difference between ps3 and gtx 460 gpu

[Audiophi1le]

1.We can play most of the last generation console games on PC using emulators.
2.games on pc look sharper and better(X360 vs my pc-PC version looks better)

If u love games its worth buying PS3+360+Wii

 

[m-jeri]

I cant see the future lol. so gave 10% to chance.

 

[sugat123]

PS3 exclusives will never make it to PC. The reason people buy PS3 is because of these exclusives. When Xbox 360 and PS3 were launched, one reason Xbox outsold PS3 because of its high quality exclusives like Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect.

Remember when PS3 was initially launched ppl called it crap console coz it had no exclusives like Xbox 360. The only exclusives it had were some obscure Japanese titles which didn't have a global audience. PS3 has started to catch up with Xbox 360 in terms of sales very recently now that it has exclusives like God of War 3, Killzone2, Uncharted etc. Like I said, look at the money pumped by Sony to produce and market these titles. God of War 3 and Killzone 2 are one of the costliest games ever produced.

As for why some Xbox 360 exclusives find PC release, it is easy to figure that both platforms are basically owned by Microsoft.One major reason casual PC owners upgrade their PC's is to play games. So, Microsoft, Intel, Nvidia, ATI etc have vested interest to keep the platform alive. Sony has no major stake in PC platform.

 

[Lord Nemesis]

so why xbox 360 is so costly 21.5k while you can get a good gpu (gtx 460 or 5850 ) for that

An XBOX 360/PS3 is a compete system with a Multi-core PPC CPU, RAM, GPU, Audio on a single logic board with like connectivity Blue tooth, WiFi, I/O via USB, a optical drive (Blue Ray/DVD) and a 2.5" HDD for storage and a power supply to run it all. How the heck are you comparing that to a just a GPU? Can you run your games with Just a GPU? That said the XBOX 360/PS3 GPU's are antient and at best they have to run 720p resolution. So a single modern GPU can cost more thant he entire console.

headaches of ps3/xbox 360
1) costly games
2) need to be jailbroken
3) costs 21.5k

1. That's correct.
2. No you don't need to jail break to run games on consoles, you can buy legit games and play them as it was intended by the developers.
3. That's a matter of perspective. I have spent over a Lac on my PC and I have an XBOX 360 Elite, PS3 and a PSP for my gaming needs. They cover all my gaming needs and I did not have had need to invest in hardware for nearly 2.5~3 years now.

advantage i think-
1) blue ray support

You can always add a Blue Ray drive to your PC as well.

pc gpu advantage-
1) no jailbreak needed
2) games not costly
3) can be overclocked
4) not costly
5) and if you are xbox 360 gamepad fan than you can also get this for pc also by spending 2000 inr

1. Yes no jail break needed, you can buy legit games and play them as was intended.
2. Very true. Games are not costly. As a recent example Mafia 2 PS3/XBOX 360 - 2499/- Mafia 2 PC - 499/- that is 1/5 the cost of console version.
3. Yes PC can be overclocked
4. That's a matter of perspective. What costly to you may not be costly to me and vice versa. There are people who would like to play their games at true 1080p with 16x AA and AF and a variety of graphics quality settings enabled and ready to spend over a Lac for it and there are also people who make do with 720p or lower resolutions with avg quality settings if it means saving money and there are also people who fall somewhere in between.

disadvantage of gpu
1) i think no disadvantage is there ..
then why so many people want to buy ps3/ xbox why not gpu

A high end GPU costs a bomb (My avg investment on CPU is 25~30k) and I feel the need to change it every year or year and a half. On the other hand after I got all three consoles, I have managed to drag my PC for over 2.5 years now and I don't miss out any great game I wish to play regardless of the platform.

Games are not always universally good (or for that matter not even available) on a single platform. While theoretically the PC is the best platform for running any kind of game, it is not the case in practicality. Let give a few examples of what having multiple systems offer.

1. I played Star Wars - Force unleashed on the PS3 a long time back, The same game was ported to PC quite a while later. I tried the game on PC again hoping for a better graphical experience. While the game had slightly better visuals on the PC, it was not at the level I expected and it was a really crappy port to boot crashing every once in a while. I would much rather play that game on the PS3.

2. Nearly all RTS and FPS games are suited for PC and not worth playing on consoles. Examples are C&C, COD4.

3. Mass Effect 2 was a game that was best played with the XBOX 360 controller as the game is tuned for it. I bought the PC version of the game for better graphics and it was a pain to play with keyboard/mouse. Now I got a pre-owned copy of the game for my XBOX 360.

4. I got GTA4 for PS3 and it was totally unplayable for me due to blurry graphics. The PC version was released much later and I got the PC version as well and it was much better to play.

5. Red Dead Redemption is a great game that is available for XBOX 360 and PS3. The PS3 version is graphically inferior to the XBOX 360 version, so I chose to buy the XBOX 360 version.

6. Ninja Gaiden 2 (Sigma 2 is different) is only available on XBOX 360. Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Killzone 2 are only available on PS3.

