PC Peripherals Expensive Rig : Suggestions

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The Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R is not available.

1) Any ideas where in Mumbai i might find it? The UD5 SLI is there but i have a ATI card.

2) I will buy 4gb ram instead of 3gb.

3) And what about the Asus p6T. Is that a good mobo?

4) Gigabyte UD5 no good? So from what i have read in all the comments here, what should i finally buy?

5) What should be my final config? I am damn confused.
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1. I have no idea

2. You'll lose a third of the memory bandwidth capacity by opting for dual channel instead of the recommended triple channel. Get 3x2GB 1600 if your wallet permits or stick with 3x1GB 1300/1600.

3. The P6T is a good mobo. However, it supports a maximum of 12GB RAM which might not be an issue right now but will certainly be a problem a couple of years down the line. If you want an ASUS, get the P6T Deluxe instead. It has dual LAN (single on the P6T), supports the full 24GB of RAM, uses the slightly superior Marvell chips for SATA/PATA I/O (inferior JMicron chips on the P6T) and uses a better audio codec (ADI AD2000B vs Realtek ALC1200 on the P6T). I know this because I spent close to 3 weeks trying to decide amongst these mobos.

4. ASUS P6T Deluxe if you have a higher budget or UD3R at a lower budget.

5. See siggy for a good config. Processor and RAM are highly overclocked but rock solid. :) Swap OCZ for Transcend or Kingston if your budget is tight. You have a better graphics card already.
 
the gigabyte ud5 is an excellent board, get that if its available. it should be around 17k, i had recommended the biostar cuz i thought your budget is fixed.
specs and featurewise the ud5 is far better than any of the asus boards, the rampage II extreme included. imho asus x58 boards are not really that impressive which is surprising considering their past record. and the pricing in india is insane! 20k for the p6t dlx is ridiculous and coupled with the 'awesome' rashi customer care really makes buying an highend asus board risky.
if you dont plan to oc much then get the gigabyte ud5.
if you do want to oc then get the evga x58 locally (22.5k)
 
The IT Wares have the UD5 listed in their site @ 17,650. Drop a PM to Rahul and find out. Seems to be in the same league as that of the X58-Extreme minus the fancy detachable heatsink.
 
*****get the biostar TPOWER best o.c mobo and its really aweosme.. check the review too and price wise its VFM 14200.. and get the OCZ PLATINUM 6 GB DDR3 1600 MHZ from kmd .. i bought this combo itself and memory costed me 6600 :-) 6 GB KIT.. latecy of 7 7 7 24
 
toolius said:
here is a very good review of the Gigabyte UD5 and the rampage II extreme.
[H] Enthusiast - Gigabyte EX58-UD5
They say its the Best VFM board out there :)
id say go with the UD5.
They rated the UD5 just below the rampage II extreme . SO VFM is unbeatable.
cheers sir :)
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I will go with the UD5 then, but whats VFM?
And finally which 6gb ram would be best suited for the UD5 mobo?
 
mod_to_odd said:
I will go with the UD5 then, but whats VFM?
And finally which 6gb ram would be best suited for the UD5 mobo?
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VFM = value for money :)

Get any triple channel RAM. Units rated at higher frequencies of 1600/1866 can result in higher memory bandwidth.
Crucial DDR3-1066 is available for about 5K from KMD. If your budget permits, get the OCZ, Corsair or GSkill 1600Mhz kit.
 
On the newegg page the RAM options are so many. What do you all think of the> CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D- Timing: 8-8-8-24

This is their best selling product at the moment. Is the latency timing good of this ram?

As far as compatibility, will this ram be best for the UD5?

Does this mobo have onboard graphics ?

Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
 
mod_to_odd said:
On the newegg page the RAM options are so many. What do you all think of the> CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D- Timing: 8-8-8-24

This is their best selling product at the moment. Is the latency timing good of this ram?

As far as compatibility, will this ram be best for the UD5?

Does this mobo have onboard graphics ?

Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
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$176 is hella expensive for something that costs well under $100 from other brands. Sure Corsair is a top level brand but then so are OCZ, GSkill and others. Go ahead if you have the cash but you can definitely get even faster ram (1866) from other brands for less than $176. For example, OCZ Platinum 1600 has lower stock timings of 7-7-7 and can be overclocked easily to 1850Mhz thereby matching faster 1866 Elpida HyperX chips that Corsair uses.

None of the X58 mobos have on-board graphics. Besides, it would be a major waste of money to pair a Core i7 with a crappy onboard solution. You're probably better off buying a C2D/PII X3 to match the capabilities of the rest of the system.
 
gforce said:
$176 is hella expensive for something that costs well under $100 from other brands. Sure Corsair is a top level brand but then so are OCZ, GSkill and others. Go ahead if you have the cash but you can definitely get even faster ram (1866) from other brands for less than $176. For example, OCZ Platinum 1600 has lower stock timings of 7-7-7 and can be overclocked easily to 1850Mhz thereby matching faster 1866 Elpida HyperX chips that Corsair uses.

