Do Indian women have a deludedly high opinion of themselves? Or lack of exposure?

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sid_donnydarko said:
Awwww crap :facepalm: I should've mentioned this in the main post!

When we were talking over a call, i was surprised she asked me out even after i hinted that i was the geeky sort. Hell! My FB profile screams geekiness from every angle!

Please read my MP again. I was not bashing her in any way.

Compared to the previous 2 women she was the nicer one. I couldn't understand why she asked me out in the first place when she wasn't comfortable around geeks?

I don't have a problem hanging around any woman for that matter too.

I was being the nice guy the whole bloody time! I kept her occupied when she told me she was depressed! And i didn't mind her calling me at odd hours either!! :(
Sorry but couldn't resist:

Ban gaya kuttaa... Dekho ban gaya kuttaaaa :P

Watch Pyaar ka Punchnama. You should get some answers. Hopefully :ashamed:
 
dexBG said:
Thanks or that ..

now understand that its not just that one is geeky or excessively passionate about a certain thing ..

People face a lots of social stigma ..

Fat people .. dark skinned people .. unattractive people .. different socio-economic background ..for both men and women

Society in general will strike you down for lot many things .. and try to 'look down' upon them.

And this geeky lifestyle that you repeatedly mention .. you are stereotyping yourself ..

Unless you believe that some are born/made superior to others then drop this notion.

Labeling people from their behavior-interests is thing you're against .. so stop doing it to yourself.

Like Xavier would put it "Geek and proud"!!! :D

I like .. wait .. absolutely love being a geek :) I was not trying to stereotype myself unlike the way you see things from where you stand :)

All i want to know is if Indian women have a tendency to be one-track in their selection of men.

All i want to know is if i'm the one at fault because i'm too "nice"

(refer to my response)

lol ...

Dude wasnt that just one girl you know... y do u hv to bring up this in a forum?? I guess its not like proccys or mobos n i also think if at all you can generalize something, 'women behaviour' is best among the options .... you are sure all **** up in your mind,, you seem to know what every girl think about you.. wonder hw many would hv told that to ur face...nyways its very funny to read what u wrote(No offence meant..just being honest)...
 
Arent you concluding every girl on the planet by this single girl you met?

Opinions matter person to person. You felt that this girl made you feel geek then lets not hope the next girl might call you a nerd. :P

I guess you are trying to be more judgmental rather than her. Just relax and enjoy your dates. You never know even geeks do get nice girls. ;)

Still you got lot of life out there....so chill out & have fun rather than being a judge on either parts & spoil the party. :cool2:
 
Again, i don't mind being called a geek. Its just that there are some who have a tendency to be extremely nasty in their opinions.

I'm raising a question which i feel is valid. I'm asking everyone on this thread if my observation is incorrect or not?
 
sid_donnydarko said:
I couldn't understand why she asked me out in the first place when she wasn't comfortable around geeks?

She probably was very comfortable around you but ur claims of being a GEEK might have made her really uncomfortable

When a guy proclaims that he is a geek, the first thing that comes to mind is that he is everything else besides a geek... So small advice never tell a girl that u are a geek and just be urself. There is a chance that she might get impressed with ur passion for "the things that make u a geek" and might fall for you.

Dude just enjoy the company and have fun... Do not judge people cause no one like to be judged...
 
Let me explain the whole situation in detail -

When i decide to meet up with someone after a long (17 year) gap, i tell myself to expect the unexpected and try to take 1st impressions at face value.

In the situation i was in, i let her know i was unhappy after she smirked. In self-defence probably? :) Wouldn't any other human being do the same!

Now because i've had a coupla bad experiences prior to this, its only human that i become disgruntled. But atleast i'm not being JUDGEMENTAL!

And that's why i've put up this thread to ask for everyones opinion about my observation :)
 
I blame that book (do you people call it a book here?) that starts with T .