 

[brickhouse]

Xbox 360 piracy is even bigger the way games are leaked weeks before the offical release.

many PC games too leak before release

also the fact that console games are more anticipated and so people break it

and even though 360 is heavily pirated,it still gets sales as more than 65% of 360's sales come from UK,US where piracy is not as big as where PC,PS3 gaming exists

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Just curious but what could the remaining 10% titles (you are referring to in this context i.e.) be? Since the term exclusive itself implies privilege. None of the PS3 exclusive titles AFAIK have ported to PC nor will ever be. How can it be termed an exclusive title then?

like timed exclusive but they are rare on PS3

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PS3 exclusives will never make it to PC. The reason people buy PS3 is because of these exclusives. When Xbox 360 and PS3 were launched, one reason Xbox outsold PS3 because of its high quality exclusives like Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect.

the biggest joke

PS3 had a megaton price tag on it which is why it sold less to its own expectations but still was close to the competition

Remember when PS3 was initially launched ppl called it crap console coz it had no exclusives like Xbox 360. The only exclusives it had were some obscure Japanese titles which didn't have a global audience.

it had Resitance,Motorstorm.

PS3 has started to catch up with Xbox 360 in terms of sales very recently now that it has exclusives like God of War 3, Killzone2, Uncharted etc.

actually its because of the recent price cuts last year with the SLIMMER PS3 debut

As for why some Xbox 360 exclusives find PC release, it is easy to figure that both platforms are basically owned by Microsoft.

PC is an open platform.it isn't owned by MS.

 

[sugat123]

^^ so you mean to say that Sony was stupid to pour money in games. Instead they should have gone for price cuts. Price cuts is one the reason but the major reason is the exclusives. You say it had Motorstorm and Resistance, Motorstorm has average score and even though Resistance has good score it didnt generate enough interest, they are not in league of Halo and GeOW. Ask yourself, if PS3 didnt had those exclusives would you have bought PS3. Nobody want's a fancy piece of costly hardware which basically does the same thing what a PC at lesser price can do.

95% of PCs have Microsoft OS and you dont say it doesn't own it. I dont know who you are joking.

 

[Lord Nemesis]

like timed exclusive but they are rare on PS3

I don't know of any timed exclusives for PS3. They do exist on 360, but PS3 titles for the most part are either multi-platform or fully exclusive to the platform.

the biggest joke

PS3 had a megaton price tag on it which is why it sold less to its own expectations but still was close to the competition

People do buy consoles because of the exclusives, but the reason PS3 didn't sell as well has 360 was because of a multitude of reasons. XBOX 360 already had a years lead and it had a decent game library. PS3 had a high price tag for the console and the couple of games that were available were also pricey. It wasn't anywhere close to the competition till a few quality exclusives came in.

it had Resitance,Motorstorm.

People don't spend 40k on a console just play a couple of games that cost 3.6k each.

actually its because of the recent price cuts last year with the SLIMMER PS3 debut

Actually its because of the increasing game library, quality exclusives and consistent decrease in price of console as well as the titles over a period of time. The introduction of slim model and subsequent price cuts is just one more reason. PS3 has gotten cheaper than comparable XBOX 360 even before the slim model released.

PC is an open platform.it isn't owned by MS.

I think its appropriate to say that game developers target the Windows Platform rather than the PC. Very few developers support OS other than Windows and MS does own Windows. As for why 360 exclusives find PC release, its not because MS owns Windows, but because MS asks developers to keep the title exclusive to 360 for a while. XBOX 360 development is very close to PC development. So a developer can just as easily target either platform and release at the same time. MS employs various strategies including paying them to keep titles 360 exclusive.

 

[Gannu]

like timed exclusive but they are rare on PS3

There are none AFAIK.

 

[brickhouse]

^^ so you mean to say that Sony was stupid to pour money in games. Instead they should have gone for price cuts. Price cuts is one the reason but the major reason is the exclusives. You say it had Motorstorm and Resistance, Motorstorm has average score and even though Resistance has good score it didnt generate enough interest, they are not in league of Halo and GeOW. Ask yourself, if PS3 didnt had those exclusives would you have bought PS3. Nobody want's a fancy piece of costly hardware which basically does the same thing what a PC at lesser price can do.

95% of PCs have Microsoft OS and you dont say it doesn't own it. I dont know who you are joking.

I NEVER SAID SONY was stupid or wrong to pour money into games but as they wanted to push blu-ray and HD-DVD being cheaper,they had to release PS3 earlier than they planned and that resulted in a huge price

exclusives is nowhere near the reason for the PS3 selling low at first.if you think that then you are completely wrong.

yes i would have bought the PS3 as i would know that my old loved franchises will be there

i am not saying that games and exclusives don't matter but they only;y come when there is a console userbase,and cause PS3 had such a high price it was unaffordable price so it never got the userbase

95% of PC,s could have Wondows but there is no way MS owns the platform.you don't need to pay licensene fee like on PS3,360,Wii.know what owning a platform is before you question others

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There are none AFAIK.

i can't think of many either

oh there's FF13 Japan timed exclusivity.

