Decent computer audio on a budget

Chaos

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Since I moved my main audio setup to a dedicated silent music PC, I needed a cheap audio setup for my main desktop. My budget was as low as possible with the only constraint being that the setup must sound decent. Since I was in no hurry I was looking for deals everywhere. There were many candidates

Altec MX5021: The universal favorite with which one can't go wrong. However since I had one which I donated to my brother :P, I wanted something different.

Klipsch Promedia 2.0: Decent speakers for a desktop. However a history of amp and volume pot failures made me stay away from these.

Audio Engine A2: Probably the perfect desktop speakers these days. Only issue with them is a slight bit of bass bloom which I can't stand.

Active Studio Monitors: Stuff like the Wharfedale Diamond Monitors, Tannoy Reveal 5 etc - Ruled out as most are way too pricey.

DIY: The other option was a self built single fostex driver bookshelf. Suggested by a friend... however too impractical doing all the carpentry crap.

M-Audio BX5: This is something I was really considering until something else happened.

Buy.com suddenly had the Jamo E700 bookshelf on sale at 64.99 each. The price was down from over 150 each. I had a 20$ off coupon on top of that. So I finally grabbed a pair of these for ~125$ shipped. Killer deal I say as even DIY'ing something similar would have costed more. After spending the better part of 6 months, these finally arrived last month.

The speaker consists of a 4" woven fiber glass mid-bass driver and a 1" silk dome tweeter. Quite small at around 10 inches tall and suits the application perfectly.

Getting an amp: I initially thought of driving these with a Class T amp that burnz was selling in the market. However after testing them with my mccormack, I realized that these are quite power hungry. So I needed an amp with a little bit more power.

So begins amp hunting... the new options for a cheapo amp are quite limited - norge or pulz or yamaha. I'm not a big fan of any of these. The other option was looking at the used market. However finding a decent stereo integrated is hard. Found a few NAD and Marantz amps on sale on other forums but none of these actually interested me. A call to my friendly used hifi dealer got me some surprising info. There are quite a few exotic amps selling for peanuts just because they don't come with a remote :rofl:. Mass market brands sold for more just because no one wants an amp without a remote.

The fella had a vintage Sansui, a Cyrus 2 integrated. Tested both and neither seemed in very good condition. I was very dejected and nearly felt like pulling the trigger on a norge. However the very next day i hit paydirt. Someone had a hardly used Musical Fidelity A1 integrated for sale for what appeared to be peanuts. Heard it with both my speakers and my jaw dropped at the sound quality. The amp appeared to be in brilliant condition for something nearly 20 years old with not a scratch anywhere and infact was the A1-X model with higher quality caps, better heatsinks and a larger toroidal transformer than the normal model.

A little history on the A1 - its Musical Fidelity's most iconic and controversial amp. Its a 20 watt pure class A integrated and at 399 pounds 25 years ago, was probably one of the cheapest well known Class A amps ever. The controversy arose over the fact that not all 20 watts were class A. Only the first 10-12 watts are actual class A and it goes into class AB beyond. The sound is absolutely unbelievable. No hint of harshness or glare, a smooth extended top end, extremely firm grip on bass and an almost tube-like creamy midrange. In typical musical fidelity tradition, its not the most transparent amp but it does sound very natural and has a lot of warmth. One has to listen to a Class A amp to know how good one sounds. Plus the drive in this little amp is just unbelievable. I haven't seen this kind of driver excursion even with my 125 watt mccormack.

So there you have it... a very nice sounding desktop audio setup for well under 15 grand that absolutely kills anything else under 50k in musical enjoyment. Here are pics of both





 
Audio Engine A2: Probably the perfect desktop speakers these days. Only issue with them is a slight bit of bass bloom which I can't stand.

One can always tweak that with EQ's.:P

Anyways, top notch stuff as always..Congrats!
 
The Alchemist said:
One can always tweak that with EQ's.:P

Anyways, top notch stuff as always..Congrats!

Unfortunately the A2 has equalization in the amp. Something that is lost is lost forever and however much one tries to fix it without knowing the source, there are limits to it. If you try to reverse it using software, there'll be compression and might make it worse.

@Wingzero: Never heard it but since its a sub-sat system, it can never match a pair of real speakers.
 
I just saw the setup. Congrats, but aren't you getting desk reflections? Speakers designed for a desktop (eg studio monitors) use tricks to reduce desk and console bounce. You're probably getting a lot of '3D' effects from the early reflections off the table surface, and that too, from the tweeter.

Try a few stands to get the speakers up to ear height, or at least use a couple of books to tilit the axis upwards, to reduce te amount of reflected sound.

HTH.
 
Wow... amazing!!!

But I dont understand... you have a music PC and then you have a desktop PC with all this... I guess I need to be "Chaos" to understand why...

Congrats!!!!!
 
sangram said:
I just saw the setup. Congrats, but aren't you getting desk reflections? Speakers designed for a desktop (eg studio monitors) use tricks to reduce desk and console bounce. You're probably getting a lot of '3D' effects from the early reflections off the table surface, and that too, from the tweeter.

