PC Peripherals Dell U2410 (24") or Dell U2711 (27") or Other

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2711. Or 2712.

There is the IPS panel and the real estate at the higher resolution. If you already use IPS, any TN is disappointing - even the ones with fancy LED lighting.
 
^^ I didn't see any info to confirm possible launch of U2712 in the near future or even its existence at all. Are you sure that something like U2712 is going to come out any time soon?
 
^^The difference between the 2712 and 2311 is massive not just in size but in image quality! The 2311 is super blurry. A better suggestion is a pair of 2410's :).
 
O.T A quick question. Sorry to but in. But if you buy a 42 inch LCD tv will it also do for browsing, word etc? I had a perception that TV monitors are too bright and hence not good for the eyes.
p.s Given a choice of course the Dell 27 inch
 
hunt3r said:
Another suggestion..tho i donno if you'll like it :P

Eyefinity. 3 X U2311H (e-IPS) monitors. About 13k each
Don't really care for Multi-Monitor. I find the bezels in mid of the screen in such a setup very very distracting not to mention the fact that its a PITA to setup the Monitors to display the picture across the screens in a consistent manner without differences in brightness, contrast, color temp etc. Add to that, the fact that such a setup does take up a lot of room (does not even fit on my table).

raj_pol said:
O.T A quick question. Sorry to but in. But if you buy a 42 inch LCD tv will it also do for browsing, word etc? I had a perception that TV monitors are too bright and hence not good for the eyes.

p.s Given a choice of course the Dell 27 inch
Yeah, LCD TV's don't make a good replacement for a Monitor. They are meant to be viewed from a distance. Text quality is no where close to a Monitor. However there are hybrid TV/Monitor sort of LCD's as well. That's why I was asking for LCD TV's that are good for close quarters usage as well.
 
Lord, I think you know the answer to the question already, you would be best off getting the U2711, hits the sweet spot in terms of estate and cost. Once you have enough space, you can always get high end displays at that point.
 
Well, here's news in Russian.

Dell

New Models are, U2212HM, U2312HM and U2412HM, so no update in news for a 27"

All of them use e-IPS (a '-' for U2410's h-IPS), but all of them use LED backlights...
 
It's possible that the next 27 and 30 inch updates are 2 years away. There was 3 year gap between 3008 and 3011, and about 2 years between 2709 and 2711.
 
No new 27 inch model coming . Can tell u , its confirmed . Go for U2711 , great monitor . Have one in the office and loving it .
 
I was googing up on U2711 and came across this

Our experiences with Dell India Customer Care - Home

A quote from the same.

I had another conversation with the Dell India Customer Care. This time I talked to an individual named John Mathew. He pretty much told me something extraordinary. He said that the replacement model offered by Dell is not required to be exactly the same model so I would have to take what they have to offer to me.

Can someone confirm if this is really true? I am asking because I heard something similar from some other source earlier. I understand that if a Model being RAMed is phased out, it would be replaced with a similar sized model of a newer series. But from what this CC Guy told the customer, Dell can give any arbitrary model of their choice as replacement. So for instance If I paid through the nose for a U2410 or U2711 and it is DOA or becomes defective, they can send me any arbitrary cheapo TN Panel as a replacement. While I had no plan to order from Dell directly, I guess I would still have to go through them if I have to do an RMA and I don't like the idea of potentially getting the cheapest TN Panel model as replacement for the costly IPS Displays.
 
The premium Panel warranty should take care of this.

I'm assuming this is for cheaper monitors only.

Also I think it is size and resolution limited. They can't take a 27" monitor and offer a 19" in its place, it will have to be the same or upsize. OTOH if it's a 24" they can slip you a TN-panel model.
 
^^ Yeah, I understand that the thing size is limited, but definitely not resolution limited. But check the link, the model in question is the U2711 itself. First they sent him some 24" display as replacement. When he protested they told him it was a mistake and then sent him a 2707WFP. When he protested again the The CC first tried to tell him that since it is a 27" Panel, it is the same, but when the guy persisted, he was told that that the replacement dell offers need not be the same model and he would have to accept what ever they offer.
 
you can always return the replacement back to dell if they send the wrong model. if they get it wrong 2-3 times, then eventually they will give you a better model perhaps a newer 27" ips or a 30".

same thing has happened to 3 people i know
 
Lord Nemesis said:
I was googing up on U2711 and came across this

Our experiences with Dell India Customer Care - Home

A quote from the same.

