CPU/Mobo I ♥ Dual Cores

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I wouldn't go much into detail,you must have heard the arguments of dual vs quad,I for one don't think much about these quad cores.They're price to performance and performance to power consumption ratios just doesn't cut it for me in comparison to dual cores and I don't do image editing,video rendering stuff.
I had almost made up my mind to go for the E8600 and wait out this year and hope that quads would be be properly utilized at least by next year but the release of the dual core i5s has changed everything.
I know I'm paying extra for some useless IGP junk that I'll never use.I know the 670s cost more than the 750s but I'll still be going for the 670s anyway :cool2:

There's a lot of marketing hype about how quads and hex/oct processors are the future but the future isn't anywhere close IMO as far as the common techie is concerned.
I'll be waiting patiently for another month,one,to let the new i5 prices settle down,two,hope that nvidia comes out with a 1156 board,I can't do without they're memory unlinked OC :ashamed: Otherwise its one of those asus p7p55d-e variants for me.

Anybody else going for the dual cores,I'd love to hear from you.
 
AFAIK nobody is going for dual core as for now and everyone is eying on tri or quads or duals which unlocks to quad. :)

If not applications then game developers have started optimizing their games for quad utilization. But the good news is even software companies have started designing their products for quad processor.

The scenario is, either the dual core owners are likely to upgrade to a better quad or are awaiting for other releases from AMD and Intel.

So now even a newbie wont mind for a quad as now its not just a utility factor but the fact quads prices have came down considerably. And it can be seen as a one time investment for many new or even existing customers for at least next 2-3yrs IMO. Thus they will prefer spending/changing often more on gpu, ram, storage etc.

But we cant ignore the dual cores as well. Restricted usage users will definitely opt for it. So either it is utility based choice or future or money, we cant exactly predict.

If you are really happy & get your work done with a Maruti then why will you opt for a Toyota or Honda unnecessarily? ;)
 
I will be on single/dual cores till i start doing something (and that too professionally) that utilises quads at practically 4x(speed of one core) almost.

And/or dual cores are no longer in production (if such professional requirements don't come up at my end).

Till then no point wasting so much potential and power. :)
 
ronit said:
If not applications then game developers have started optimizing their games for quad utilization. But the good news is even software companies have started designing their products for quad processor.
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Was very excited when I first heard that couple of years back,not much now.hedging my bets on the fact that games/programs in the real world are optimized to use single/dual cores rather than 3/4/6 cores.Only program that i use frequently and that seems to improve with addition of cores is winrar.

ronit said:
But we cant ignore the dual cores as well.If you are really happy & get your work done with a Maruti then why will you opt for a Toyota or Honda unnecessarily? ;)
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Doesn't really work in my case,this analogy,when i'll be paying more for a dual core i5 670 compared to a quad i5 750.Its more like buying an imported superhatch which is small in size and has a powerful engine which makes more sense in city travel than buying an Innova or a big sedan in the hopes that the street conditions will improve drastically in the next year or so ;-)
 
Similar belief, I prefer decent duals that give out higher clock speeds easily with lower vcores than quads that are priced at twice as much or such is the nature of my usage. Microprocessors technology sure is progressing very fast, both Intel and AMD are making bringing out products faster than we would need them.
 
@OP:

I am on a dual core, and highly satisfied. It OC's like hell, and gives nice performance. Yes, at times I felt the pang for the Q9550, but feel its not worth the price to the performance I will get.

@damn:
How you got that multiplier to 8.5. I thought it was locked. Am running at 381 Mhz x 10.5..?
 
asingh said:
@damn:
How you got that multiplier to 8.5. I thought it was locked. Am running at 381 Mhz x 10.5..?
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Core 2 family allows lowering the multiplier. Increasing the multiplier is only possible on the extreme editions though.
 
^^Why have u lowered the multiplier?

IMHO nowadaays games are becoming more and more optimized for multi cores...
 
Arun1 said:
I wouldn't go much into detail,you must have heard the arguments of dual vs quad,I for one don't think much about these quad cores.They're price to performance and performance to power consumption ratios just doesn't cut it for me in comparison to dual cores and I don't do image editing,video rendering stuff.
I had almost made up my mind to go for the E8600 and wait out this year and hope that quads would be be properly utilized at least by next year but the release of the dual core i5s has changed everything.
I know I'm paying extra for some useless IGP junk that I'll never use.I know the 670s cost more than the 750s but I'll still be going for the 670s anyway :cool2:

There's a lot of marketing hype about how quads and hex/oct processors are the future but the future isn't anywhere close IMO as far as the common techie is concerned.
I'll be waiting patiently for another month,one,to let the new i5 prices settle down,two,hope that nvidia comes out with a 1156 board,I can't do without they're memory unlinked OC :ashamed: Otherwise its one of those asus p7p55d-e variants for me.

