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He supports Israel's 'right to win'. This is like Modi saying 'freehand to the forces'.
Things are about to get very interesting. Earlier obstacles have gone. If they want to setback Iran's nuclear program this is the time. Now to figure out the sequencing.
Very pleased to hear him threaten these useless protesters with deportation.
Things are about to get very interesting. Earlier obstacles have gone. If they want to setback Iran's nuclear program this is the time. Now to figure out the sequencing.
Very pleased to hear him threaten these useless protesters with deportation.
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All the dirty tricks that Biden-Harrris can do to Israel before Jan 20. And how the Bibi Trump team can blunt them. Particularly interested in permanently ending any prospect of two state.
Does not have to happen unless Biden-Harrris is as vindictive as Obama was
Next is what can Israel do? To Iran.
Israel has two and a half months to hit hezbollah & Iran. It seems they might make a ground invasion into Lebanon. A replay of the 2006 war with the aim to push hezbollah 30km north of the border.
Iran they can hit the nuclear infrastructure. Historic chance.
Israel does not have to wait for Iran to strike. Israel can go ahead on its own.
Going after the power infrastructure ensures no power for the nuclear infrastructure. Hitting their oil infrastructure means only China is affected as nobody else is buying oil from Iran after Trump's sanctions in his first term. Which will likely be reintroduced in his second term.
Should Iran retaliate across the gulf as it has threatened then it will be upto Biden-Harrris to play defense. They've moved their B52s there recently along with fighter jets and destroyers to act as a deterrent.
Does not have to happen unless Biden-Harrris is as vindictive as Obama was
Next is what can Israel do? To Iran.
Israel has two and a half months to hit hezbollah & Iran. It seems they might make a ground invasion into Lebanon. A replay of the 2006 war with the aim to push hezbollah 30km north of the border.
Iran they can hit the nuclear infrastructure. Historic chance.
Israel does not have to wait for Iran to strike. Israel can go ahead on its own.
Going after the power infrastructure ensures no power for the nuclear infrastructure. Hitting their oil infrastructure means only China is affected as nobody else is buying oil from Iran after Trump's sanctions in his first term. Which will likely be reintroduced in his second term.
Should Iran retaliate across the gulf as it has threatened then it will be upto Biden-Harrris to play defense. They've moved their B52s there recently along with fighter jets and destroyers to act as a deterrent.
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If Trump won preaching anti-war rhetoric, creating a new war will not bade well or him.
Also, he is going to sit on a seat of thorns, tons of court cases against him, a very concerning economy (Powell saying he cannot be replaced just after reducing interest rate, it comes in suspicious times), the establishment against him, what-not.
Reason why Biden gave a massive broad and wide smile after failing and presenting himself to public, he know what's in store for Trump.
Also, he is going to sit on a seat of thorns, tons of court cases against him, a very concerning economy (Powell saying he cannot be replaced just after reducing interest rate, it comes in suspicious times), the establishment against him, what-not.
Reason why Biden gave a massive broad and wide smile after failing and presenting himself to public, he know what's in store for Trump.
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Right so this is why Israel has to act within the two months before he becomes president as that way it is Biden that is responsible and not him.
It does mean things have to calm down when be enters office. For that to happen the adversaries have to come to some agreement. Hammas has to surrender. Hezbollah has to move 30km back. If they do that voluntarily then no fighting has to happen. If they don't then Trump will tell them I will give Israel whatever weapons they want and as long as it takes
He supports Israel to win. Not some useless stalemate Biden-Harrris was pushing.
Can't indict a sitting president. So they are filing these cases before he is a sitting president and is clearly to prevent leader of the opposition from running and after winning from being inaugurated. Mark Levin doesn't think its possible to indict him. Sitting or not.
Yes but this time Trump is no newbie and the decisive win means he has or will soon have the right people in place to deal with whatever comes.
He has become a public hero now. More they go after him, the stronger he becomes.
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In my books, Israel is destined to win by the wishes of western interests and it's naturally supposed to happen without much hindrances. There are discussions about regions of Lebanon permanently going under Israel control, which is okay too after a war.
Issue is with the way he talks about Iran. If a skirmish with Iran happen even from Pakistan's side, it's an issue for Trump. The way he calls out weak democrats for ua-ru war. There should not be a new war after he won. Not even after he is sitting on his destined seat. That should not be good for humanity, the way he proclaims.
Let us see how it works out.
That is where the issue is, the establishment will not backing him, we don't know how the monster is going to work out. If he was so good, he wouldn't have failed his second last election.
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If only this were true. Maybe it will change to what you said. All sorts of intrigues going on right now to topple the PM. Yes, in the middle of a war. Why not. Internal opposition. It's just crazy. I've never seen this happening in India.
Yes, I think this is the only way to ensure hezbollah does not reoccupy the buffer created after the war. So its like 1982 where they thought it would be a short war but ended up staying 18 years. Then in 1999, the highly decorated but strategically challenged Ehud Barak pulled them out. The world cheered.
What happened? Five years later they were forced to go back. We are treading on well known territory here.
The world demands Israel make peace. A left liberal government implements it and then a few years later Israelis pay the price.
The Lebanon pullout in 1999 led to the 2006 Lebanon war.
The 2005 pullout from Gaza led to Oct 7 2023.
Return of the global policeman is a good thing.
The Democrats instigated it. Following Zbigs cold war understanding and implementing it over twenty years later like as if the cold war never ended.
That's why it would never have happened under Trump or any other Republican president.
Why not? If he plays spoiler then who will dare to mess around.
They are more experienced this time. Unlike last time when he was an unknown so people have a good idea what to expect.
What will happen is fighting every inch and blocking him where possible. But they have numbers on their side. Winning the Senate and controlling the house bodes well for implementing policy.
That was because last time they were outplayed by the Dems with mail in ballots due to Covid. They had no clue about the numbers and reacted badly.
This time they mastered the art of mail in ballots and early votes and beat the Democrats at their own game.
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