Front loading or top loading washing machine?

So how do you manage to use citric acid to clean your machine internals? Do you directly add it into the detergent dispenser, or mix it in hot water and pour it inside the drum, as mentioned by LG?
 
Just put two scoops of the powder in the drawer. Run tub clean. It dissolves very easily. This way it runs into the machine and cleans out the drawer and pipes.

I'd add half a kilo of some mops as well to swirl the water around the tub.

They say not to put any fabric because during a tub clean cycle, the imbalance sensor is disabled so if the machine goes out of balance it can cause a problem.

Half a kilo or even a kilo isn't enough to send the machine out of balance. More might.
 
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Kaleen Bhaiya said:
You mean the big scoop which we get with 2kg powder detergent? Won't that be a bit too muc? That too 2x. I am assuming the total quantity would be 120gms.
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That's the scoop yes. It isn't much when the water used is 15L so the concentration is under 1%. I'd double it for a top loader full of water.

100gm is standard in the descaler packets sold. It seems like more because you paid for that much but now you can use more for less.

Btw can you post the hardness test of your borewell water? This time of the year I expect its at the hardest
 
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benryu said:
Installation completed today.
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Been a week now, why don't you give us a summary of how things are going and what your impression and reaction of others have been?

Does it clean better than your previous machine and how long does a full cottons load take to complete? 4 hours otherwise how long with AI DD?

Is the water level high enough during a wash? preference for powder or liquid or no preference

Can you address these misgivings one gets watching the two videos I posted about AI DD machine?
 
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Btw can you post the hardness test of your borewell water? This time of the year I expect its at the hardest
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I have given my test kit to a friend to determine his water hardness. Besides, we have got rainfall this week, so I don't think water hardness would have increased. Next month should be fine and will definitely do it if I get the time.
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Besides, we have got rainfall this week, so I don't think water hardness would have increased. Next month should be fine and will definitely do it if I get the time.
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I'm interested to know whether rain affects your underground borewell water. It does affect river water but it takes time. Many days of heavy rain to see a drop in hardness.

I think your borewell water if that is where it is sourced from and not mixed with other sources isn't going to change much. Meaning it's going to be in the 500 ppm range or close to it for the WHOLE year. If it does reduce then they are mixing in other sources.

Next month should be fine, the monsoons aren't due for at least another couple of months. The idea is to catch it at its hardest.

Actually, since you've had the machine now for a month, why don't you give us a review of how it works and what it is like to wash in 500 ppm water? any ways to improve it like if water was softer etc. Do you think a dedicated water softener or the use of additives is warranted or not?

You have not tried any options yet
 
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blr_p said:
Actually, since you've had the machine now for a month, why don't you give us a review of how it works and what it is like to wash in 500 ppm water? any ways to improve it like if water was softer etc. Do you think a dedicated water softener or the use of additives is warranted or not?

You have not tried any options yet
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Not this week. Will give a brief summary.

Overall happy with the machine except for the sound it makes given it runs on belt and pulley.
This BP mechanism perhaps is also responsible for less vibration and dancing as the power transfer seems smooth unlike in LG DD which has abrupt startup and shutdown which causes my other machine to dance when it is trying to balance the load. This IFB has not left the spot since day one.

For additives, I am using Blueoxy as mentioned. Still trying to figure out how much of a difference it makes to the laundry , with and without the use.
Detergent is Henko powder.
I have Anti- Scale system to treat hard water.
Already did a durm wash with IFB powder. Will do it with citric acid next time.
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
I have Anti- Scale system to treat hard water.
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How much is this and which model ?
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Overall happy with the machine except for the sound it makes given it runs on belt and pulley.
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Do you notice a difference in wash quality with the hard water compared to your previous location presumably softer water?

Any difference in stain removal? presuming you wash in a minimum 40-degree water

How much have you had to increase your usual detergent dose?
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
This BP mechanism perhaps is also responsible for less vibration and dancing as the power transfer seems smooth unlike in LG DD which has abrupt startup and shutdown which causes my other machine to dance when it is trying to balance the load. This IFB has not left the spot since day one.
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Lower centre of gravity with a belt-driven system means less vibration compared to DD whose motor is situated higher.

Underscores how important it is to do proper levelling with a DD machine. Dance? you definitely need to get a spirit level. Clearly hand levelling was not sufficient.

Take note @benryu the install guys don't test this. You get to discover this after they leave. Then you call them and they sell you a stand when you don't need one. Maybe you already got one already.
 
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I am thinking of getting a trolley stand as it becomes difficult to access and clean the lint filter located at the bottom. It's not like I have a choice but forced to purchase.

I so wished these manufacturers came up with pedestals like what we have in richer economies. Whenever I search for pedestals, Amazon throws up trolleys. Maybe these companies realised that we won't spend that much on trolleys.

I recall you linking a thread where Ravi posted some jugaad to make a pedestal. I wish his solution became a mainstream..
 
US Toploaders. Speed Queen is the runaway favourite for a lot of people but their latest offering four years ago did not have good wash action. With all the attendant user drama that comes with a flagship phone that has some issues.

So competitor Maytag decided to point it out and show the yellow towel in their machine actually does go around whereas the one in the SQ just stays where it is. Hence bad wash action


They have overloaded the machines here so not much moves. In real life they should have used less.

If Indian reviewers did this kind of wash action test with top loaders we'd discover quickly which machines were better than others. Whether there was much difference between top end vs cheaper when it comes to wash action.

As far as I can see if it does not have 6 motion then it's going to be second place. There are a lot of second places out there though. And one with an internal heater could match and even exceed 6 motion.


Course Speed Queen had to hit back, without that yellow towel :D
 
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Kaleen Bhaiya said:
I so wished these manufacturers came up with pedestals like what we have in richer economies.
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What kind of pedestals are those? You can use those fridge pedestal without wheels for washing machine too. The trolley with wheels cause lot of problems like the machine wandering off the spot if there is slope on the floor and dancing if there is imbalance in load. I got that fridge pedestal for about 100 rupees from a local shop. It hasn't cracked yet in the six months I'm using it.
 
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