Don’t wear a condom, wear values to fight Aids: Dr Harsh Vardhan, Health Minister

Lord Nemesis said:
The point is why does the question of morality or faithfulness even come into the picture? AIDS doesn't care about whether you are faithful or not. It is an STD and faithfulness becomes a factor for impact only when one chooses not to use condoms.
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The important point is he never said don't use a condom. The point that matters is if people require condoms are they available or not. So you get the lecture, sit through it and then go collect what you came for in the first place.

Also don't forget that AIDS is not just an STD either. It can also spread through blood in several other ways. Getting a shave at a barber using equipment/ blades used on others is one possible means. Blood transfusions is another. heck people even got just by donating blood when non-disposable equipment was used.
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Barbers stopped reusing blades in the 90s. This is why the shavettes came in. No more straight edge razors. So you always get a new sharp blade that gets disposed off.

blood transfusions are mostly screened nowadays.

truckers going around the country and then returning home is the main vector for std spread in the country.

It's definitely right to say that condom usage is not the only factor for curbing the spread of AIDS, but then wouldn't it be more apt to focus on the important factors than about morality or faithfulness which do not even figure as a factor. It is absurd to focus on morality while suppressing the more important scientific factors.

What's even more absurd is that its coming from somebody with a medical degree. Forget his political affiliations or the fact that he holds a ministry, this is not the kind of logic expected from a doctor.
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they're going after the illegal business. if the govt does not get a cut out of a transaction or is unable to impose one then they try to discourage it.
 
Just to add that condoms does not protect from all STDs. For eg., Herpes, etc.

These days, it is like paste out of the tube scenario, now using the paste is the only option left with. So, values talk, etc. is irrelevant.
 
Guys before outraging that a Sanghi government is at the centre and insisting you do Indian culture stuff and how that is infringing on your freedom and all, please Google "ABC of AIDS prevention".

Pay special attention to what 'A' and 'B' stand for. And no the movement was not started by Sanghis.
 
biozen said:
Guys before outraging that a Sanghi government is at the centre and insisting you do Indian culture stuff and how that is infringing on your freedom and all, please Google "ABC of AIDS prevention".

Pay special attention to what 'A' and 'B' stand for. And no the movement was not started by Sanghis.
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Hope you're not propagating the message of Vatican evangelists!
 
biozen said:
Guys before outraging that a Sanghi government is at the centre and insisting you do Indian culture stuff and how that is infringing on your freedom and all, please Google "ABC of AIDS prevention".

Pay special attention to what 'A' and 'B' stand for. And no the movement was not started by Sanghis.
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1. Where does Indian culture fit into the lot here. Indian culture and traditions has little to do with morals going for it and it has some of the most disgusting practices around. I think the discussion was about whether any kind of text book (or otherwise) morality helps prevents disease. Bottom-line is that it doesn't. If you are talking about coincidental prevention, there are number of other things that can do that just as well.

2. Why does it matter who started the campaign. Bottom line is that its unscientific. If you go to a doctor to get your kids vaccinated and he tells you that its not necessary as long as the kids abide by morals and are devout, god will not punish them with any ailment ,What would you say about that doctor?
 
eternoMind said:
The debate is diverting.

The key thing is to use all you have at your disposal to fight this. For the rational among us, me included, "morality/chastity/abstinence" do not make sense but what about people on the ground/risk groups. They understand the aforementioned subjects much better than pure rationality. So what would you have,

1) Communicate in a language that they do not understand/willfully ignore?
2) Approach the subject in a manner that they do understand, which if not ideal, is definitely a useful start.

So for a risk group like migrant male workers, why isn't it good that faithfulness/abstinence is also talked about in addition to contraception!
Even if one of those works, the job is done.
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Point is they have a certain mentality, the intension is morals and culture and other bullshit. That the particular advice can also be justified by some other logic is a totally different thing.

Only way people will stop using condoms is if he sticks his face on them. Even then for the lack of an erection and not intension.
 
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