Anybody else going for the dual cores,I'd love to hear from you.
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Old news . Practically 2009 saw the dawn of multicore optimised games like Prototype . Stop living in 2007-2008 when quads were excessively priced and dual were the efficient and obvious choices as no multicore optimised games were not out.

Nobody can't be stupid enough to buy Core i5 670(dual core ) leaving Core i5 750 (quad core )
 
comp@ddict said:
^^Why have u lowered the multiplier?
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The G-Skill Pi blacks that I have can do about 1100 Mhz CL5 or 950 Mhz CL4, both at 2.1v. Based on my usage, I figured about 3.6-3.8 Ghz would do me good although the chip I have can go all the way up to 4.8 Ghz stable.

If I lowered the FSB and used a higher CPU multiplier, my RAM would have to be underclocked or if I used a higher FSB:DRAM ratio, my RAM would be unstable.
 
First thing, I love the title. And coming to the point, I think for now its better to go for Dual core only if one is on a budget. But AMD Athlon II X4 620 seems really a good budget processor. So one can go for this processor also. Currently not many games & applications are optimized to take full advantage of Quad core processors. I think it will take minimum 1 year for this to happen.

Edit: But yes, if you want to be future proof, go for a Quad core.
 
you can always disable the other 2 cores if you are concerned about power while willing to not upgrade cpu soon..:P

as for optimization, you can do it by yourself...!!

i used to have custom core affinity for different type of apps until last i formatted.

used to have an application to manage that.

all network related apps were shifted to 3rd and 4th core whenever they were started.

used to run games for 1st two cores while downloading over LAN at high speed.. it does make a huge difference..

i did not do benching for any game but overall system was more responsive with affinity distribution.

currently i'm not gaming and my main hdd has gone for replacement so did not look into it.

shall search and post the application again.. (yes it was a Freeware :D)
 
I got a Quadcore Q9550 for 7.5K(1yr used) which I think is awesome, considering 12MB Cache and it OC's to 3.4 on stock HSF at 50 Deg. The price difference is barely anything. M not sure about he Core i5/i7 but for Core2 you can get a Q8200 for 8.5K
 
madnav said:
you can always disable the other 2 cores if you are concerned about power while willing to not upgrade cpu soon..:P

as for optimization, you can do it by yourself...!!

i used to have custom core affinity for different type of apps until last i formatted.
used to have an application to manage that.
all network related apps were shifted to 3rd and 4th core whenever they were started.
used to run games for 1st two cores while downloading over LAN at high speed.. it does make a huge difference..
i did not do benching for any game but overall system was more responsive with affinity distribution.
currently i'm not gaming and my main hdd has gone for replacement so did not look into it.
shall search and post the application again.. (yes it was a Freeware :D)
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Yeah I guess I'd have done that if I were to believe that quad core optimized stuff is just round the corner but I'm betting on that not happening for at least another year.Quads running as duos would still oc like they were quads,3.2 to 3.5 at best.The i5 670 on the other hand,a 32nm chip and with the IGP junk practically disabled uses ~50W of power giving a lot of room for ocing.With intel boost thingy itself it goes to 3.7,anybody could do 4.2-4.5 on stock cooling matching extreme OCed E8600 levels.With some decent cooling upgrades,however,sustained,stable 5+Ghz doesn't seem far fetched at all.
 
It depends a lot on one's usage. A dual core is more than good enough for typical casual users. For many power users a Quad core is not nearly good enough. By power user I do not mean someone who runs CAD or video editing apps either. How about heavy multi tasking having several apps open, numerous windows, encoding videos and watching a HD video at the same time. How about running 2 or 3 OS in parallel via VirtualBox or VMWare. Then there are games that are increasingly getting optimized for quads. Other than that they are also great for people who take their work home. For people who are into programming. Visual studio is very well optimized and even the compilation time of any code can be reduced to 1/4th with quads.
 
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so i am happy with amd phenom 550 x/2 unlock to quad core oc 3.5 ghz stable on stock fan and it ran stable and faster speed no issue and it ran all max core stable at heavy application :)
 
Well when i was buying i bought no less than a quad coz i wanted to save time now i can start winrar compression while playing some game like Cod:MW and still get playable fps can you do this with C2d no coz i have 2 c2d's as well but c2d's are better vfm if you are on a budget. Rite now what op is saying is not making sense coz he is spending more for less power. :)
 
ronit said:
@madnav:

i guess you are talking about this application--CPU-Control
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nope, it was some other app, i somehow forgot the name :( .. was stored on the hdd which has gone for rma..

although if this app is allowing you to do what i was talking about then why not this one ??!! ..

downloading it now, will try :)

EDITeD:

this one is working just fine :)

will still try to find that app.. it allowed further related options..
 
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