Monitors Dell LCDs in India....

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Udit said:
they are crap.

12-16ms response time.
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^^Again, I would say...dont judge panels by their advertised response times.

Depending on the type of panel, there can be huge differences in the pixel refresh depending on whether turning from black to white, or black to gray. It can actually be slower to change from black to gray than it is to go from black to white for some panels. That can be a bit counterintuitive.

What this means for us (atleast for me) is that a 25ms IPS LCD panel works about as fast as a 16ms TN based LCD technology for the wide range of black to light gray. Only when a pixel is going from pure black to pure white is the TN actually faster. So in nearly every real-world application, the difference in smearing will be minimal. On the other hand, a PVA or MVA monitor that may be advertised as doing 25ms when going from black to white may very well need 70ms to turn from black to dark gray.

So, while pixel refresh is important, the way it is advertised is about as useful as megahertz for CPUs. Advertised response times’ll help you decide within a panel type only. (i.e. an 8ms TN screen is better than a 12ms TN screen, but a 20ms MVA screen will have significantly worse ghosting than a 25ms IPS panel)

Switch said:
Just called them up and talked to them..... The 2007 is available for 30K after discount... The 1907 Ultra sharp is available for 23K after discount....

They will be mailing me more prices soon... i will post them on TE asap :D...
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^^ I guess its now irrelevant to ask ya if ur gettin' one......aint it :D

So, I'm gonna ask...which one 're u gettin' ?
 
joess said:
^^ I guess its now irrelevant to ask ya if ur gettin' one......aint it :D
So, I'm gonna ask...which one 're u gettin' ?
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I am still spculating... Also i havent received thier mail yet...

Listen up TE... The offer goes off tomorrow as tomorrow is thier last working day Read 28th April 2006... So if you are undecided or still deciding or thinking that you will place the order on 30th... Do it tomorrow :)...
 
Dell's Mail

Hi Mr Nishant,

Thank you for the interest shown in DELL, its range of products, solution and services. Please find attached the Proposal (QUOTATION) as per your requirement for your kind perusal. Request you to let me know the status of your Enquiry & Purchase Decision as soon as possible.

We always take 100% advance to confirm the order.

If payment needs to be done by a Credit Card: -

1) Take a printout of all 5 pages as attached in my email / 3 attachments.

2) Fill up the Authorization letter by hand.

3) Sign on all the 5 pages at the customer signature place.

4) Write your Credit Card No On all pages of the Quote.

5) Scan and send me all these docs back to my email ID.

If payment needs to be done by a DD: -

1) Take a print of the declaration letter and quotation.

2) Sign on all the pages at the customer signature place.

3) Make a DD in favour of “DELL INDIA PVT LTD”.

4) Send me all these originals by courier with my name superscribed on the envelope.

If it’s a company purchase:-

1) Follow the same procedure as above.

2) Just put your company round seal wherever you have signed.

Estimated Delivery schedule is 15 - 20 Working days.

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And they forgot to mail me the prices :P...

Now thats dumb...
 
Switch said:
Dell's Mail

And they forgot to mail me the prices :P...

Now thats dumb...
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:D lol...my guess is you spoke to a call center rep on the fone, who probably had no idea what he (i.e. the sales rep himself) was talkin' about....

could they be ne more ignorant ?
 
Yup.... Seems like that only...

I was looking forward to buy the 2007 :P and was thinking about selling my 17" samsung but now what i am thinking is to buy a 19" ultra sharp as the price difference is quite a bit...

Update: I have almost sold mine 17" Samsung LCD for 12K without the printer... I am also thinking about the 19" analog LCD too as thats dirt cheap for 16500 but dont know how good it will be for gaming... It says 16ms response time and i am pretty much sure it will ghost... Let me google for some info on the same...
 
Switch said:
Yup.... Seems like that only...

I was looking forward to buy the 2007 :P and was thinking about selling my 17" samsung but now what i am thinking is to buy a 19" ultra sharp as the price difference is quite a bit...

Update: I have almost sold mine 17" Samsung LCD for 12K without the printer... I am also thinking about the 19" analog LCD too as thats dirt cheap for 16500 but dont know how good it will be for gaming... It says 16ms response time and i am pretty much sure it will ghost... Let me google for some info on the same...
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the analog (like Chaos mentioned) use TN panels which means bad colours & advertised at 16ms response time would be a bad choice imho.
1907fp on the other had has an 8ms advertised response time on an S-IPS panel...which means good viewing angles with more accurate colours & not to forget a better (advertised) contrast ratio of 700:1...at 23k, it's an awesome deal imo...considerin' a similarly speced viewsonic sells for close to 30k afaik.
 
Eazy said:
I thought this was funny so I am posting it here.

Disclaimer : this has no reflection to my feeling about the DELL LCDs..... :)

See POST number 2 in this thread.... :~)

Samsung or Dell ?

.....ancient Chinese saying ........"Don't buy a Dell, and all will be well".

http://www.devhardware.com/forums/computer-monitors-79/samsung-or-dell-advice-required-79747.html
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Well that might be true for computers but Dell LCDs rock... Whoever was recommending a samsung over a dell has absolute zero grey matter between their ears :P.
 
joess said:
considerin' a similarly speced viewsonic sells for close to 30k afaik.
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no it would cost 27k for better specs than that i.e. VP930b 8ms gray to gray, 1000:1 Contrast Ratio & 250 cd/m2 brightness.

but the Dell 2007 FPW is absolutely rocking.
 
^^LOL S-IPS >>> MVA :P

Dell is S-IPS, Viewsonic is MVA. I'd take S-IPS over MVA any day of the week. Also VP930b is now very hard to find cos it has been replaced by the crappy VP920b which uses a TN panel.
 
Udit said:
VP930b 8ms gray to gray, 1000:1 Contrast Ratio & 250 cd/m2 brightness.
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Relax dude...I'm aware of that. Infact that is why I used the word "similarly" instead of "ditto" or "exactly similar."

Udit said:
no it would cost 27k for better specs than that i.e.
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I was not aware of the price though. thnx 4 lettin' ne know.:hap2:

But still, the 4k price difference does not seem justified to me for the difference in specs it offers. I totally respect ur opinion though.

No offence intended. :)

Chaos said:
^^LOL S-IPS >>> MVA :P

Dell is S-IPS, Viewsonic is MVA. I'd take S-IPS over MVA any day of the week. Also VP930b is now very hard to find cos it has been replaced by the crappy VP920b which uses a TN panel.
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I hope it wudnt be considered as spammin' if I say "ditto" again...:hap2:
 
Dell fever seems to have swepped over, but I'd like to caution everyone looking at the 17" and 19" panels to be careful about the model you're getting. An "UltraSharp" does not necessarily mean its an S-IPS panel.

The recent Dell LCD screens are the 17" 1707FP & 19" 1907FP, please avoid it - they're almost certainly 6-bit TN panels, and are a step down from the better 1905FP & 1705FP panels.

Some references:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=793

http://www.prad.de/en/news/shownews508.html

IMO, only the 20" screens and above alone are worth taking a look at. The lower-end models have better alternatives.
 
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Holy cow! Since when did they start putting TNs in Ultrasharp :S.
Edit.... confirmation.... its a TN :(

Horizontal Viewing Angle
140° typical
Vertical Viewing Angle
130° typical
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An IPS will have something like 178-178

Do not buy the 19"/17" Ultrasharp unless you can make do with a TN panel!
 
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reps to eddy for making this out .. and thx to my mind tht i waited and dindt buy within a single day thx to chaos and reps to for confirming :D.
atleast i wont be sad tht i ran out of cash and lost a ips panel :P
 
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