None of the X58 mobos have on-board graphics. Besides, it would be a major waste of money to pair a Core i7 with a crappy onboard solution. You're probably better off buying a C2D/PII X3 to match the capabilities of the rest of the system.
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So what i am understanding is that lower timings is better? OCZ platinum and Gold are both priced the same but the latency timings differ, and i am guessing the platinum is slightly better bcoz of its lower timings? The only thing left to decide is RAM but i think the one u mentioned is a good choice.
If any other recommendations, then let me know.

ONe more important thing i must make a note of. I read this article on anandtech site. Something regarding damage of i7 cpu when using VDim.
Please take a look at this article. In one of the lines it says "Intel’s stance is clear on this subject, run VDimm higher than their 1.50V~1.65V guidelines and you will affect the life span of the processor. " I dont know all this.
AnandTech: Core i7 - Is High VDimm really a Problem?
 
MSI gave me big headaches with its eclipse mobo...It bricked itself on bios update, then when i booted again, it burnt itself and my gfx card...Im not asying its a bad board...Maybe the one i got was bad....Asus p6t is great but expensive at 20k...The gigabyte UD3r is really VFM.

ONe more important thing i must make a note of. I read this article on anandtech site. Something regarding damage of i7 cpu when using VDim.

Please take a look at this article. In one of the lines it says "Intel’s stance is clear on this subject, run VDimm higher than their 1.50V~1.65V guidelines and you will affect the life span of the processor. " I dont know all this.
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The actual restriction is between the cpu vtt voltage and the DIMM voltage...Your cpu vtt should be within 0.5v of the DIMM voltage...At stock, the vtt voltage is 1.15v, so if you run your mem at greater than 0.5v diffn, ie >1.65v, your procy will get fried sooner....It wont affect you at all if you stay within the guidelines...If you want to increase the DIMM voltage, then make sure you increase the vtt voltage accordingly...Also if you get a RAM with stock DIMM volts of 1.65, then i suggest increasing vtt to 1.2 from 1.15 as 1.15v is just barely meeting the criteria.
 
I don't really know how much money that is in US Dollars... but if yolur friend has enough money to burn... I would suggest getting a prebuilt Alienware computer. There will be better warranties and it will be configured to work together without the time involved to build it.

I know I speak for (at least) myself when I say that I build my own systems because ...

1. I enjoy tinkering :)

2. I am always on a budget ... so I have to be smarter about how I build it and upgrade to the parts I really want, as I can afford it.

3. Installing the OS and drivers can be a pain on the ass if you don't research your hardware 1st.

If i had an unlimited or much higher budget than I usually do, I think I would go this route as the warranty is much easier when you are dealing with one company and they (and other companies) build very nice high end systems ... and some like alienware have awesome custom cases.
 
Dear Pixelpusher..

i own 2 Alienware laptops and both are giving me loads of trouble.

1 is dead.. one is on its way out.

there is absolutely no service for alienware in india. so i dont know where you heard about alienware warranty in india but please tell me if there is india warranty .

imho its palin stupid to buy a alienware in india.

It makes sense in the states but certainly not in india unless you want to ship the computer to the states everytime something goes wrong.

Also the minute you open your pc cabinet/case yourself you void your warranty !! this is for desktops !!

You cant buy good gaming machines from any OEM in this country sir. Gotta build your own !!

cheers :)
 
toolius said:
Dear Pixelpusher..
i own 2 Alienware laptops and both are giving me loads of trouble.
1 is dead.. one is on its way out.
there is absolutely no service for alienware in india. so i dont know where you heard about alienware warranty in india but please tell me if there is india warranty .
imho its palin stupid to buy a alienware in india.
It makes sense in the states but certainly not in india unless you want to ship the computer to the states everytime something goes wrong.
Also the minute you open your pc cabinet/case yourself you void your warranty !! this is for desktops !!
You cant buy good gaming machines from any OEM in this country sir. Gotta build your own !!
cheers :)
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+1
Alienware is rubbish. DIY FTW!
 
It appears I was not aware of the difficulties in India with Alienware products :P.... the service here is quite different.

I really meant more than anything that buying a pre-configured high end product can often put you in a system that is built to have fewer compatibility issues and can give you a more comprehensive warranty without all the work. I don't live in India so this is based on my experience in Europe and the USA.

As it stands... I personally love to tinker and will likely always build my own machine. :)
 
For the memory i will suggest Mushkin or crucial tracers...
They are the best for performance(mushkin) and VFM(crucial tracers)..
If u want performance go for Mushkin..
if u want pure bling then th tracers will work god like... LED blinky lights..
they are any day better than corsair which doesnt have as much performance as mushkin and doesnt have the bling of the tracer..
 
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