Do Indian women have a deludedly high opinion of themselves? Or lack of exposure?

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MrCool said:
lol ...

Dude wasnt that just one girl you know... y do u hv to bring up this in a forum?? I guess its not like proccys or mobos n i also think if at all you can generalize something
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If that were the case then I'm sure there would be guys trying to unlock the two boobs to four.
 
A lot of people are judgemental. Everyone has his/her own criteria for judging. I've noticed that the first time you meet such a person, he/she tries to place you on a ladder (social, economic, fashion, intelligence, athletics, technology, take your pick). They want to associate themselves with someone "higher" up their choice of ladder than themselves. There is nothing you can do to change them. Don't waste your time over it.
 
whatsinaname said:
A lot of people are judgemental. Everyone has his/her own criteria for judging. I've noticed that the first time you meet such a person, he/she tries to place you on a ladder (social, economic, fashion, intelligence, athletics, technology, take your pick). They want to associate themselves with someone "higher" up their choice of ladder than themselves. There is nothing you can do to change them. Don't waste your time over it.
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This much i've noticed. But what i cannot understand is the extent to which some people would go to, in order to thrash and further demean the underdogs. Its just not right! :no:
 
@donnydarko,give it a break dude!pm rite,he is one of the very few settled member here,he is your only hope!

BTW,rite,I am from AIIMS and used to earn even less than 20k only two years ago(did not even heard of diesel jeans) but always had a lot of chicks(married now:()
 
red dragon said:
@donnydarko,give it a break dude!pm rite,he is one of the very few settled member here,he is your only hope!

BTW,rite,I am from AIIMS and used to earn even less than 20k only two years ago(did not even heard of diesel jeans) but always had a lot of chicks(married now:()
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Did you read through the entire thread? :S
 
Being a geek has nothing to do with women finding you less manly. Whether a women finds a man attractive and manly enough for her is rather very subjective and basically boils down to one's personality and attitude. You can be Macho and a geek at the same time, believe me. If anything, being a geek is actually a quality which makes you stand apart from other dimwits. Geeks have been projected in the media as sophisticated but lonely, ugly men who are desperate for some attention of the fairer sex when the truth is actually quite the opposite of it. From your post I have gathered that you have low self esteem issues. You are looking for acceptance when you clearly have a low opinion of yourself. Did it ever occur to you that maybe your "geekiness" is what attracted her towards you in the first place and that maybe it didn't go well enough because she sensed lack of confidence and that turned her off. Believe me women are very good at these things, they can guess what state of mind you are in just by reading your body language.

I would like to quote "40 Year Old Virgin here" : You know what your problem is? You're putting the pus*y on a pedestal.
 
sid_donnydarko said:
I guess you're right! She did mention on a number of occassions that she wanted to get married soon and about my looks. But i doubt if she took an interest in me because i told her i plan on doing my higher studies and also that i was more of the fling guy then someone who seeks steady relationships. :)
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sid_donnydarko said:
This much i've noticed. But what i cannot understand is the extent to which some people would go to, in order to thrash and further demean the underdogs. Its just not right! :no:
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The day you rise above this all, you will become immortal. :)

See, you were just passed through a societal filter. It is not about a lady asking probing questions and smirking or a man doing it. All do it. India is still in the latent ideology driven by metrics which Whatsinaname mentioned. True, it feels demeaning and daunting when people make such faces -- but learn to take it with a pinch of salt and give them a wise a$$ answer immediately -- if they smirk or mock you. I am sure you can think of those. I stay on my radar alert when questions like this start. It is really easy to catch people before it starts. Last weekend an army officers wife (land owners wife) asked me my "caste", I was seeing houses for rent. I told her on her face. What difference will it make to you. I can pay you on the 1st every month. Her retired Colonel husband started grinning and stared at the floor. I got up on my own will and walked off. Be honest bluntly and people will request you. Past one year I never had a car. Had sold my old car, and due to finances could never get a new one. Tons of people asked me "why no vehicle no". I replied on their faces -- would rather eat and live than travel in my vehicle. Cannot afford it.

Not saying that you should retort back at all, but just tell them the reason OR your reason for NOT answering a query. :) It is quite simple. Be a geek but a meek geek. Break peoples arrogance and pride and uppness of life by down to earth behavior. You will feel better end of the day.

What you friend was doing, was measuring her self vs. you. She seems to be your batch mate and it happens. Even men do it. They just ask the darn salary...! Evaluate the instance (you get like 1.5 split seconds, geeks can do it) and answer back. If you feel women do not have affinity towards you cause of being a "geek", they just do not understand the modern world. Let them go out and look for the Conans' and Hercules'.
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Bluffmaster said:
Being a geek has nothing to do with women finding you less manly. Whether a women finds a man attractive and manly enough for her is rather very subjective and basically boils down to one's personality and attitude. You can be Macho and a geek at the same time, believe me. If anything, being a geek is actually a quality which makes you stand apart from other dimwits. Geeks have been projected in the media as sophisticated but lonely, ugly men who are desperate for some attention of the fairer sex when the truth is actually quite the opposite of it. From your post I have gathered that you have low self esteem issues. You are looking for acceptance when you clearly have a low opinion of yourself. Did it ever occur to you that maybe your "geekiness" is what attracted her towards you in the first place and that maybe it didn't go well enough because she sensed lack of confidence and that turned her off. Believe me women are very good at these things, they can guess what state of mind you are in just by reading your body language.

