CPU/Mobo Conroe an AMD killer? I dont think so

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Well I dont have exact link but many Guys over @ XS have certified this "Sharikou" dude a Real Wannabe... and no I have not visited his place on NET for simple reason that when knowledgable(atleast more then me) peepz done the work I am not ready to waste my time :P
 
Yes, I posted this, and yes, we need to wait.
Remember Windows Vista with Avalon, WinFS and what???? Oh, they aren't there any more??
 
I can't believe people are taking this Sharikou guy seriously. I think even Rahul Sood thinks he is crazy...

Just go through a dozen of his blogs; it seems that he thinks Intel killed his baby or something... (actually, this phrase I got from somewhere else, probably at Anandtech forums) It is not just that he is an AMD fanboy, it's as if he really hates Intel, he opposes every action of Intel from their processors and chipsets to their government contracts and community service works...

Anyway, relevant:-
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95774
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97590
 
Why not just wait? If what he says is true (about the benchmarks being conducted in the way he says they were), then they should all be ashamed for printing the results.

Remember when everyone crucified that guy for casting aspersions on ATI's GPU (can't remember which one) before it was released? And afterwards, everyone saw it was true, and Kyle of the [H] was majorly pissed off because he had defended ATI and now called himself their 'PR b**** extraordinaire'.

PS. what are estimated prices of Merom? Cause I will be buying a new laptop in the US in August (maybe) and I was wondering whether they would be released then. Because I would like 64 bit in a new laptop. I mean, are the merom's going to be insanely expensive? Or are they going to be similar to a current generation Pentium M?
 
@darky yeah kinda.. but the funny thing is I actually got lag while vid encoding, I was doing an original DVD to 720p using AVID, and watching another DVD, right off my HDD...2GB RAM now (got my 512x2 couried from back home)...so no memory issues..

The only prob is can think off is 1 HDD... seriously I'd like to mention here how important an extra HDD is.. Man I really miss that second HDD, and the sys is around 25% slower (believe me :P ) with just 1 HDD...

even a 4800+ (darky :P ) will not solve that...

Looking forward to the hitachi..@ btw.. thanks to Eazy :hap2: for the T7K 250 info in Mumbai... Good news will be posted a bit later...;)
 
^^ Well how can you hang on a single drive ? Its sooo unfair to blame HDD lag on the entire system...

Grrr.....
 
WTF are you talking about mate ?

Your saying 1 HDD systems are 25% slower than 2 HDD systems, eh..

Got any benchmarks to prove it ?
 
the conroe once released will destroy AMD.the article is total bullshit.if u checked the recent reveiws on websites,the intel core duo once overclocked a little beats even the FX 60. also the shift to AM2 gives only a 2 to 4% increase.IF the reveiws on conroe were bullshit i doubt the any of the top sites in the world would have put them up
 
^^ Yes, agreed.

But its still not an AMD Killer ;). (Not a FanBoi speaking here, i own an Intel rig :P)

Plus we cant say anything. As no AM2 has been benchmarked with the 333 Mhz HTT Bus.
 
ab1 said:
the conroe once released will destroy AMD.the article is total bullshit.if u checked the recent reveiws on websites,the intel core duo once overclocked a little beats even the FX 60. also the shift to AM2 gives only a 2 to 4% increase.IF the reveiws on conroe were bullshit i doubt the any of the top sites in the world would have put them up
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Well its not fair to come to a conclusion when both conroe and AM2 are yet to be launched.
Even though Conroe is good,it doesnt have the capacity or ability or potential to destroy AMD,thats for sure.;)
 
Anish said:
WTF are you talking about mate ?

Your saying 1 HDD systems are 25% slower than 2 HDD systems, eh..

Got any benchmarks to prove it ?
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run the 2 sata hdd in raid 0 and ur system will kick ass :hap2:
 
thats what marketing is all about.

Intel even claimed P4 to be a bomb when it was released, even press was giving it soo much hype in 2001. And it was beaten by last generation Athlon when it was released in many cases.

We will see real picture soon. We have no working AM2 platform results as such. And dont forget AMD can play its price card once again. They made X2 expensive when they had performance advantage. The market strategy, pricing and retail product will decide who is the winner. We dont even know what speed AMD will end up introducing AM2 at. If they think they cant match the new processor clock by clock they can simply increase clock speeds. Just wait and watch. AM2 release is very near anyway.
 
Funky said:
thats what marketing is all about.
Intel even claimed P4 to be a bomb when it was released, even press was giving it soo much hype in 2001. And it was beaten by last generation Athlon when it was released in many cases.
We will see real picture soon. We have no working AM2 platform results as such. And dont forget AMD can play its price card once again. They made X2 expensive when they had performance advantage. The market strategy, pricing and retail product will decide who is the winner. We dont even know what speed AMD will end up introducing AM2 at. If they think they cant match the new processor clock by clock they can simply increase clock speeds. Just wait and watch. AM2 release is very near anyway.
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I don't think AMD's dual core chips are priced higher only because they are better, and hence can command higher prices. It is also because AMD has supply issues, and cannot afford to price their dual core chips too low.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2736

Until recently, AMD has only had a single plant producing 90nm processors on 200mm wafers, meaning that every dual core CPU they produce made a serious dent in the number of total CPUs they can produce. Even though AMD's new Fab 36 just started shipping revenue generating product, dual core chips will continue to come out of Fab 30 for the time being. Intel, by comparison, has a total of five 300mm fabs currently in production that crank out both 90nm and 65nm CPUs. Being able to produce chips on 300mm wafers itself means that you can make more chips at a time, but also having many more fabs helps as well. Intel estimates that its five 300mm fabs can produce as many chips as approximately eight of its older 200mm fabs. What this all boils down to is that pricing its entry-level dual core processor in the $200 - $250 range is not too difficult for Intel
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Even if the Conroe thrashes the AM2, AMD won't be able to decrease their dual core chip prices too much...
 
I'll say it once again, while Intel has been developing Core, do u think AMD has been doing nothing. Of course not, its been like 3 years since the Hammer architecture came out. They definitely have something else in the pipeline. Just wait and watch :D
 
Ok, do you guys know, it costs about 12$ for Intel to manufacture even the Highest end Dual Core 65nm Chip. Takes AMD about 20$ to Manufacture the X2's (90nm).

Im sure they can even afford to sell the chips at $50 and make a profit :|.
 
Aditya said:
Im sure they can even afford to sell the chips at $50 and make a profit :|.
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Actually NO. You're completely discounting other overhead costs of running a business, primarily research and people.
 
^^ I know. The R&R paying employee's blah blah.

Im just saying thats the cost to make the Hardware.
 
Of Course it is so low. Thats how businesses work. AMD Spent an estimated 2.5 billion to set up fab36. Now they dont only have to recover that, they have to save up enuff to setup fab37 or watever they name it.
 
Aditya said:
Ok, do you guys know, it costs about 12$ for Intel to manufacture even the Highest end Dual Core 65nm Chip. Takes AMD about 20$ to Manufacture the X2's (90nm).

Im sure they can even afford to sell the chips at $50 and make a profit :|.
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Where did u get those figures from? Correct me if im wrong but I thought their gross margin was in the range of 60-70 %?
 
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