Douchebag Mittal asks Zuckerberg to do philantropy if he wants Free Internet [Mittal should do now!]

[swatkats]

Taking on social networking giant Facebook's ambitious 'free internet' plans, telecom major Bharti Airtel chief Sunil Mittal has said the companies should do 'philanthropy' if they stop charging for mobile internet.
Facebook has launched an 'internet.org' initiative under which users can access internet free of charge for select websites if they come through a partner telecom operator.

Mr Mittal, who met Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg here at the Mobile World Congress, said that the social networking major is right in its thinking and that such an initiative would expand the market, but telecom operators also need to get their revenues and charge for the services.

"If you are going to make the data free, then let's do completely philanthropic projects. Government must make spectrum free, there should be free network, but it is not happening," the billionaire industrialist said, while adding that telecom companies were as such not making large money.

http://profit.ndtv.com/budget/want-to-free-internet-do-philanthropy-mittal-to-zuckerberg-744991

Dear Mittal, We know you are an as****le widely famous in India, If the operators like Rcom are providing free access to few sites which they might be benefited in some or the other way. What is your Problem.
You are not an God nor an Dictator. Internet.org is a sane cause, We know you are loser who dumps profits from India in Africa and when make losses you come back here, If you feel Internet.org is simply not viable STFU and mind your own business. Fakir Chand now beg in front of Jio.

 

[sriharsha]

^^ Very well said. Failtel... Someone should make this brand real and laugh (like Nelson from The Simpson's) at the doorsteps of mittal.

Other day, we received a call from Failtel... "Sir, We have an exciting broadband offer just for you! With just Rs. 550 +Tax Now you get "unlimited" 3GB of data at 2 mbps and then 256 kbps. Are you interested sir?"

Sure it is exciting offer! isn't it friends?

 

[swatkats]

^ 256Kbps is a broadband? I thought airtel upgraded all to 512kbps minimum.

 

[drkrack]

Fartel launched 4g services in Hyderabad , on 2300mhz band ; only three phones support it though. Freely advising everyone one that your phone doesn't support 4G, so change to compatible ones like Xiomi Note, Yu etc... dumping your Samsung Note4 , S5, M8, BlackBerry Passport and iPhones

Hahaha... Joke of the year !!!

 

[sriharsha]

Swatkats... Failtel claims many things. But on real ground they are different!. In mysuru it has worst service!

 

[booo]

Failtel is becoming the comcast of India.

 

[skoka123]

One thing we need to keep in perspective is that internet.org and facebook are no philanthropists. The idea behind this initiative is to lockup the internet ecosystem to the 30 odd websites/portals that internet.org will have a stranglehold on. As it is free most of the first time users will start using internet but their internet is actually intranet/LAN in the sense they get to live in the limited ecosystem of internet.org. Soon you will find that internet is no longer free, Example: You want to start a new service such as ebay then all the internet.org users cannot access it which means you do not have access to that user base. Sure enough internet.org will have its own email, fashion portals, auction sites etc. The beauty of this scheme is that these sites that are part of the internet.org ecosystem will be accessible to the whole world but the internet.org users will remain locked out of the global internet as it was intended to be. Of course, if yo are willing to pay the controllers of internet.org then your website will be whitelisted. I guess it will be like Kim Jong is controlling your internet access.

Microsoft gives away its latest and greatest software to students for free or at throw away prices (in US or via ACM) with the idea of catching them young. Once you are used to MS style of products you are locked into the MS ecosystem. How many of us actually use Linux or Open Office etc? In contrast see how many office applications are available on Android. Do you really have as many choices in the MS desktop ecosystem?

I am not supporting Airtel here. I just want to keep things in perspective.

 

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Airtel used to have a mobile free zone but it does not come up now. Wonder what happened.

 

[swatkats]

The fact of matter is spectrum - there is cost, network there is cost and tariff has gone up by only 3 paise in last three years," he added.

http://profit.ndtv.com/budget/want-to-free-internet-do-philanthropy-mittal-to-zuckerberg-744991

Ladies and Gentlemen. Read this Joke of the Decade above.
Call costs without STV were 50p/min before 3yrs and they are now Charging 120p/min. This fellow needs to join school again.

