.com since Im sure you have a lot of power there.

Anyways, I suggest sourav, that you go with the E4300, and get a decent motherboard, if not a great one, with the 1.5k saved, you have more Cash to spend on the motherboard.

Why spend more when you can spend less, Overclock and get better performance :D.

Every1 on TE will help you our in OC'ing, so don't be worried about that.

That E4300 will easily do 2.8G on the Stock cooler also. and you don't need ub3r c00l 1066 Mhz RAM, like you would with the E6300.
 
DCEite said:
OK Sir!
MSI P965 Neo F motherboard. Just for 4.2k, its one of the cheapest C2D MB around.
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It's that cheap now? :O
And what about the Neo2? Wasn't it supposed to replace the Neo?
 
well i agree with aditya , get your self a e4300, i have worked on both , more on the e6300 as i got one for my cousion. but in normal applications you cant even tell which one is better. and some one mentioned teh MSI NEO F for 4.2k pls tell me were (jokes apart) if for 4.2, as smc qouted 5.7 for neo2 n said neo has stopped.
 
DCEite said:
BTW if you are not much into overclocking you can very well save money by going for MSI P965 Neo F motherboard. Just for 4.2k, its one of the cheapest C2D MB around.
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OMG i bought it for 6k+ in Jan..

@Adi: One thing I do wanna know is why you recommend the 8600GT over the 7600 GT. Well there is the obvious DX10 compatibility but from all Ive read the 8600 GT is a mediocre performer (performing just marginally better than the 7600 GT) while being 2.5K dearer. Anyway the DX10 games are still some way off so wouldnt it be better to get the 7600 GT (or 7900 GS) now, save the extra cash and get a DX10 card when the prices crash.

Anandtech had this to say about the 8600GT

Even if we can't expect new hardware at a particular price point to blow away the competition, we would at least like to see a consistently better performance than similarly priced previous generation hardware. Our follow up benchmarks confirm that we simply don't get this from the 8600 series.
 
Vulc4n said:
OMG i bought it for 6k+ in Jan..
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Ok i guess i was wrong. Make that 5.7 k please.:)
Even then, E6300+Neo F would be around 12.5~13k, still better than E4300+Asus as far as STOCK speeds and OP requirements are concerned.

To each, his own. Peace. :D
@Aditya. No offense meant and no offense taken man. I just put forward my views, nothing personal against you.
 
my suggestion get the e4300 and try to squeeze in a 8800gts 320mb card bcos it rocks when it comes to gaming which i think is ur main interest...
 
called SMC they have NEO2 @ 5700 replaced the old NEO , and newer version oc decently here is the link to it .

Motherboards by MSI and ECS based on P965 , even personally i plan to pick up this combo soon , E4300 + NEO2 it OC decent enough from what i have read and for me even 2.4 2.3 on stock cooling will be good for me. my say get this E4300 + NEO2 - 5900 + 5700
 
right fellas.... so its done then, E4300 is the one im going for, and what about the motherboard? should i go for the Asus or the Msi neo2? Any comments?
 
Asus P5B will give more overclocking than Neo2.

But if you aren't getting a heatsink and will not overclock the proc too much then Neo2 is better imo.
 
Try to get a Gigabyte DS3, if it fits your budget.

Else the Asus P5B is good. Also, try to get the P5B-E, not sure if its available.

Dont get stuck with the Neo2, youll be very disappointed with its OC'ing potential.
 
hmm, will it be possible to squeeze in a cooler for the 4300 in my budget of 60 Grands? any ideas how much they cost? Thanks for replying :)
 
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Ok, lets see...

E4300 - 6000

Asus P5B - 7000 // Asus P5N-E SLi - 9000

RAM - Transcend 2Gb DDR2-667 - 4400

Seagate SATA2 320 GB - 4500

Whatever cabinet, but Buy a Seperate PSU, a Powersafe 500W. - 3000

XFX 8600GT - 10000

Viewsonic 19" LCD - 15000

Altec Lansing ATP3- 2600

Logitech KB+Mouse - 500

Cpu Cooler - Thermalright Ultra 120 from Prime...- 2650

Comes up to around 56000 // 58000 w/ the P5N-e SLI. :).

Id suggest you go with a ATP3. IMHO, MX5021 isnt worth it, specially without a decent sound card.
 
Omg yea, I totally 4got about that.

Its a great choice too. Amazing OC'abilty.

Try getting it possible. Its close to 7.5k.

Check my earlier post...
 
Um ok, didnt know that..

E4300 - 6000

Asus P5B - 7000 // Asus P5N-E SLi - 7500

RAM - Transcend 2Gb DDR2-667 - 4400

Seagate SATA2 320 GB - 4500

Whatever cabinet, but Buy a Seperate PSU, a Powersafe 500W. - 3000

XFX 8600GT - 10000

Viewsonic 19" LCD - 15000

Altec Lansing ATP3- 2600

Logitech KB+Mouse - 500

Cpu Cooler - Thermalright Ultra 120 from Prime...- 2650

Comes up to around 56000 // 56500 w/ the P5N-e SLI. .
 
DCEite said:
^^ So Aditya you mean to say Overclocking or No-overclocking, E4300 is better than E6300. Than why do people buy E6300? To loose 1.5k bucks?
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Well, sometimes a little restrain helps too instead of getting the fastest cpu within budget.:ashamed:
Sometimes it translates into a fast cpu+mobo combo leading to pathetic psu and even more pathetic display and other peripherals.:ashamed:
I personally feel a rigg has to be a little balanced overall.:P
I have seen some(actually many), who buy a blazing fast cpu and mobo, a hi end gfx card only to end up working on a 15" CRT at times.:O
A monitor is not a thing one upgrades regularly, eben the insanley loaded don't bother much at times.
So thats one thing i would get the best my budget would permit.:cool2:

For a regular user, a 6300 wouldn't seem to offer any gain over the 4300 but that 1.5k saved can help to squeeze in a 19" widescreen display.:P

A 17" LCD is 9k odd- give or take a few hundred bucks.
A 19" widescreen LCD is 11.5K odd- again give or take a few hundred bucks.:)

Many get carried away with the OC thing and end up running their PC at stock because they weren't sure of what to do.:no:
So in case one is sure of not OCing, much atleast, he/she is better off getting a quality board that leaves a litle room for OC if the bug bites and invest the money saved over a pricier mobo elsewhere.

But the first thing to do is to get a quality PSU:) - that's one part where i have seen even those planning UBER rigs on TE compromise on.:@
 
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