Congress seems to have a big lead!!

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shit was hoping for a BJP win. less income tax lol and a for a lot more serious reasons. i huess BJP folks just dont come out and vote atleast here in Karnataka they did well
 
ronnie_gogs said:
@ Yamaraj

Why don't you do what all other BJP supporters are doing and keep quiet.... BJP lost.... nothing for another 5 years..... tehe .

With your signature which has a Nazi emblem your statements look kind of lame to me :P.....
If I wanted you appointed as my adviser, you would have been notified.

ronnie_gogs said:
PS: your signature is violating TE rules
Care to point which rule, to be precise?
 
Yamaraj bhai....
Dont talk so harshly...
Either party comes into power, its just an unending procession of covert dealings and basically selling the whole country off...
We never get to gain anymuch benefit from them anyway...
everyone is actually on their own..
But i appreciate manmohan singh personally for implementing the 1990 reforms...
Has to give it to him for causing the most important change which makes India the India it is now...
But as a party or a political ideology none is any better..
 
morgoth said:
Is there anything "decisive" the "strong govt" of BJP did during its rule

They made big *BOOM* :ohyeah:

Yamaraj said:
And I shall laugh when ye get down on yer knees to worship Gandhian gods every morning.

More productive would be to understand why BJP did not make much gains and Congress did ?

Why the left lost as badly etc.

The WHY of it all :)
 
Actually the Congress winning is not half as bad, as the shit they bring in the coalition. I would choose Mem Saahib anyday over Mayawatti or Sharad Pawar and the likes.

Those guys would literally ruin the country, now atleast for the next 5 years we wont have some rude surprises. Sure the pace of development will be slower then NDA, but I never expected the NDA to have a chance, given their "hindutva" campaign was backfiring at each and every occasion. Hmm it seems like 2014 is gonna be Modi Vs Rahul Gandhi...
 
Aces170 said:
but I never expected the NDA to have a chance, given their "hindutva" campaign was backfiring at each and every occasion. Hmm it seems like 2014 is gonna be Modi Vs Rahul Gandhi...

Isn't Modi the poster boy for hindutva ?

Has hindutva really backfired ?

If the answer is yes to the above how is it possible to dissociate the two ?

Note that i think anybody could challenge Rahul, i would have preferred his sister step in, from the little i've seen she seems to have some of her gand mothers fire.

The biggest win from this electon is a stable govt. given the last 4 yrs, its the least we can expect :)
 
Yamaraj said:
How qualified exactly is he, or his sister ...or their mother? A shame on this a billion strong country!

Well I know one area in which Rahul is qualified. That's age. I think its enough. Change is better.
 
Joel Toms said:
Yamaraj bhai....

Dont talk so harshly...

Let's see if you disagree with whatever I said.

blr_p said:
More productive would be to understand why BJP did not make much gains and Congress did ?

Why the left lost as badly etc.

The WHY of it all :)

I am an atheist, so don't expect me to back their "hindutva" and other religious agendas. I do strongly support their stance against personal code and article 371, though. And I support their nationalist ideas.

On 'why they lost it': well, even marked sociologists have failed at interpreting the psyche of a mindless mob. Let's just a say an overhyped "clean" image of MMS worked against the non-existent agenda of NDA. But that doesn't transform MMS from a puppet statesman to a national leader overnight. He doesn't have that in him.

If people of this nation have no qualms against being ruled over by a family of democratic monarchs, well, they do deserve it then. I hope people will celebrate the breaking-in ceremony of our crown prince and welcome his children as future PMs as well.

Much talked about "majority" doesn't understand jack about national security, economy and foreign policies -- save for frequent terrorist attacks that fail to capture our imagination riddled with cricket and bollywood songs, or daily bread and butter and iPod or jehadi imports from friendly neighbours.

So much for a democracy in this country which relies on naivete of the delusional majority.
 
Params7 said:
Well I know one area in which Rahul is qualified. That's age. I think its enough. Change is better.
Why only Rahul, then? Why not Omar or someone else more experienced and well-versed in the politics of this country? Why not a middle class young man who doesn't need to dine with a poor family under the close watch of a dozen clicking cameras to show he's concerned with their problems? Why not someone from this forum? Why not YOU?

Rahul is acceptable only because of his family name and a heritage that wouldn't have worked in his favor had he been from a noname family.

Change is better only when you start thinking out of the box.
teracore said:
Yamaraj: Are you the same Yamaraj in digit forum? :D :bleh:
Indeed! :ohyeah:
 
The big buggers lalu and paswan have been wiped out from here (Bihar) and I am really happy to see people awakening and understanding the ground realties and have started thinking beyond cast. Though I dont belong to this place but really appreciate positive voting done by people here in support of trend towards development after exit of biggest bugger lalu in 2005.

PS: Above only for Bihar
 
Yamaraj said:
But that doesn't transform MMS from a puppet statesman to a national leader overnight. He doesn't have that in him.

Could you say the same about any of the top BJP leaders as well ?

After all they can't open their mouths unless they have the blessings of the sangh parivar, same 'former' unelected like MMS as per you and unable to be independent of 'auntie'.

Yamaraj said:
Much talked about "majority" doesn't understand jack about national security, economy and foreign policies -- save for frequent terrorist attacks that fail to capture our imagination riddled with cricket and bollywood songs, or daily bread and butter and iPod or jehadi imports from friendly neighbours.

So much for a democracy in this country which relies on naivete of the delusional majority.

This is one of the mysteries isn't it. How a party that has been hammered for not being effective on the security front ends up with a mandate.