2G data charges from 2011 - 2015

• 98 - 2Gb
• 98 - 1Gb, 30 days
  
• 98 - 750 Mb, 28 days
• 98 - 650 Mb, 21Days
• 98 - 500Mb, 14 Days

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SMS charges from 2011 - 2015

• 77 - 10k Sms, 30 days
• 77 - 6k Sms, 30 Days
• 92 - 6k Sms, 30 Days
  
• 77 - 3k Sms, 30 Days
• 77 - 850 Sms, 30 Days

Airtel is not doing Philanthropy from last 3yrs and no one is expecting them to do it.

Failtel is becoming the comcast of India.

Failtel is becoming has become the comcast of India.

Corrected that for you.

Airtel used to have a mobile free zone but it does not come up now. Wonder what happened.

May be they realized its not profitable anymore. You know Google doesn't always pay to promote their content.

 

[Crapmypants]

Mittal's views aren't outlandish - just poorly worded.
His points is that if data is going to be free then so should spectrum etc. is just his way of saying 'airtel has bills to pay'.
So while he does have a point, ultimately his whole argument is just a load of bs because even if spectrum/cable laying/land acquisition etc. is all free for airtel, will he offer free internet/phone/dth? no chance.

The fact is, eventually internet.org will have to generate revenue so either they will charge (users or sites being listed) or have ads or something - if you aren't buying a product, then you are the product.
Giving free internet access in this situation doesn't seem so much like a feature as it does a marketing gimmick (like flipkart's predatory pricing strategy when it was new).

"Gone are the days when telecom companies were making large amounts of money"
So airtel was either incapable of facing competition or unable to control it's own costs - either way, poor management. As the above poster stated, go back to school Mittal.

 

[swatkats]

I cannot agree more on the Part that Telecos are crunching under heavy Debts. But that is their problem. They want to keep their Shareholders happy. Fine but
You can hike Calls rates, Hike SMS charges, Charge 3X for the data. but you cannot poke your nose in to everything and whine everytime.
1. Facebook. Google are earning a lot, Share your revenue with us, We are the Gatekeepers. ( Customers pays you and you give access to pass through the route)
2. OTT are causing us losses. We will charge for OTT separately.
3. You cannot provide free Internet like that. We will only Grow, our customers should use only our product.

Airtel should be the most hated brand of the year in India, Just like Comcast and ATT in US.

 

[asingh]

Airtel and Mr. Mittal will do a ton of philanthropy for "free" if they just: Delink two words. FUP and unlimited. We need proper unlimited plans, which even if the maximum throughput speed is throttled after FUP kicks in, is equal to or greater than 1 mbps, at a minimum. 80GB finishes off so quickly. Like first 5-6 days, after the billing cycle resets itself. Why call this arrangement, as unlimited.

 

[suds]

I think we should write Mr.Mittal email to give some reality check (at least i'm going to write one email ) i found his email address on internet help yourself

sunil.mittal@airtel.in
or
sunil.mittal@bharti.in
or
sunil.mittal@bhartiairtel.in

 

[blr_p]

Call costs without STV were 50p/min before 3yrs and they are now Charging 120p/min.

basic tariff charges where i am

local or std mobile - 96p/min
landline 150p/min

can't reduce the landline rate, but the mobile rate can be brought down. trick is you have to match it to your requirement. can be brought down as low as 35p/min A2a and 45p/min airtel to other mobile.

will have to see the effects of TRAI's interconnect reductions.

This fellow needs to join school again.

2G data charges from 2011 - 2015

• 98 - 2Gb
• 98 - 1Gb, 30 days
  
• 98 - 750 Mb, 28 days
• 98 - 650 Mb, 21Days
• 98 - 500Mb, 14 Days

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haha you're lucky, 1GB of 2G is rs.175 for me. i neve bother with 2g, i'd rather take a 1 day expiry of 25mb 3g at Rs.9 or 3 days of 100MB at 25. this is mostly for browsing on the street.

SMS charges from 2011 - 2015

• 77 - 10k Sms, 30 days
• 77 - 6k Sms, 30 Days
• 92 - 6k Sms, 30 Days
  
• 77 - 3k Sms, 30 Days
• 77 - 850 Sms, 30 Days

i dont see any options for more than 850 sms at the price you mentioned.

May be they realized its not profitable anymore. You know Google doesn't always pay to promote their content.

FCC recent voting in favour of net neutrality has screwed things up for ISP's. dont hold your breath for better rates now. regulation wins market loses. things will continue to remain stagnant for the consumer.

You got what you wanted. enjoy it

 

[AMG]

No matter how much you hate it, it is the only provider with good coverage throughout India.