Girls are disillusioned by the geek and jocks all over the world. A guy having money, car(s), house(s), a good body or any of these, becomes an instant hit with women and while I do feel bad for you if you don't have either of the above (I don't have any of those either :rofl:); don't feel too bad as there are a lot of girls in India some who don't follow those insanely idiotic notions.
 
there are indian men and foreign women who will judge you the same way, so its not an indian women thing.
 
lida said:
She probably was very comfortable around you but ur claims of being a GEEK might have made her really uncomfortable

When a guy proclaims that he is a geek, the first thing that comes to mind is that he is everything else besides a geek... So small advice never tell a girl that u are a geek and just be urself. There is a chance that she might get impressed with ur passion for "the things that make u a geek" and might fall for you.

Dude just enjoy the company and have fun... Do not judge people cause no one like to be judged...
I hinted that i was a geek in a subtle manner on a number of calls. I did not rub it into her face.

I'm not looking to get into her pants! And neither did we go out on a date! :)

We were simply two friends meeting up after a really long gap! :)

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RD274 said:
I blame that book (do you people call it a book here?) that starts with T .

Girls are disillusioned by the geek and jocks all over the world. A guy having money, car(s), house(s), a good body or any of these, becomes an instant hit with women and while I do feel bad for you if you don't have either of the above (I don't have any of those either :rofl:); don't feel too bad as there are a lot of girls in India some who don't follow those insanely idiotic notions.

Which book are you talking about?
greenhorn said:
there are indian men and foreign women who will judge you the same way, so its not an indian women thing.

Thanks for your input dude :)
From now on i'm sticking to older women! ;)
 
sid_donnydarko said:
I hinted that i was a geek in a subtle manner on a number of calls. I did not rub it into her face.
I'm not looking to get into her pants! And neither did we go out on a date! :)

We were simply two friends meeting up after a really long gap! :)


What ever I said was not with the notion that you wanted to get into her pants. It was a general stament man... No offence here...

If you guys are just friends then why the big deal of starting a survey on a forum. Just take it like a friend of yours gave a look and just let it be man...
 
DISCLAIMER

I don't know about girls/women the way I know about jeans and suit (although I lag there compared to most apparel forum experts even there :( ). Yet, I would like to add a possibility of what might have happened.

In case she is single, she might have thought that there might be a possibility of a relationship with you, in case she isn't married, that is. She might even be thinking on the lines of marriage because 26 is a marriageable age at least in India.

However, when she found out that even at 26 you didn't own a car then she thought that you weren't as well settled as she thought you were and therefore she was disappointed/slightly taken aback. Because it is a fact, when it comes to marriage, although all women might not go for the richest guy they can, they definitely want somebody who is comfortably well settled and well off. They expect you to be able to soon afford a house if you aren't paying your EMI already or haven't inherited one and can afford another one if required. They need you to be able to own at least two cars, one for you, one for her, and later down one for each of your children of course. So basically somebody who earns enough to run a family even if she doesn't contribute or doesn't contribute as much if nothing at all.

So basically, when it comes to marriage or a relationship in your mid/late 20s, your position in society and your profession and income does play a MAJOR role to 95-98%+ of the women out there. You need not necessarily be the richest, but you should have a comfortable standard of living and that does means:

1-2 cars

Outing of 2-5k each at least once or twice a week

At least 1-2 vacations a year and sometimes abroad

Enough to settle your kids education in the long run

etc

And whether or not this will happen, they usually want to see in the 25-30 age when they plan to get married. So if you are from IIT/AIIMS but just earn 30-40k a month, they know when the time comes, you would earn 10-20 times as much. But otherwise, they know that would never happen. And so they forget about it.

I know that I am being hard, but I am just trying to tell you the truth. Maybe she really liked you and wanted a steady relationship, but wasn't prepared to have it with someone who was one step down, rather than at the same level or one step up. I don't mean to be harsh, but somebody has got to tell you what could have been the real reason. Sorry mate, but I guess you have the right to know the answer to your question. I really don't want you to feel sad, but to work hard for the future.

