Current State of broadband in our country; Ruled by Evil Empires!

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malhotraraul said:
The service providers are not to be blamed, its the TRAI who is the main culprit, maybe the I&B minister should be abducted & kept hostage till the necessary are fulfilled.
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Whether it is right or wrong is another matter but that method would get the demands fulfilled the quickest and with most publicity. :ohyeah:
 
It is one of the best methods no doubt :rofl:
Sometime I feel that not only MTNL but almost all Govt officials seem lazy to me and they do work when their a.s.s are beaten :@

-Guevara- said:
Whether it is right or wrong is another matter but that method would get the demands fulfilled the quickest and with most publicity. :ohyeah:
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Well y don't we all file RTIs & try 2 get answer for our questions? May be govt. is not allowing high speed bb coz of cyber attack thereats.
 
ankxxs said:
Well y don't we all file RTIs & try 2 get answer for our questions? May be govt. is not allowing high speed bb coz of cyber attack thereats.
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This actually might be a good idea, but what should we ask in RTI which qualifies as 'information' rather than a complaint?
 
Nobody cares.. Neither TRAI nor politicians.. In the end corporations are taking undue profit.

Believe it or not people are still scared of computers & internet at large among our govt. officials & elected leaders... Only a niche segment of Indian population is comfortable in using a computer. The IT revolution has not reached the masses yet but only at the doors of few software corporations.

If you compare it to the mobile telephony then everyone is comfortable since it comes easy to them in terms of using the technology & mass appeal. Corruption is a clear problem & I can safely assume that such big ISP's must have TRAI officials on their payrolls...

As Gaurish suggested, awareness is the only way along with RTI.. Put up this issue on your social network, discuss it fiercely among friends & colleagues. Fire complaints to Govt. / News media & a few politicians if you can.. Unless there is proper attention among masses & media, nobody is going to blink... Indians ISP's have a history of milking Indian consumers by artificially keeping the bandwidth prices high while they are sitting on it comfortably. They have created an artificial supply/ demand gap & always cite it as a reason for high bandwidth cost..
 
I'm not so complaining about this idea as of now... i agree it was really bad back in the days when 256kbps was the absolute norm.

Personally i use a 2mbps connection (the speed is enough for most of my purposes and i'm sure is enough for 95% of the indian home population), for which i shell out about 1.8k a month, that includes enough free calls as well. i dont think this is a very bad deal, esp when you consider that the rest of the phone related prices are extremely cheap (includes landlines and mobiles calling costs). i think it's a fair enough tradeoff, all in all.

I'm sure there are countries which do worse than us, a whole lot of them doing better than us (we're getting there) - but I certainly didnt think 6 years ago that I could afford a 2mbps connection at home.
 
As someone rightly pointed out this is not because of apathy of corportations or like, but due to the most idiotic Telecommunications minister India could have.

Because of coalition politics and corruption, this A. Raja has done nothing but the hold back the key changes or reforms and made BSNL pay for his antics. From 4000 Cr. profit to Loss in 4 straight years.

Look at broadband, MNP, Opening up of Last mile Loop, 3G, VOiP, Video Calling, almost everything you name and its stuck at minister level.

I feel the best reform in India in Telecommunications came when Rajiv Gandhi gave free hand to Mr. Sam Pitroda to reform the Long Distance Telephony, Imagine waiting to call your relative / friend in other state / city and you book ordinary call and told there is waiting of x hours. :(

Next came some steps by Pramod Mahajan, whatever corruption he did, but atleast he worked fast.

Hope someone fires this SOB minister of communications.
 
medpal said:
Look at broadband, MNP, Opening up of Last mile Loop, 3G, VOiP, Video Calling, almost everything you name and its stuck at minister level.
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Their moto is, why do it swiftly and for free when we can move at snail pace and mint money at every possible point or when when some firm comes along who is ready to fill up our pockets for approval of the project.
 
If m not wrong, for High Speed Internet access Optic fibre cables have to be laid which involves heavy expenditure , right ?
 
Gaurish said:
these evil companies are looting us and also slowing down overall economic growth
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Pardon my ignorance but how is your lack of ability to download pirated HD movies 24/7 at 2Mbps by paying 200 rupees a month related to economic slowdown.

Or is it that soon everyone will need larger hard drives and computer industry will take off. The storage industry will get the impetus it needs to setup manufacturing plants in India which in turn will provide hundreds of jobs and improve the GDP growth.
 
