DBA-02: Definitely Better Audio?

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esanthosh

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Let me begin by stating that whatever I am about to write are my impressions based on listening to Fischer Audio DBA-02 for 12 hours during the last weekend and a couple of hours now (ear pain not withstanding). As usual, these impressions are highly subjective, personal and by no means accurate or even fully formed. Any new toy shows you it's "good side" initially; it's only with time that you figure out the "bad things". So, please keep that in mind while you read on. And this may be a bit longer for some.

Introduction

After a 25 day waiting period, I finally got my second dual driver (the first being Radius "DDM"). To be frank, fun IEMs are like a friend arriving in Merc/Limousine. You get interested at first sight. In a few cases though, you start to feel that he's talking sheer non-sense later on.

Analytical IEMs on the other hand are similar to an uninteresting looking neighbor. He wears plain clothes, is not flashy and keeps to himself. But when you start talking, you find traits that are special, unique and interesting. So, while I got excited by the arrival of DDM, I had to go through various genres for a few hours before appreciating what DBA-02 does.

Unboxing



Technical Specs
Impedence: 43 ohms
Sensitivity: 108 dB
Maximum Power input: 60 mw
Frequency range: 20 Hz – 24000 Hz (Really, I don’t care for this spec since I don’t hear either extremes. Mine is more like 25/30 – 16 Khz + may be a tiny bit more. What difference does it make if it produces 30Khz or 15Hz? ;))

Packing, Looks, Build Quality

Packing: The packing is simple, neat and nothing that makes you go “wowâ€. But, I like minimal packing. It’s interesting that FA mentions “We don’t input bells-and-whistles in the pack to soothe a consumer instinct. And we don’t squeeze you to pay for needless scrap paper†on the back of the pack. I whole-heartedly agree.

Contents: Inside you have the IEM, warranty card, a carry pouch, cable wrap, ear guides and an assortment of tips. The number of tips available has improved (for the better) in the current batch compared to the previous batch reviewed by |joker|. The tips include single flanges in the usual three sizes (S, M, L), a triple flange and two other tips that remind me of Sony hybrids.

The IEM: Either I have poor vision or they forgot to mark Left and Right. I initially had to use a well-known song to figure out L/R for good (Edit: Found it). Now, I am using one color of tips (Blue in grey color) for Left and a green in white tip for right. The cable is a twisted cord and feels better than most IEMs I own. It’s 1.3m in length and is similar to most other IEM cables, but somehow it “feels†longer – maybe I’m just hallucinating. The jack is a straight one. The pouch is not good enough to store the IEM. I am using the (slightly larger) Hippo VB case as smaller Chinese ear phone case I typically use tangles up the cord easily.

The shells look pretty cool in the combo of white and blue, a change from the usual blacks. The nozzle is angled and for my ears, these provide the best seal and comfort than any other IEM. It’s strange that I also got a good fit from DDM, known for their “horrible fitâ€. May be my ears are just different.

Microphonics: I’ve not used them straight down, always over the ear. I initially used FA’s own ear guides. But as usual, I went back to Phonak Silicone guides, which are thinner and give no discomfort whatsoever. It’s in my own way, a small “award†of sorts. I have 4 sets of ear guides, which I use for my Top 4 IEMs (which I’m most likely to use). I observed no micrphonics whatsoever using them.

Isolation: Isolation is pretty good. But like most other IEMs, it does not block out everything. I haven’t tried the triple flanges at the time of writing though.

Ease of driving: It’s much easily driven than either RE0 / PFE. With S9, I need to keep the same volume for both DBA-02 and DDM. I had to notch it up by 4/5 to hear a similar level with RE0/PFE. (Update 2010-09-28 18:20): When using iBasso T3 (volume level: 8), it does not hiss when only the +2dB gain switch is on, but there's a hiss when +5dB gain switch is on - either alone or when using in full gain (both gain switches on) mode. But the hiss is not too much to worry about, but I thought I'll mention it anyways. Just to be clear, it does not hiss with S9 / Clip+ / Fuze when plugged in directly. (Update 2010-09-30 21:00):The issue is due to T3 and DBA mismatch.