On a friendly note, why else do people think I give so much importance to money :D :P LOL

Anyway, I hope my post does clarify some things which you could perhaps bring up with other women or her later or soon in life and see what happens! :)
 
lida said:
What ever I said was not with the notion that you wanted to get into her pants. It was a general stament man... No offence here...

If you guys are just friends then why the big deal of starting a survey on a forum. Just take it like a friend of yours gave a look and just let it be man...
I'm chill bro! I also completely understand if you think i'm making a big deal out of nothing. But from where i stand, i find it upsetting because of my prior bad experiences. And since i'm a geek i was hoping to find out if the majority on TE have found themselves in similar situations with other women.

What is really surprising though, is the number of TE members who automatically conclude that i'm looking to score when i've clearly mentioned that i'm more interested in figuring out the general-indian-women-mindset! :S
 
@m-jeri

Your post didn't contribute anything.

Everybody knows that women go for well settled guys. That is a fact dude.
 
rite said:
DISCLAIMER

I don't know about girls/women the way I know about jeans and suit (although I lag there compared to most apparel forum experts even there :( ). Yet, I would like to add a possibility of what might have happened.

In case she is single, she might have thought that there might be a possibility of a relationship with you, in case she isn't married, that is. She might even be thinking on the lines of marriage because 26 is a marriageable age at least in India.

However, when she found out that even at 26 you didn't own a car then she thought that you weren't as well settled as she thought you were and therefore she was disappointed/slightly taken aback. Because it is a fact, when it comes to marriage, although all women might not go for the richest guy they can, they definitely want somebody who is comfortably well settled and well off. They expect you to be able to soon afford a house if you aren't paying your EMI already or haven't inherited one and can afford another one if required. They need you to be able to own at least two cars, one for you, one for her, and later down one for each of your children of course. So basically somebody who earns enough to run a family even if she doesn't contribute or doesn't contribute as much if nothing at all.

So basically, when it comes to marriage or a relationship in your mid/late 20s, your position in society and your profession and income does play a MAJOR role to 95-98%+ of the women out there. You need not necessarily be the richest, but you should have a comfortable standard of living and that does means:

1-2 cars

Outing of 2-5k each at least once or twice a week

At least 1-2 vacations a year and sometimes abroad

Enough to settle your kids education in the long run

etc

And whether or not this will happen, they usually want to see in the 25-30 age when they plan to get married. So if you are from IIT/AIIMS but just earn 30-40k a month, they know when the time comes, you would earn 10-20 times as much. But otherwise, they know that would never happen. And so they forget about it.

I know that I am being hard, but I am just trying to tell you the truth. Maybe she really liked you and wanted a steady relationship, but wasn't prepared to have it with someone who was one step down, rather than at the same level or one step up. I don't mean to be harsh, but somebody has got to tell you what could have been the real reason. Sorry mate, but I guess you have the right to know the answer to your question. I really don't want you to feel sad, but to work hard for the future.

On a friendly note, why else do people think I give so much importance to money :D :P LOL

Anyway, I hope my post does clarify some things which you could perhaps bring up with other women or her later or soon in life and see what happens! :)
I guess you're right! She did mention on a number of occassions that she wanted to get married soon and about my looks. But i doubt if she took an interest in me because i told her i plan on doing my higher studies and also that i was more of the fling guy then someone who seeks steady relationships. :)
 
You need to work on your education and then on your career and then make it just right :) That would be the best option I guess. And higher studies can help a great deal, especially in the long run career and for steady relationships/marriage ;)
 
rite said:
You need to work on your education and then on your career and then make it just right :) That would be the best option I guess. And higher studies can help a great deal, especially in the long run career and for steady relationships/marriage ;)
Yup...

As sick as it sounds, everything and everyone carries a price-tag! :rofl:
 
boogeyman said:
Sorry but couldn't resist:

Watch Pyaar ka Punchnama. You should get some answers. Hopefully :ashamed:
I knew what was going on. Plus we had a lot of common friends; so i couldn't afford to disappoint her and risk having her b**ch about me to the rest of my friends.
 
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