@anfjavid

yes they are expensive, but also are future proof..

imagine the cost of entire upgrade when the present infrastructure goes obsolete.

rather than repairing the same cables..government should start upgrading in phased manner..

south koreans thought about this much earlier..and they already have good fibre optic network to support todays needs
 
Excellent article. The state of affairs in India regarding Broadband are really sad. Be it in terms of infrastructure, government red tape, pricing, customer service, corporate monopoly. Broadband at home is still considered a luxury. Both corporations and the government have realized telelcommunications is a big 'cash cow'. See what is happening with the 3G license auctions. TRAI is sitting on their a$$ and devising new schemes and rules for the auctions. Trying to get the most out of it. While ago I read an article where the municipal corporation of Noida shut down communication towers, cause they were not being paid the correct rent. Now that is like choking a person. One cannot just cut communications on the whim. Heck that is one of the first things USA did when Desert Storm began. Statistics show, that increasing the Broadband penetration levels causes an increase of GDP. This is a critical parameter which will help India move forward. But the pace we are moving at, it is sad.

But, the government is not the culprit only. The service providers are riding the band-wagon too. Not sure how they plan their packages, but yes they are expensive as compared to the rest of the world. It is purely lobbyist in nature. But companies hardly think for the good of a nation. They just reap the fruits, and plow forward.

On the flip-side, this is the situation in Finland. Broadband is a public right.
 
Renegade said:
Pardon my ignorance but how is your lack of ability to download pirated HD movies 24/7 at 2Mbps by paying 200 rupees a month related to economic slowdown.

Or is it that soon everyone will need larger hard drives and computer industry will take off. The storage industry will get the impetus it needs to setup manufacturing plants in India which in turn will provide hundreds of jobs and improve the GDP growth.
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Hi,

you are not understanding. what I am saying is, there is a complete lack of affordable bandwidth. Internet for masses is not here yet.broadband connections are still a luxury due to high monthly rentals and huge setup costs.

There are lot of E-governance projects which are not taking off due to lack of broadband. even today there is lot usefull information available on Govt websites about laws,latest welfare schemes but common man faces difficulty in getting that information.

Lastly, Rest of the world has better connectivity,faster speeds and cheaper rates. why should we be inferior? Or you have accepted that India is a 3rd world country, hence we should tolerate 3rd grade services.

Believe it or not, Internet will play a major role in development.And its Time, Govt realizes that and forms correct policies to move in that direction.
 
titana said:
@anfjavid
yes they are expensive, but also are future proof..
imagine the cost of entire upgrade when the present infrastructure goes obsolete.
rather than repairing the same cables..government should start upgrading in phased manner..
south koreans thought about this much earlier..and they already have good fibre optic network to support todays needs
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Indians are always stinchy. For ex. if a shirt sells for Rs.500, they will buy 2 shirts for Rs.500 @ 250 each showing least concern to quality. Thats how their mentality is. They always go for sub- standard goods and services and are ready to compromise quality for price. Likewise the govt. also saves a lot of amount by not implementing latest technology especially in the BB sector.

You know how many people even today are sticking on to Narrow band. When asked they just say its enough for checking mails. WTF :@. And the lack of demand is also a reason why these pricks remain idle..
 
anfjavid said:
Indians are always stinchy. Thats how their mentality is. They always go for sub- standard goods and services and are ready to compromise quality for price. Likewise the govt. also saves a lot of amount by not implementing latest technology especially in the BB sector.

You know how many people even today are sticking on to Narrow band. When asked they just say its enough for checking mails. WTF :@. And the lack of demand is also a reason why these pricks remain idle..
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completely agree with it
 
indian ISP are a "mafia", they are cheating customers by taking huge money from them for low quality services, the main thing is that they have ultra high speed infrastructure and only using a 3% of them , and if any customer wants more speed they will suck his blood.

its a game with ISP & TRAI.!
the ordinary man still has to wait for 45mints to download a 2.5mb device driver !

the common man's 15-20% of time is lost before sitting on the PC for downloading.

if the ISP priovides high speed connection at lower rates then India can save huge energy too, normally more than 60% of computers keep powered ON for more time than actual time for downloads, for just a 5mints DL they have to keep PC on for 45Mints !!!

its time to wake up the Govt: !!!! else .................
 
We still have 'Download Amount' as a parameter in the package. As if it is electricity or water.
 
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