Sound Quality

Speed: Now, let’s get to the subjective part of the review. The first thing I usually do with IEMs is play some Opeth, a band I’m familiar with. The first thing I observed was that cymbals were aggressive, in your face more than other IEMs. With a slew of track changes, I observed that this one’s great on speed. With RE0, I always felt that it let me linger on a particular note for sometime before moving on. This one didn’t care. It was like trying to catch beautiful scenery from a speeding bullet train.

This is not a bad trait at all. I later tried a few tracks specifically. One is “Bulb Drop†from Focal Audio Demo disc #2, which tests for transients. I find DBA-02 is better than PFE (by a tiny bit), DDM and RE0 – in that order. The next track is “Saraswathi†which features Mandolin (by U. Rajesh). With DBA-02, I can literally feel plucks and was worried strings might break. RE0, though nicer is missing a few notes for sure. Similar is the case with a Classical track I tried (Mozart’s Sonata #21 by Itzahak Perlman and Daniel Barenboim), but the differences got minor.

Bass: The bass quantity is better than RE0 and PFE (un-amped). It presents better texture with a good extension. The bass on RE0 has a mid-bass hump and while PFE has very good quality, it requires amplification. But, this is nowhere close to DDM or other bass heavy IEMs in quantity. So, Electronica/Hip-Hop listeners, this is not your cup of tea. On the other hand, I feel that bass is more natural and fits my taste of quickly decaying notes. It’s just about the right quantity for me.

Mids, Vocals: The mids I first thought were a bit aggressive, especially with high gain recording like Opeth. But, lowering the volume a bit helps. It’s forward and energetic though. Vocals are clear, but you definitely cannot avoid sibilance. In almost all cases, I find that the sibilance is in the recording itself. Fortunately, it does not bite your ears, but is still an annoyance you have to live with. At this stage, after 15 hours, I am still on the other side of the “BA burn-in†camp. It could be placebo or “bull†that sibilance goes away (or things improving) on burn-in. But, I won’t mind if it happens though :)

With DDM, the vocals sound much nearer, clearer and without sibilance. DBA-02 is not far behind, but since the presentation is not as pleasant, DDM “feels†a tad better.

Treble: The treble is where it really scores. Extended, sparkling and in your face. If anyone finds RE0 aggressive, then strike DBA-02 off your wish list immediately.

Sound Stage: The sound stage is normal with decent amount of depth. The separation and clarity are very good.

It does seem to do well with better source files. Majority of my files in S9 are 320kbps or FLACs. But, when I tried a 128kbps file, it was showing through.

So, where does it stand in my list?: I won’t blame you if you read this far and think it’s “just another IEMâ€. But, to me, it’s never the individual traits that make or break an IEM, rather the overall presentation. DBA-02 does not force me to focus on any one aspect particularly. It just resolves things quickly and stands out of the way. At first, it felt like before you can think “This is…†…. “great!â€, it has already moved up two notes ahead. It’s a bit confusing and complex passages seemed a bit congested. Instrument Separation does not strike you at all. With time, I realized it’s more natural and dare I say a bit musical.

Going back to RE0, I still like how it pauses on a few milliseconds, allowing me to enjoy a note. PFE, being a BA has similar speed, but due to it’s smoother presentation, it never struck me as much as DBA-02. With more listening across genres, there were smaller nuances that keep hitting me now and then. A few things that I’ve not observed in other IEMs came out clearly to the fore front as a result of DBA-02’s presentation. The major clincher is that it does not sound “thin†or “dryâ€. Further, it yields well to low volume listening (unlike DDM which seems to require some volume level to sound good) and responds to amp-ing as well, though you can’t ask for “night and day†improvement. For my rusted iron ears, I did not observe anything great apart from SPL levels when introducing T3 into the chain.

So, I am putting DBA-02 at the very top of my IEM list (at least provisionally).

