Help: Water Pressure System and Water Softener for Home

The lab report came. The results of Aquasol is completely off. It said 6ppm whereas the actual hardness as per lab report is 60ppm.

Even in the second method, it indicated 25ppm(one drop to change blue). Therefore your recommended brand is not accurate for sure but gives some ballpark number only at low hardness water. For very hard water, the difference in estimate would be very high and not reliable per se.

To all forum users - This is what happens when you go with random internet stranger recommendations. Always use your own research based of the inputs given and don't go blindly with such recommendations.

You are confirming that you tested the softened water right?

That's what I implied
You are confirming that you tested the softened water right?

That's what I implied
Then there is no user error. It must be your error to think I tested some thing else when in fact I tested it appropriately.

Further to the lab test report, its very clear that you are affected by Dunning Kruger effect.
 
The lab report came. The results of Aquasol is completely off. It said 6ppm whereas the actual hardness as per lab report is 60ppm.
When there are so many satisfied users it's curious how it didn't work for you. I still maintain it was user error. There is no way it can be this much off. And get this folks he does not even own a test kit. His vendor did one test. That is the sum total of this characters experience with this product

Three tests are recommended. You never mentioned if you did that
Even in the second method, it indicated 25ppm(one drop to change blue). Therefore your recommended brand is not accurate for sure but gives some ballpark number only at low hardness water.
This is all your opinion based of a false result.
For very hard water, the difference in estimate would be very high and not reliable per se.
What is your water hardness out of the tap. We don’t even know that yet :hilarious:

Earlier I posted a video here of a guy using a water softener using aquasol and it worked perfectly.

To all forum users - This is what happens when you go with random internet stranger recommendations. Always use your own research based of the inputs given and don't go blindly with such recommendations.
You are going to need to do several tests with a water softener. You can go for your lab reports at how much was it a pop? lol

The rest of the world will continue with a tried and tested product and benefit from the savings which these products do well enough.

Then there is no user error. It must be your error to think I tested some thing else when in fact I tested it appropriately.
You were whining about hard water deposits. So tell me which water sample should you test in that case? Water entering the softener or water leaving
 
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When there are so many satisfied users it's curious how it didn't work for you. I still maintain it was user error. There is no way it can be this much off. And get this folks he does not even own a test kit. His vendor did one test. That is the sum total of this characters experience with this product

Three tests are recommended. You never mentioned if you did that

This is all your opinion based of a false result.

What is your water hardness out of the tap. We don’t even know that yet :hilarious:

Earlier I posted a video here of a guy using a water softener using aquasol and it worked perfectly.


You are going to need to do several tests with a water softener. You can go for your lab reports at how much was it a pop? lol

The rest of the world will continue with a tried and tested product and benefit from the savings which these products do well enough.


You were whining about hard water deposits. So tell me which water sample should you test in that case? Water entering the softener or water leaving
Doesnt matter who owned the kit. It was an aquasol kit having two methods to test. I have a video as well from the vendor himself doing the test and I did it by myself. I have lab reports to prove that Aquasol is off by a lot. For that matter bionix as well.

We did do three tests. One by vendor and 2 by myself(one in each method of the test kit). Vendor indicated less than 25ppm, i got less than 25ppm in the first method and 6ppm in the second method. So you can keep recommending whatever you want. I am not relying on Aquasol. Already shared the reports to some of the water experts to identify the root cause of the limescale deposits which you clearly have no idea of. You even indicated the water hardness would be more than 250ppm if i have limescale deposits. You clearly got affected by Dunning Kruger effect as I mentioned earlier and needs to learn a lot more to become a veteran in this field.

You still keep asking the same question which water I tested. I have responded already in my earlier posts. You may kindly refer the same.
You were smart enough to not ask the water report that I have which shows your intentions is to defend aquasol and not at all troubleshoot or analyze why Aquasol would have shown a different results.

It is due to a confirmation bias or you are affiliated with them which you are not transparent about.
 
Doesnt matter who owned the kit. It was an aquasol kit having two methods to test. I have a video as well from the vendor himself doing the test and I did it by myself. I have lab reports to prove that Aquasol is off by a lot. For that matter bionix as well.
It does because you can't do any more testing since you don't own any test kits.

