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6pack said:
www.bbc.com

OpenAI says Chinese rivals using its work for their AI apps

ChatGPT maker says it will need extra protection from US government, following emergence of Chinese rival, DeepSeek.
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www.thehindu.com

OpenAI says Chinese firms like Deepseek try to copy U.S. AI tech

OpenAI warns of Chinese companies reverse engineering AI models, sparking tensions over intellectual property protection.
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www.theguardian.com

OpenAI ‘reviewing’ allegations that its AI models were used to make DeepSeek

ChatGPT creator warns Chinese startups are ‘constantly’ using its technology to develop competing products
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OpenAI says it has evidence China’s DeepSeek used its model to train competitor

White House AI tsar David Sacks raises possibility of alleged intellectual property theft
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Why am I not surprised.

Copy + Paste in action

That is what China is famous for
 
Kaching999 said:
At least it's open source.
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Since when did open source tolerate IP theft?

It's open source, the evidence should be plain for all to see. If there is any IP theft.

Whenever this has happened in the past the offending code was removed and substituted with non infringing code.

See, in this country, we do give a damn about such things.

Oh what pray tell are they going to do with Deepseek if the allegations made are true :)
 
blr_p said:
Since when did open source tolerate IP theft?

It's open source, the evidence should be plain for all to see. If there is any IP theft.

Whenever this has happened in the past the offending code was removed and substituted with non infringing code.

See, in this country, we do give a damn about such things.

Oh what pray tell are they going to do with Deepseek if the allegations made are true :)
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Well IP theft would be bad only if Open AI it's didn't basically copy the entire internet without any regard for copyright or IP themselves.
 
Kaching999 said:
Well IP theft would be bad only if Open AI it's didn't basically copy the entire internet without any regard for copyright or IP themselves.
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To make that case it has to be shown harm was caused to the copyright owner.

But if Deepseek copies open AI, then the harm will be more obvious.

So not the same
 
Loop holes will be more embarrassment to ccp than anything ever
 

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blr_p said:
To make that case it has to be shown harm was caused to the copyright owner.

But if Deepseek copies open AI, then the harm will be more obvious.

So not the same
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It is obvious, OpenAI and all the other model creators blatantly scraped copyright material using bots before all the copyright holders knew it has happening and they been trying to license content after the fact to avoid lawsuits as much as possible.

They have been sued by various media houses because it has been easy to recreate the original content, at least with the earlier models. Legally, it will take time to sort out.

It is actually understood that all the Chinese models are using distillation to learn from the existing American models. In a way, there are doing to American AI companies what they did to the media houses, so it is not that different.
 
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blr_p said:
Why am I not surprised.

Copy + Paste in action

That is what China is famous for
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Let me copy + paste my own,

lockhrt999 said:
It's common knowledge.

Believe it or not, the internet is limited. Current crop of AIs have used up all data there was.

How do you train the next gen of AIs? You train them on synthetic data.

Synthetic data: is like you ask ChatGPT to make up questions, answers, and train DeepSeek on that.
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All AIs in the future will be trained off current AI. As simple as that.

How do people train in the real world? Do they start from scratch or build up on top of the knowledge given by teachers and books?

Again, let me repeat, it's common knowledge in the AI/ML community. Yeah, the sun is bright. Everyone knows.

Nobody is asking for their money back. It's the way forward.
 
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blr_p said:
To make that case it has to be shown harm was caused to the copyright owner.

But if Deepseek copies open AI, then the harm will be more obvious.

So not the same
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a ton of people have already covered this in their videos on YouTube about the harm caused by it you can go and look at them but it's not just about the harm caused it is also the fact that they have a shitty privacy policy which also uses the user data to train itself and since it can't be run locally like Deepseek it leaves the uninformed people no other option like it until Deepseek.
 
Kaching999 said:
a ton of people have already covered this in their videos on YouTube about the harm caused by it you can go and look at them
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Why don't you post some sources?

To date nobody has successfully sued openAI
t3chg33k said:
It is actually understood that all the Chinese models are using distillation to learn from the existing American models. In a way, there are doing to American AI companies what they did to the media houses, so it is not that different.
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Not quite. Let's say you review some books that takes time and effort.

Had they taken the effort like you did to do reviews then you can equate them to yourself not otherwise. Why would you?

Now someone else shows up and just parrots out your reviews and claims them as their own.

Of course they can get the job done for a lot less.

Copy + paste in action

The only thing China is the world's leader at doing. That too badly if the arms industry is any indicator :hilarious:
 
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TEUser2K1 said:
Oh, as per today's memo, Man remains legal father of child born out of wife’s adultery: Supreme Court
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Supreme Court Wife Adultery: Man remains legal father of child born out of wife’s adultery | Kochi News - The Times of India

The Supreme Court of India ruled that in cases where a marriage subsists and spouses have access to each other, the husband remains the legal father o
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Isn't that some privilege any Indian man may envy about ! /s
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This is officially the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen
 
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