Try a few stands to get the speakers up to ear height, or at least use a couple of books to tilit the axis upwards, to reduce te amount of reflected sound.

HTH.

Yup... thats obviously an issue. Stands are actually on order. There's a chap called Murthy who builds stands on order in bangalore. Getting two small stands built for them.
 
good show man...Now I need to come to your place next time I am in Bangalore..

Rahul was absolutely raving over your ushers when I met him last
 
3 words - absolutely frikkin excellent!
You'll enjoy that setup for years to come, the longevity of such amps is well ;)
When you said cheap, audio and for yourself I was like - OK, he's finally lost it now.

Congrats man :)
 
Chaos said:
Since I moved my main audio setup to a dedicated silent music PC, I needed a cheap audio setup for my main desktop. My budget was as low as possible with the only constraint being that the setup must sound decent. Since I was in no hurry I was looking for deals everywhere. There were many candidates

Altec MX5021: The universal favorite with which one can't go wrong. However since I had one which I donated to my brother :P, I wanted something different.

Klipsch Promedia 2.0: Decent speakers for a desktop. However a history of amp and volume pot failures made me stay away from these.

Audio Engine A2: Probably the perfect desktop speakers these days. Only issue with them is a slight bit of bass bloom which I can't stand.

Active Studio Monitors: Stuff like the Wharfedale Diamond Monitors, Tannoy Reveal 5 etc - Ruled out as most are way too pricey.

DIY: The other option was a self built single fostex driver bookshelf. Suggested by a friend... however too impractical doing all the carpentry crap.

M-Audio BX5: This is something I was really considering until something else happened.

Buy.com suddenly had the Jamo E700 bookshelf on sale at 64.99 each. The price was down from over 150 each. I had a 20$ off coupon on top of that. So I finally grabbed a pair of these for ~125$ shipped. Killer deal I say as even DIY'ing something similar would have costed more. After spending the better part of 6 months, these finally arrived last month.
The speaker consists of a 4" woven fiber glass mid-bass driver and a 1" silk dome tweeter. Quite small at around 10 inches tall and suits the application perfectly.

Getting an amp: I initially thought of driving these with a Class T amp that burnz was selling in the market. However after testing them with my mccormack, I realized that these are quite power hungry. So I needed an amp with a little bit more power.

So begins amp hunting... the new options for a cheapo amp are quite limited - norge or pulz or yamaha. I'm not a big fan of any of these. The other option was looking at the used market. However finding a decent stereo integrated is hard. Found a few NAD and Marantz amps on sale on other forums but none of these actually interested me. A call to my friendly used hifi dealer got me some surprising info. There are quite a few exotic amps selling for peanuts just because they don't come with a remote :rofl:. Mass market brands sold for more just because no one wants an amp without a remote.

The fella had a vintage Sansui, a Cyrus 2 integrated. Tested both and neither seemed in very good condition. I was very dejected and nearly felt like pulling the trigger on a norge. However the very next day i hit paydirt. Someone had a hardly used Musical Fidelity A1 integrated for sale for what appeared to be peanuts. Heard it with both my speakers and my jaw dropped at the sound quality. The amp appeared to be in brilliant condition for something nearly 20 years old with not a scratch anywhere and infact was the A1-X model with higher quality caps, better heatsinks and a larger toroidal transformer than the normal model.

A little history on the A1 - its Musical Fidelity's most iconic and controversial amp. Its a 20 watt pure class A integrated and at 399 pounds 25 years ago, was probably one of the cheapest well known Class A amps ever. The controversy arose over the fact that not all 20 watts were class A. Only the first 10-12 watts are actual class A and it goes into class AB beyond. The sound is absolutely unbelievable. No hint of harshness or glare, a smooth extended top end, extremely firm grip on bass and an almost tube-like creamy midrange. In typical musical fidelity tradition, its not the most transparent amp but it does sound very natural and has a lot of warmth. One has to listen to a Class A amp to know how good one sounds. Plus the drive in this little amp is just unbelievable. I haven't seen this kind of driver excursion even with my 125 watt mccormack.

So there you have it... a very nice sounding desktop audio setup for well under 15 grand that absolutely kills anything else under 50k in musical enjoyment. Here are pics of both



IAm dying to get something..like dis for 15K!!
any suggestions chaos-coz ure xpereince is IMMense
it shud be good for ALL purposes,music,movies and gaming..and not some boomy LOGI....
 
Something like this for 15k would be quite difficult:P

The same Jamos cost arnd 15~18k for the pair :) in India, so I guess you get the idea !

As of the amps, I guess Chaos or others can guide you more on that....I am a total non-audiophile :rofl:
 
It's not impossible, but you'll need to hunt like crazy. I got a pair of PSB Alpha minis for 7K, and built a small amp/DAC to go with them for my office laptop. You should be able to scrounge an amp from the used market for 7-8K, if you can't build.

And the BX5 or the AE-5 should be in the same range (around 18K). My vote would go to the latter for home listening, I'm not a fan of using studio monitors for home uses, most people will come away disappointed by the the dry and clinical sound (I like it myself).
 
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