 

[swatkats]

I am sure after reading my insult mail, His office wouldn't even wait for a sec and delete it.
Say, If mittal reads it, he would be ashamed of his life. If my memory serves well, this guy should be in Jail for the 2001 Spectrum Auctions Rigging.

No matter how much you hate it, it is the only provider with good coverage throughout India.

Ever used !dea?

basic tariff charges where i am

local or std mobile - 96p/min
landline 150p/min

here its 2p/sec and most of the places its 1.6p/sec. Depends on the circle.

will have to see the effects of TRAI's interconnect reductions.

Won't matter.

haha you're lucky, 1GB of 2G is rs.175 for me. i neve bother with 2g, i'd rather take a 1 day expiry of 25mb 3g at Rs.9 or 3 days of 100MB at 25. this is mostly for browsing on the street.
i dont see any options for more than 850 sms at the price you mentioned.

Yes, present rate for 1Gb is 175, But i comparing what i am getting over the time at a fixed rate and for my fixed requirement..

 

[AMG]

Ever used !dea?

Used everything.
Airtel, Vodafone, Aircel, Idea, Reliance CDMA, Tata Indicom, BSNL, MTNL. You name it.

And I said pan india coverage.
I have to frequent between Rajasthan, Delhi, Haryana and Punjab.

Where is your beloved idea in Rajasthan?

 

[asingh]

The fact is, eventually internet.org will have to generate revenue so either they will charge (users or sites being listed) or have ads or something - if you aren't buying a product, then you are the product.
Giving free internet access in this situation doesn't seem so much like a feature as it does a marketing gimmick (like flipkart's predatory pricing strategy when it was new).

Will not the model be: Users will subscribe to this service by buying it from the ISP. And they can only operate within the limited domain, and not access the 'external' net. They send/receive mail and basic services. So it is casually another web running is parallel to the one we have today. Users will know what they are signing up for. This is what I think. Like a mobile only with SMS.

 

[blr_p]

here its 2p/sec and most of the places its 1.6p/sec. Depends on the circle.

Yes but you also can use rate cutters to reduce those rates. if your calling minutes stays more or less the same very month you can save. if its all over the place then you can't.

Won't matter.

why ? i don't know how significant it will be but i expect a reduction since these charges were removed. now whether the cost savings is passed on or not remains to be seen.

Yes, present rate for 1Gb is 175, But i comparing what i am getting over the time at a fixed rate and for my fixed requirement..

don't follow. my personal gripe with these data plans is they expire. EVERYBODY's data plan expires. talk time now that is different. it never expires or lets say there are recharges you can pick which do not expire.

 

[AMG]

Dear Mittal, We know you are an as****le widely famous in India, If the operators like Rcom are providing free access to few sites which they might be benefited in some or the other way. What is your Problem.
You are not an God nor an Dictator. Internet.org is a sane cause, We know you are loser who dumps profits from India in Africa and when make losses you come back here, If you feel Internet.org is simply not viable STFU and mind your own business. Fakir Chand now beg in front of Jio.

Next time atleast do bother to read the article before going on ranting about like a butthurt kid.

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Incidentally, Airtel Africa is one such partner for Facebook, while rival Reliance Communications has partnered Facebook in India for this initiative, which is based on assumption that bringing more people to the internet fold by offering them free service initially is good for the industry.

"I told him (Zuckerberg) that you are right that this (internet.org) expands the market. At the end, you must understand that we (telecom operators) need to charge you for something. SMSes have gone more or less, voice is going down and they (Facebook) recognise that," Mr Mittal said in a media interaction here.

"If you are going to make the data free, then let's do completely philanthropic projects. Government must make spectrum free, there should be free network, but it is not happening," the billionaire industrialist said, while adding that telecom companies were as such not making large money.

At the same event here, UK-based telecom giant Vodafone's global CEO Vittorio Colao reportedly said about Facebook's free-of-cost internet plan that "it is almost like Zuckerberg does philanthropy, but with my money." (Now I'm waiting for you to add vodafone to that pointless signature of yours)

"We (telecom operators, social media and over-the-top players) are good for each other but they, regulators and politicians must understand that networks' investment must be on reasonable terms. Gone are the days when telecom companies were making large amounts of money," Mr Mittal said.

"OTT players must understand pains of the mobile industry. Sometimes we are seeing as gatekeeper, bad guys. The fact of matter is spectrum - there is cost, network there is cost and tariff has gone up by only 3 paise in last three years," he added.

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