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I don't know of any timed exclusives for PS3. They do exist on 360, but PS3 titles for the most part are either multi-platform or fully exclusive to the platform.

FF13 Japan timed exclusive

i know there aren't many but i was just giving an example

People do buy consoles because of the exclusives, but the reason PS3 didn't sell as well has 360 was because of a multitude of reasons. XBOX 360 already had a years lead and it had a decent game library. PS3 had a high price tag for the console and the couple of games that were available were also pricey. It wasn't anywhere close to the competition till a few quality exclusives came in.

sure they buy console for exclusives games

it was very near 360 even without them

the main reason is that the megaton price made it unaffordable for people to buy it and hence low userbase and so developers won't make exclusive games when there aren't enough people to buy the games

People don't spend 40k on a console just play a couple of games that cost 3.6k each.

it wasn't 40k in other areas and don't even compare the indian price and game affordability with other countries.

and people buy $60 games outside,just because in india it is felt to be humongous price doesn't mean its a big thing overall.you try to make it seem so bad

Actually its because of the increasing game library, quality exclusives and consistent decrease in price of console as well as the titles over a period of time. The introduction of slim model and subsequent price cuts is just one more reason. PS3 has gotten cheaper than comparable XBOX 360 even before the slim model released.

no it wasn't

the price cut was announced at gamescom last year and the old models were already sold out at many places by then to make place for slim release.

the games matter but the startup cost was high so people get disappointed

I think its appropriate to say that game developers target the Windows Platform rather than the PC. Very few developers support OS other than Windows and MS does own Windows.

MS owns windows but it doesn't own license or rule what is developed for it like on Consoles

As for why 360 exclusives find PC release, its not because MS owns Windows, but because MS asks developers to keep the title exclusive to 360 for a while. XBOX 360 development is very close to PC development.

agree

So a developer can just as easily target either platform and release at the same time. MS employs various strategies including paying them to keep titles 360 exclusive.

agree

 

[jojothedragon]

This topic sucks, There is no way a gpu can be compared to a full console. I would've considered otherwise of they OP was comparing the ps3's gpu with a gt 460 but that too still would've sucked.

 

[dark.lord.rules]

its like a D**K vs P***Y .... :rofl: :lame:

 

[sugat123]

"brickhouse : exclusives is nowhere near the reason for the PS3 selling low at first.if you think that then you are completely wrong."

High price tag coupled with no good exclusives was the reason why ps3 didn't sell at first. If it had good exclusives, it would have sold good despite the price. Remember Xbox players pay to play online while PS3 players don't. And this is iterated by numerous gaming sites. You are concentrating on price tag too much.
If you still insist, you are right, then I dont have anything to argue.

 

[hbksabhi]

Totally Depends what u need !

Console is cheap when compared to gpu as ...........CONSOLE is whole package whereas for pc u need a GOOD PROC+mobo+ ram etc ( much more expensive )

Graphics on PC will always be more sharp than console , 100 %

MAIN TROUBLE is EXCLUSIVE titles and XBOX LIVE or say PSN !

if u dont play those titles then PC will be good for u ............

 

[madnav]

Console: Games are optimized for limited set of hardware. Thus the max is brought out of the hardware here.

PC: Games are not optimized for limited hardware set, compatibility has to be maintained over a plethora of hardware combinations..and more compatibility = less optimization efficiency as it it with PC gaming.

So it all comes down to

Console: You pay for Better Optimized Games.

PC Gaming: You pay for Better Hardware.

Im assuming if the max is brought out of a lower end hardware then it may also be read as higher power efficiency compared to similarly performing PC hardware.

SO if it is just about gaming then Console would make a better option while PC shall not be considered just as a gaming machine.

PS: Im not aware of current console gaming scene and how they fair with PC gaming in performance if talking about same title over different platforms. So my perspective may be vague.

 

[brickhouse]

"brickhouse : exclusives is nowhere near the reason for the PS3 selling low at first.if you think that then you are completely wrong."

High price tag coupled with no good exclusives was the reason why ps3 didn't sell at first. If it had good exclusives, it would have sold good despite the price. Remember Xbox players pay to play online while PS3 players don't. And this is iterated by numerous gaming sites. You are concentrating on price tag too much.

If you still insist, you are right, then I dont have anything to argue.

not it won't have

you have got to be delusional to be thinking that

exclusives make a difference but not to an extent that people will go spend huge amount of their income on it

Xbox players pay online cause it has a low startup price and when people normally go into a shop they don't think about future but how they can experience it now.and PS3's startup cost was way high.the comparison is a joke

US is the mainland where 360 sells and people want cheap things there.

numeous gaming sites mentioning it won't do shit as the casuals don't visit gaming sites,even if the hardcores buy the expensive PS3,the casuals won't till its not cheap

PS3 sales didn't just jump up last years after price cut because of exlcusives,there weren't many out exlcusives on PS3 last year after PS3 price cut but still it got sold out.and don't go on saying UC2 made sales as UC2 itself only sold 2.5m and PS3 sold 6m last years after price cut

i am not trying to impose anything on you but what you are saying is not true