Conclusion

In short, technically, it’s the best IEM I have heard thus far. Sure, I’m still a “VFM†guy and have not tried any other top IEM like TF10, SM3, IE8, CK10 or for that matter, customs. But, you know a top-tier IEM when you realize that the “upgrades in sound quality†from hereon would be minimal and due to law of diminishing returns, costlier. With DBA-02, I feel I have reached such a stage. For $170, what this IEM provides is lot of value for money.

You can get a wide sound stage with IE8/TF10, better bass with IE8/TF10/SM3 and even better separation with UM3X/SM3 and always something else with a different style of presentation. But, this would be getting into nit-picking territory. Frankly, I think a ‘decent’ upgrade from hereon would be customs, unless I want to add more IEMs to my collection (which can always happen :ashamed:)

But, Is it for me as well?

But, is it for everyone? Not if you won’t like its aggressive presentation. Is it an upgrade from RE0? Technically, factors like better bass, body, speed, slightly better treble, and overall presentation should make me say “Yes!â€. DBA-02, at least in my book, is worth that extra $90, as you are moving from a “near top-tier†IEM to something in the “top-tierâ€. But you are looking at law of diminishing returns in action than a “twice better sound qualityâ€.

Actually, how much are you really missing if you own a RE0 and not a DBA-02? Not as much as it’s made out to be. At this stage, you are looking for a few more goose bumps and WTF moments. If you go back and forth between the two, you realize you are definitely missing ‘things’, but should you really, I mean really give a damn about it? Not really, if you ask me.

Personally, I’ve always looked for an upgrade to RE0 and hence it made sense for me. If you too are, and you won’t mind this kind of presentation, then by all means, give it a try. But, be sure to read many more opinions on head-fi just to be sure before putting down nearly 8K of your money.
 
Excellent review Santhosh. You covered all the aspects I was interested in. Looking forward to more reviews from you. ;)
A few pics would have definitely added more value. Get/steal a decent cam and do the job. :)
I am surprised that DBA-02 fairs better than RE0 in treble. That would be a treat for a treble head like me!(I too can't hear anything beyond 16K, expected at my age) Better speed decay too is welcome, started appreciating after listening to an ortho. This should really be good vfm.
 
Pics added. Sorry! This is the best I could do for now. May be I'll upload better pics later on :ashamed:

In treble, I don't think there will be an enormous difference. However, considering the way DBA-02 presents things (the difference in decay), you can sure perceive better things.
 
i m a bit tempted to try THE BORING IEMS(read as analytical) after reading ur review:rofl:
May b i was not able to get enough of my re0 b4 they were gone
i will start with re262:ashamed:
 
Awesome review Esantosh ! :D

Very well written and crisp.

Now buy some more IEMs so that we can get to read more reviews from you ! :P
 
BF1983 said:
Awesome review Esantosh ! :D

Very well written and crisp.

Now buy some more IEMs so that we can get to read more reviews from you ! :P
congrats to u brendon for new dac and amp setup
 
@haraakiri, toxicdrift, vasishta,

Thanks.

mukulymn said:
i m a bit tempted to try THE BORING IEMS(read as analytical) after reading ur review:rofl:

May b i was not able to get enough of my re0 b4 they were gone

i will start with re262:ashamed:
If you like RE1 more than RE0, I don't think there's anything 'wrong' :P.

Analytical IEMs are not for everybody. If I am not wrong, Brendon prefers something musical compared to something dry. I prefer something 'dry' most of the time. IMHO, does not make one kind of taste superior or anything.

BF1983 said:
Awesome review Esantosh ! :D

Very well written and crisp.

Now buy some more IEMs so that we can get to read more reviews from you ! :P

If there's another IEM which is more tempting at a decent price point, may be I'll buy :ashamed:. More reviews? Let me write a few lines about each IEM I own later on.
 
Amazing review esantosh .This one could be the perfect VFM IEM for me with it's aggressive treble as well as mids if not for the mediocre soundstage.The soundstage I assume is just as good or little better than RE-0 ?
 
After some A/B, B/A-ing, I'd say it's only as wide as RE0. But, it has more depth than RE0 and instruments seem to have more air around them. Going back and forth, RE0's laid back presentation works well with Opeth as at higher volume levels, DBA-02 starts to bite a bit.