Aquasol has a far larger inventory of products compared to Bionix meaning they have been in the field for longer. That's the reason to recommend them.
We did do three tests. One by vendor and 2 by myself(one in each method of the test kit). Vendor indicated less than 25ppm, i got less than 25ppm in the first method and 6ppm in the second method. So you can keep recommending whatever you want. I am not relying on Aquasol.
It is far simpler for everyone concerned to order a kit off Amazon and do as many tests as needed with results immediately avaliable as opposed to dealing with any lab, waiting for the result. Having to go back again and pay for each subsequent test.

So yes I am going to continue recommending this very same company to everyone for the above benefits. And write off your experience as an aberration

Why don't you order a kit and test it again. You are going to have to do this on a regular basis. Or you want to go to the lab every time?
Already shared the reports to some of the water experts to identify the root cause of the limescale deposits which you clearly have no idea of.
Root cause is an excess of salts by magnesium and/or calcium that cause hardness. Pretty basic and doesn't need an expert.
You even indicated the water hardness would be more than 250ppm if i have limescale deposits.
And what did the kit say was the hardness. Untreated obviously. You never told us.
 
It does because you can't do any more testing since you don't own any test kits.

Aquasol has a far larger inventory of products compared to Bionix meaning they have been in the field for longer. That's the reason to recommend them.

It is far simpler for everyone concerned to order a kit off Amazon and do as many tests as needed with results immediately avaliable as opposed to dealing with any lab, waiting for the result. Having to go back again and pay for each subsequent test.

So yes I am going to continue recommending this very same company to everyone for the above benefits. And write off your experience as an aberration

Why don't you order a kit and test it again. You are going to have to do this on a regular basis. Or you want to go to the lab every time?

Root cause is an excess of salts by magnesium and/or calcium that cause hardness. Pretty basic and doesn't need an expert.

And what did the kit say was the hardness. Untreated obviously. You never told us.
Untreated water hardness is 400ppm.

Root cause is excess salts due to magnesium or calcium?. What a joke. The lab test report says the calcium and magnesium levels and corresponding chloride levels are well below the low range of acceptable limits for a drinking water ISO standard as expected for a softened water. So clearly you have no clue when you say its due to calcium or magnesium.

Below is from chatgpt:
A water softener removes hardness-causing minerals, like calcium and magnesium, from water. This process, often using ion exchange, helps prevent limescale buildup in pipes and appliances, improves soap efficiency, and can extend the lifespan of certain appliances
  • Hard Water:
    Hard water contains high concentrations of minerals like calcium and magnesium, which form scale (a mineral deposit) when heated.

  • Ion Exchange:
    Water softeners utilize a process called ion exchange, where the hardness-causing minerals are replaced with sodium or potassium ions.


Sir, i am not ordering that kit again which is clearly not reliable. I would rather spend for another lab report after making changes to the setup as required. These kits not accurate, you can write off or write back, doesnt bother me.
 
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Untreated water hardness is 400ppm.
How did you measure this? Lab or aquasol
Root cause is excess salts due to magnesium or calcium?. What a joke. The lab test report says the calcium and magnesium levels are well below the low range of acceptable limits for a drinking water ISO standard as expected for a softened water. So clearly you have no clue when you say its due to calcium or magnesium.
Obviously I'm referring to untreated water. And its Mg & Ca salts that cause the hardness. Any VIII kid can tell you that
Sir, i am not ordering that kit again which is clearly not reliable. I would rather spend for another lab report after making changes to the setup as required. These kits not accurate, you can write off or write back, doesnt bother me.
Good idea because I have zero confidence in your testing skills.

Lab testing is not a choice for many others. So they don't test at all and not knowing can lead to expensive fixes if it's a front loader. Hence recommending the kit.


See how everything works without issues. His kit also has two ranges.

His hardness exceeds 500ppm which he estimates by counting the extra drops using a kit whose max is 500ppm

That's why I recommend the larger range 1000ppm kit when testing initially

And then he tests the softened water and knows his softener is working as intended

No rocket science at all here
 
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How did you measure this? Lab or aquasol

Obviously I'm referring to untreated water. And its Mg & Ca salts that cause the hardness. Any VIII kid can tell you that

Good idea because I have zero confidence in your testing skills.

Lab testing is not a choice for many others. So they don't test at all and not knowing can lead to expensive fixes if it's a front loader. Hence recommending the kit.