Can someone confirm if this is really true? I am asking because I heard something similar from some other source earlier. I understand that if a Model being RAMed is phased out, it would be replaced with a similar sized model of a newer series. But from what this CC Guy told the customer, Dell can give any arbitrary model of their choice as replacement. So for instance If I paid through the nose for a U2410 or U2711 and it is DOA or becomes defective, they can send me any arbitrary cheapo TN Panel as a replacement. While I had no plan to order from Dell directly, I guess I would still have to go through them if I have to do an RMA and I don't like the idea of potentially getting the cheapest TN Panel model as replacement for the costly IPS Displays.
Its the same with viewsonic. i didn't rma my 20inch p-mva model cause the engineer said the model was outdated and i would most probably get the same size tn panel one. its the same with most companies i guess.
 
^^ I can understand that if the model being replaced is phased out. But I cannot digest the fact that a new U2711 was replaced with an old and refurbished 2707WFP and expected the customer to live it.

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Today I went out to have a look at some LCD TV's to just get a feel for them as well. Specifically, I checked out the LG 32LE5500, LG 42LE5300 and the LG 42LE5500 which seemed to be standing out from the plethora of Samsung, Sony and other LCD TVs on display in terms of picture quality and viewing angles, Since these were LG, I asked the guy if they are IPS Panels by any chance and he confirmed that they were (I was half expecting that they wouldn't know what IPS means). I am not entirely sure if this is true since I checked the LG site and the specs on the web site doesn't indicate anything for these models while for others they specifically mentioned IPS, but I am pretty sure these are not TN Panels at any rate. These looked pretty good compared to the rest on the wall, but at anything less than 4~6 feet, these are no match for a high res computer Monitor. Quotes I got for these are 38k, 54k and 57k.
 
^TN panels aren't generally used in TVs, as the off-axis viewing angles become a major factor. Sony and Samsung use *VA variants in their TVs, while LG and Philips and Panasonic (mostly) use IPS panels. Check the contrast leves on prad or digitalversus, Sony and Samsung TVs typically have deeper blacks, due to the inherent issues with IPS panels wrt. black levels.
 
^^ Yeah, been researching that as well, LCD TV's seem to use VA variants or IPS panels only. Guess that explains why viewing angles are not an issue on LCD TV's and also why I find LCD TV's better than TN Panel Monitors.

Anyways guy's, I decided to drop the idea of getting a Monitor for the time being. My 6 year old LG CRT TV has broken down and I need to get a new TV. That was why I started looking at LCD TV's as well. Trying to get both a Monitor and TV would only end up making me compromise on both considering my limited budget of 50k for either or both. As many people have been suggesting the idea of using an LCD TV as a large Monitor, I am going to try just that. I am going to get a nice 32" LCD TV that I will double as both TV and Monitor. If it doesn't work out, I will get a Monitor next month when I have some additional moolah. :P
 
Wow, it was fun reading this thread. And you finally decided on a tv! I would suggest a 42 though if you can afford it. The movie watching experience is really immersive as compared to a 32. But whatever fits the budget mate.

About the whole dell shindig, their customer care has really dropped recently. I had a slight issue with my 2208wfp ultrasharp which has an advance exchange premium panel warranty. When i told the dude that i had a couple of dead pixels, he said that a minimum of 4-5 dead pixels are required to rma. there was a kind of estimation process going on in his head. when i asked him if he doesn't even want to know my monitor model and that it has a zero bright pixel premium warranty, he said he's unaware of any such policy! after about 1/2 an hour on the phone on hold while he 'tried' to get information, i asked to transfer to his supervisor. this dude kinda said the same thing, then said only some models have the premium warranty. i was like, duhh, mine does! finally, he said we can process an rma, but first you have to send a scanned copy of the bill with the premium warranty mentioned on it because he couldn't find my invoice number in his system, and this is the kicker, he wanted a photo of the dead pixel(s) !! i was like, fcuk the rma, i can live with a spot on my screen rather than have to spend another second of my life dealing with these unscrupulous idiots!
 
^^ Immediate needs demand that I get a TV (Listening to TV without a picture for a couple of days is no fun). That's why I am going for it. If it doesn't double up as a Monitor, I would still get another monitor. As for size of TV, its a question of physical constraints than about budget constraints. I can afford to get a mid range 40/42", but sitting with that thing 4 feet away from me is not going to be good. I thought the 37" was the perfect size, but many suggested that 37" models are rare and don't usually have good panels.
 
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