At this stage, I feel I can heartily recommend DDM to anybody. But due to it's presentation, I don't think I can recommend DBA-02 to just about anybody looking for an analytical IEM. But, clearly they feel superior compared to un-amped RE0 in many ways (added) and the differences are still notable, but become subtler when comparing an amped RE0(added). [Deleted]It'd be interesting to see how it fares against amp-ed RE0 and PFE.[Deleted]

@haraakiri,

[Edited] To my ears at least, DBA-02 seems to have a very slight edge over RE-0 (both when amp-ed and un-amped) in the treble department. But, if you go back and forth, the differences are very minimal and depending on the song, you might observe it. It could still be the difference in speed that gives me this impression or I have a placebo and my brain thinks everything about DBA-02 is good enough. Could be either :)

The earlier note here talked only about un-amped RE0 and was not very clear about the difference part. Edited it so that I don't give the impression that it's a night and day difference.
 
^ The transient test (a few tracks mentioned in the beginning) was done with PFE, RE0 both amped to the max using iBasso T3 (+7 dB) vs DBA-02 using the same gain (of course, much lower volume, 6 points reduced in S9) from my S9. Today's sound stage test was done without amping - RE0 (Rockboxed Clip+ at -17 dB) vs DBA-02 (-21 dB). I volume match (unscientifically using my ears) when doing any sort of comparison. If there are observations to the contrary, I'll be sure to update. But, I don't think I'll need to re-write anything in my review / comments :)

Update: Your question created a bit of doubt in my mind. So, I went back and did a comparison of RE-0 amped with iBasso T3 at max with Clip+ at -22dB vs DBA-02 unamped with Clip+ at -20dB (S9 is charging, so could not use it). With amping, RE0 gains a bit more width in sound stage, may be slightly wider, but not very significant. RE0 also gains in clarity. But, my observation about sound stage depth, bass, treble (even with amp-ed RE0), "air" - all remain the same. Sorry! would like to do more comparisons, but don't have the time right now. Will start a new thread (after a few weeks) comparing DBA-02, DDM, PFE (amped + unamped), RE0 (amped + unamped).
 
Hello Santosh ,

Well first this is a Very good Review Keeping in mind what you like "the music etc" .The DBA-02 Is Definately Under Import By Us Now And We Would Launch It Formally In Te After Some Time .Infact Not Only this But The Entire Fischer audio Products Would Be Here .Some Are In Transit And Some Are Being Processed .Although i am selling RE0 i am not obsessed with that .Infact i do not even use it for my daily music use .I like fun IEM more like the M2 ,The NE-6 etc Etc .I woudl like to understand the hiss .Might be the hiss was from the source you connected it to .Might be this is the only iem what could decode that hiss while the others failed ,Might be .......?????
 
I've tried T3 mostly with two IEMs - RE0 and PFE, because they are the ones which do better with amplification. The hiss with DBA-02 is very slight, but audible. However, it is easily driven and definitely does not need amplification. So chances of somebody using an amp to drive them are far lesser. But, I thought this fact, however irrelevant, is interesting enough to be mentioned.

As for source of hiss, I'd do some switching / swapping and update this post later.
 
@Amarbir Looking forward to you consigment of Fischer audio stuff. Might be interested in one or two of the products. I suppose, you are getting headphones too.
@Santosh comparison of RE0 unamped is more useful to me as I currently don't intend to carry around a portable amp around. And amped RE0 might not be VFM compared to DBA-02 unless you already own one.
 
In fact, RE0 @ $80 + iBasso T3 @ $120 is costlier than DBA-02 by $30, which makes DBA-02 more VFM, even if it manages to do a few things better ;)

But, for an IEM like RE0, which responds to amplification, it would be unfair to just do the un-amped comparison, which is why I tried to cover both with and without the amplification parts.
 
Santhosh, is it possible to match volume level of IEMs using your spl meter, or that too will not be accurate? Just curious. :) And yes, covering both amped as well as unamped is better
 
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