See how everything works without issues. His kit also has two ranges.

His hardness exceeds 500ppm which he estimates by counting the extra drops using a kit whose max is 500ppm

That's why I recommend the larger range 1000ppm kit when testing initially

And then he tests the softened water and knows his softener is working as intended

No rocket science at all here
400ppm was noted from the lab report from untreated water.

You are saying untreated water is causing limescale despoits?. You first said calcium amd magnesium salts cause limescale deposits then I said the levels of these two minerals in the softened water below the drinking water limit and now you are saying you meant untreated water.

What you originally meant to say was calcium and magnesium salts in the untreated water cause limescale deposits?.

Read this: only softened water is sent to the taps. Untreated water is not. I repeat untreated water is not sent to the taps. Also water softener has reduced it well below the limits. I repeat calcium and magnesium are below the limits in softened water.


So you don't have clue what you are talking about and keep saying you meant that or something else when probed further. I made my point clear. Water softener installed, Aquasol kit shows 6ppm/less than 25ppm whereas lab report shows 60ppm but limescale deposits still found in taps.

If anyone reaches in DM i can share the full uncut video of the testing performed by the vendor with Aquasol as well as the lab report. Therefore you don't need to have confidence in my skills, its done by experienced professionals working in the field. Aquasol is simply not reliable.

Randomly sharing some kent video is not proving anything. Like me no one has compared the lab report with Aquasol testing results. If there are, please share that.
 
400ppm was noted from the lab report from untreated water.
Why didn't you also test this with Aquasol? The kit you used could do it. It would have been an extra data point.
You are saying untreated water is causing limescale despoits?. You first said calcium amd magnesium salts cause limescale deposits
Untreated water with excess Ca & Mg salts is causing limescale deposits.

Yeah I had to clarify untreated water obviously
then I said the levels of these two minerals in the softened water below the drinking water limit and now you are saying you meant untreated water.
Right, because why are you mentioning treated/softened water when asking about limescale deposits? There won't be any because its been treated
What you originally meant to say was calcium and magnesium salts in the untreated water cause limescale deposits?.
Yes
Read this: only softened water is sent to the taps. Untreated water is not. I repeat untreated water is not sent to the taps. Also water softener has reduced it well below the limits. I repeat calcium and magnesium are below the limits in softened water.
That's fine

By water out of the taps I was referring to untreated water as if you didn't have a softener. I suppose this is where you got confused. Since out the tap for you is already treated water.
So you don't have clue what you are talking about and keep saying you meant that or something else when probed further. I made my point clear. Water softener installed, Aquasol kit shows 6ppm/less than 25ppm whereas lab report shows 60ppm but limescale deposits still found in taps.
a) an error was made when you tested with aquasol
b) 60ppm doesn't cause limescale deposits. It's soft water.
If anyone reaches in DM i can share the full uncut video of the testing performed by the vendor with Aquasol as well as the lab report. Therefore you don't need to have confidence in my skills, its done by experienced professionals working in the field. Aquasol is simply not reliable.
And I've posted a video by a layperson who had zero issues using this kit with a softener. Did you watch the video I posted?

There is definitely a mistake somewhere in your testing given the results you got. I can't say where.

Off by one order of magnitude? Your vendor should approach the seller he got the kit from and demand a refund or a replacement. Let us know how that exchange goes.

Randomly sharing some kent video is not proving anything. Like me no one has compared the lab report with Aquasol testing results. If there are, please share that.
Sure it is. Clearly shows the kit works well enough for anyone with a water softener. And that youtuber knows that because all the problems caused by bathing with hard water went away after using the softener and thanks to this kit he also knows why and by how much.

There was no need to get an independent lab report done as the softener was working as intended. Has continued to do so and for the next upgraded version he got later as well.

The method & chemicals used are proven. Accurate and affordable

https://www.researchgate.net/post/W...and_its_main_constituents_Ca2_and_Mg2_in_situ

What's ironic here is your lab likely used a similar test to measure the hardness.

What does your video prove? Nothing. Anyone can get it wrong. The goal here is to show it works and it does

We also have a positive review from another user here with a softener using the same testing kit.

Does @skoka123 feel the need to get a lab report or is the Aquasol testing to date adequate?
 
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