Did the ppl see through the sheer impossibility of preventing attacks in exchange for retaining liberties. From that perspective then can you say the terrorists failed to change public opnion on this subject ?
 
Yamaraj said:
Why only Rahul, then? Why not Omar or someone else more experienced and well-versed in the politics of this country? Why not a middle class young man who doesn't need to dine with a poor family under the close watch of a dozen clicking cameras to show he's concerned with their problems? Why not someone from this forum? Why not YOU?

Rahul is acceptable only because of his family name and a heritage that wouldn't have worked in his favor had he been from a noname family.

Change is better only when you start thinking out of the box.

Indeed! :ohyeah:

This country was enslaved by the British for 200 years (Am I right?Dont remember correctly lol) and will be enslaved by this "Gandhi" dynasty for another 200 (or maybe more). Probable airport name changes in the list Sonia Gandhi Airport,Rahul Gandhi Airport,Priyanka Gandhi Airport, Robert Vadhera airport.
 
blr_p said:
Could you say the same about any of the top BJP leaders as well ?

After all they can't open their mouths unless they have the blessings of the sangh parivar, same unelected like MMS as per you unable to be independent of 'auntie'.

Of course I would! I don't think sangh parivar is as parivarik in the same melodramatic boat as the grande Congress parivar. Still, very few like Advani are influenced by their agenda. You couldn't say the same about Vajpayee. Congress' policies are inherently convoluted and they have instated wrong people in all the right places time and again. Need I even remind you of the 'gyani' puppet president in times of Indira? The present sitting what-did-you-say-was-her-name-again president is no deviation from their old practices.

Besides, you wouldn't find a prime example of oligarchy in this country any better than in Congress. AFAIK, BJP leadership hasn't been handed down from father to daughter to son to wife to son and ad infinitum ...ad nauseam.

blr_p said:
This is one of the mysteries isn't it. How a party that has been hammered for not being effective on the security front ends up with a mandate.

Did the ppl see through the sheer impossibility of preventing attacks in exchange for known liberties. From that perspective then can you say the terrorists failed to change public opnion on this subject ?

The very same mandate elected Bush for the 2nd time in US and Fatah in Palestine. The same mandate of the majority allowed left to rule in WB for three decades and Laloo in Bihar for 15 long years.

When people are gullible, illiterate and stuck between a rock and a hard place, mandate is easily and frequently swayed swiftly across the landscape in hopelessness and a deep hangover.

Frequently does a crappy movie succeed in impressing the masses and making huge profits for its makers. From a critic's point of view, it still remains a piece of trash and not of any credible reference for students of cinema. UPA is one such movie.
 
@yamraj totally agree with you.What a shame this country has to pay its debt to the nehru family for god knows how many more generations to come.Feels sick that an unworthy person is being projected as a future prime minister.The only saving grace is manmohan singh.Overall a good result.Better to have a little corruption than people hitting other people in the name of culture,nationalism,religion and what not isms.Hope this is the end of Advani and his ilk.Also good that we will not have more statues of mayawati gracing our parks,roads,buildings etal.

The only result which drove me mad was the one abt azahurrudin.jeez this guy who fixed matches for the d company won.
 
Yamaraj said:
Let's see if you disagree with whatever I said.
I am an atheist, so don't expect me to back their "hindutva" and other religious agendas. I do strongly support their stance against personal code and article 371, though. And I support their nationalist ideas.

On 'why they lost it': well, even marked sociologists have failed at interpreting the psyche of a mindless mob. Let's just a say an overhyped "clean" image of MMS worked against the non-existent agenda of NDA. But that doesn't transform MMS from a puppet statesman to a national leader overnight. He doesn't have that in him.

If people of this nation have no qualms against being ruled over by a family of democratic monarchs, well, they do deserve it then. I hope people will celebrate the breaking-in ceremony of our crown prince and welcome his children as future PMs as well.

Much talked about "majority" doesn't understand jack about national security, economy and foreign policies -- save for frequent terrorist attacks that fail to capture our imagination riddled with cricket and bollywood songs, or daily bread and butter and iPod or jehadi imports from friendly neighbours.

So much for a democracy in this country which relies on naivete of the delusional majority.
+10

the reality is that there is no "majority"
 
Yamaraj said:
Besides, you wouldn't find a prime example of oligarchy in this country any better than in Congress. AFAIK, BJP leadership hasn't been handed down from father to daughter to son to wife to son and ad infinitum ...ad nauseam.

Yes, its more democratic not to have nepotism but until the electorate thinks otherwise, the brand is electable and is what counts in the end.

However an oligarchy by definition isn't electable and cannot be changed, they just are by defintion.

Yamaraj said:
The very same mandate elected Bush for the 2nd time in US and Fatah in Palestine. The same mandate of the majority allowed left to rule in WB for three decades and Laloo in Bihar for 15 long years.

When people are gullible, illiterate and stuck between a rock and a hard place, mandate is easily and frequently swayed swiftly across the landscape in hopelessness and a deep hangover.

What are you saying here ?
Yamaraj said:
Frequently does a crappy movie succeed in impressing the masses and making huge profits for its makers. From a critic's point of view, it still remains a piece of trash and not of any credible reference for students of cinema. UPA is one such movie.

Brand again + formula.

Yamaraj said:
You couldn't say the same about Vajpayee.
Surprised to read this as i thought he would be history. Any BJP leader would be surely ?

..or they make exceptions for pragmatic reasons.

guru said:
the reality is that there is no "majority"
A reflection of the essence that is India ?
 
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