I would like to quote "40 Year Old Virgin here" : You know what your problem is? You're putting the pus*y on a pedestal.
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Objectivity - undistorted by emotion or personal bias

Objectivity | Define Objectivity at Dictionary.com

Since you've never spoken to me in person i perfectly understand if you think i have self-esteem issues. I've been told(note lack of self-reference) on many occasions that i carry myself very well and sound like someone who's jumped a few years ahead. But i won't deny that i've had self-esteem issues at one point or another in my life; which have probably contributed in shaping my personality in some way or another. I am old and mature enough to accept that. The qualities that i've brought up also have a down-side, like any double-edged sword. Again when we were chatting, out of sheer respect and fondness for a sweet friend, i did not show any disinterest let alone disapprove of her loud behaviour. I've said this before and i'll say it again. She is the bubbly type and people who know her love her for that. Please read my Main Post again. I did not thrash any woman; due to prior bad experiences i am simply a disgruntled male who's hoping my kind would help in evaluating an observation before becoming judgemental.
 
All I got to say is ...

b**ches ain't nothing but hoes and tricks!

Don't ever put pussy on the pedestal

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rite said:
DISCLAIMER
.....They expect you to be able to soon afford a house if you aren't paying your EMI already or haven't inherited one and can afford another one if required. They need you to be able to own at least two cars, one for you, one for her, and later down one for each of your children of course. So basically somebody who earns enough to run a family even if she doesn't contribute or doesn't contribute as much if nothing at all.

So basically, when it comes to marriage or a relationship in your mid/late 20s, your position in society and your profession and income does play a MAJOR role to 95-98%+ of the women out there. You need not necessarily be the richest, but you should have a comfortable standard of living and that does means:
1-2 cars
Outing of 2-5k each at least once or twice a week
At least 1-2 vacations a year and sometimes abroad
Enough to settle your kids education in the long run
etc
And whether or not this will happen, they usually want to see in the 25-30 age when they plan to get married. So if you are from IIT/AIIMS but just earn 30-40k a month, they know when the time comes, you would earn 10-20 times as much. But otherwise, they know that would never happen. And so they forget about it.

I know that I am being hard, but I am just trying to tell you the truth. Maybe she really liked you and wanted a steady relationship, but wasn't prepared to have it with someone who was one step down, rather than at the same level or one step up. I don't mean to be harsh, but somebody has got to tell you what could have been the real reason. Sorry mate, but I guess you have the right to know the answer to your question. I really don't want you to feel sad, but to work hard for the future.
On a friendly note, why else do people think I give so much importance to money :D :P LOL
Anyway, I hope my post does clarify some things which you could perhaps bring up with other women or her later or soon in life and see what happens! :)
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OMFG , Really? Then I am So Not Getting Married :(

@OP Now That u feel Better after ranting so Much about your (schoolmate too,u said?) date in a public forum..Why don't U give her a Call and be nice?

If I know anything about women,They just want us to be nice and Caring..and not pretentious
So when u called urself a geek,She smirked...coz knew like ggt sir here...u,with all due respect are not a geek
So the Smirk was for u being pretentious..Not for being a non-geek (guess she was totally fine with it)
 
Lol at most of the replies. To those who ask for the thread to be trashed, there are many such threads, and they were awesome fun, leave the threads judging part to the Mods.

Now for the OP:-

1) You came across as a nice but lame guy. Now im not judging you but the only thing that matters in this case is how you came across to her.

2) When you sat listening to her, you lost your ground. Never ever let a woman dominate a conversation.

3) The Geek part. Its not wrong to be a geek. But never ever show off an unbalanced personality.

Women traditionally have very less interest in technology, so stick only to the parts where you can make her go wow and those will be something like "hey check out my iphone" And not something like "OMFG i overclocked my cpu to 4ghz, im so winning that pendrive in the competition." I would judge her if she didnt yawn on your face for that :P

She doesn bother you with her make-up fetish does she? Then why would you want to do that to her with your tech fetish? :P

4)The car part. She smirked eh? Thats cause she had already established her self as superior while you patiently heard her. It was something like "I knew it, loser!". When she asked you about a car, a smart reply was due. And when she smirked, a polite ass kicking was due, you should have brought her ass back down to earth saying , why dont you show me around in your ferrari and then on seeing her car told her that the way you smirked i thought you owned a ferrari, most fat chics i know own a(name of the car). " That would have severely deflated her.

5) The more you kiss her ass the harder she'l trample you.

6) And about complaining to her about that smirk! You might as well have cried over her shoulder! Who does that! Never let them know that it hurts, or that what she said got to you! Should have kicked her in the shins for smirking!

Lastly, when a chic acts smart, give it back to her politely . Let her know she cant walk all over you. Mostly making fun of her can shatter that cock-iness.

And one more thing, if she labels you a geek, call her a bimbo. Nothing beats the living daylights out of them like calling them a bimbo. Once i was talking to my friend about a mobile phone and this chic was there with us and i was speaking for 10 minutes and then she says, "i never you were such a boring geek", i told her " I never knew you were a bimbo who wouldnt understand an intelligent conversation" Ofcourse youg et your point across with out offending/insulting them.

Its ok to be nervous, but never show it!
 
there are lot of girls who wont like you and there are lots of them who will ..... just stay with the ones who will and stop worrying about the ones that wont , everyone has their choices , you like them hot , the hot ones like their guys rich ... of course there are hot ones who like geeks , so yea upto you ,

if you found her smirk bad , when was the last time you smirked at a girl for her choice of living?. ... stop moping and go out with someone else
 
There are girls who are geekier than OP... and then there are some just plain dumb. It all varies from person to person. The best way to impress a girl is to take on a subject she likes and talks about it with some knowledge...like books,Music/Whatever.

Unless one is real damn damn lucky, it is not possible to have many number of common interests. Ultimately it boils down to whether the guy/girl is willing to come down to impress the other. If both are in the same boat, it is blissful.

There cannot be any stereotyping here. Treat it on a case by case basis...
 
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