how "truly" HD is a 4GB HD rip ?

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I have seen lot of HD rips on demonoid and other sites which are 1080p or 720p and are also surprisingly 4 or under 4 GB. Is their A/V quality any better than that of a double layer DVD or a DVD for that matter? If I want HD rips should I go for them or go for rips bigger in size like 7 to 10 GB.

Thanks.
 
I doubt a 1080p mkv rip is 4gb in size. It should be much more. Though a 720p rip can be 4gb in size. I found that *visually* a 720p looks like a normal 2gb mkv rip. But the 4gb rip contains a audio stream of HD 6ch audio.
 
Check the resolution, there are quite good 480p rips, which fall between 720p rips and a normal XVID/DivX rip...
 
pom99 said:
I have seen lot of HD rips on demonoid and other sites which are 1080p or 720p and are also surprisingly 4 or under 4 GB. Is their A/V quality any better than that of a double layer DVD or a DVD for that matter? If I want HD rips should I go for them or go for rips bigger in size like 7 to 10 GB.

Thanks.
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An HD video in essence is any video of resolution 1280x720 (progressive scan) or 1920x1080 (progressive or interlaced),

While on the lookout for HD video files, one needs to keep an eye on the bitrate and the codec as well rather than just the resuolution.

A 3mpbs 1080p video in contrast to a 10mbps one, will look very crappy.

Also from my personal experience I feel H.264 can reproduce better quality than other codec's (xvid, etc) with the same bitrate

For eg, A 6000kbps h264 1080p will look better than a 6000kbps xvid 1080p.

As for your question that whether an original untouched DVD (720x480) is better a crap 720p/1080p release, both being about the same size

Well thats a personal choice.. I'd stick w/ the 720p release but not the 1080 or DVD, reason being a 1080 release in 4GB will look crap and a DVD(480p) release is just too small to see :P
 
Unless u have 2+ mBps connection downloading big movies is waste of time and u dont need all movies to be stored forever so just go for the 2-3gb ones... small = downloads faster = easier to store.... visual difference between 720 and 1080 is not justified by the difference in size of the two.
 
Rockfella said:
visual difference between 720 and 1080 is not justified by the difference in size of the two.
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Totally true....i too have now resorted on getting 720p rather than 1080p ones.Also for non videophiles even if one thinks that the 1080p is looking great, the reason may be purely psychological (read convince one self that "this looks better")
 
Yes...I too prefer 720p over 1080p...mostly because difference in picture quality is negligible (at least for my eyes ;)) and file size is lesser in case of 720p...
 
the only reason i download 720p is my comps processor gets >95% usage if i try to play a 1080p movie. in some cases it didn't go down below 100% for more than a minute :(
 
But in most of the cases i have seen that most 720p are not complete in resolution (1280 x 720) but like 1280 x 544 etc etc.
 
raksrules said:
Also for non videophiles even if one thinks that the 1080p is looking great, the reason may be purely psychological (read convince one self that "this looks better")
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Doesn't the size of your display play some role in this ?

If its small(er) then you won't notice the difference but what about a larger screen.
 
^^ Its largely the case, on a 40" inch TV there will be a considerable difference between a 720p and a 1080p file. On a 24" monitor its negligible, of course the sound encoding will be at a higher bitrate in a 1080p file. The best quality/size files I have seen are h.264 720p rips in a mkv container..
 
raksrules said:
But in most of the cases i have seen that most 720p are not complete in resolution (1280 x 720) but like 1280 x 544 etc etc.
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The 1280x720 is the actual resolution with the black bars. Not all movies have a 16:9 Aspect Ratio and there is no need for including the black bars while ripping the movie. Hence the variation in the height, but the width is always 1280px :)
 
You can go for the 4gb 720p rips if you are using your 20 - 22" computer monitor. But if you are viewing on big screen like 40-46" TVs then you will find difference in 720 and 1080p.

Most of the movies have black bars. So you wont get full 720p or 1080p resolution. The size basically depends on the bitrates. H.264 codec is normally used as we can achieve good quality at lower bitrates.

For eg: The quality would be same if you encode a movie with 4mbps using xvid codec and 2mbps bitrate with a h264 codec. But since it is 2mbps the size will be reduced in half.

Usulay encoders choose higher bitrates to encode movies that have lot of faced paced action and lesser bitrates for animated movies.

So if you compare a 1080p movie which you get on a blue ray disc with the one which is out there on the net which is around 10-12gb, you wont find any difference as the encoders will be using h264 codec.
 
Download 1080p only for stuff like Planet Earth.

I am very much happy with 720p released by my fav releaser with just 1.5 to 2 GB size.
 
swordfish123 said:
Most of the movies have black bars. So you wont get full 720p or 1080p resolution.
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It is true that most of the 720p/1080p have black bars but one good thing is that my media player can stretch the picture to fill the entire real estate of the TV so i do not see the black bars (i can turn this thing off also).
Moreover the picture does not look stretched.
 
Praks said:
Download 1080p only for stuff like Planet Earth.

I am very much happy with 720p released by my fav releaser with just 1.5 to 2 GB size.
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Can you tell the name of releaser...is it secret_myth ?
 
[quote name='Praks']You got that... :clap: :clap: :clap:

He/she/it is THE best HD ripper with amazing size.[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :rofl:

Sorry, couldn't resist :bleh:
 
raksrules said:
It is true that most of the 720p/1080p have black bars but one good thing is that my media player can stretch the picture to fill the entire real estate of the TV so i do not see the black bars (i can turn this thing off also).
Moreover the picture does not look stretched.
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if you stretch the picture it will looked stretched :bleh:

Maybe you could try zooming in a little, so you loose little on the sides and u loose the black bars
 
raksrules said:
It is true that most of the 720p/1080p have black bars but one good thing is that my media player can stretch the picture to fill the entire real estate of the TV so i do not see the black bars (i can turn this thing off also).
Moreover the picture does not look stretched.
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I don't think its a good thing. The images may not be displayed correctly (incorrect aspect ratio).
The black bars are there to maintain the AR.
 
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