I Give Up. Windows Is Proof That People Are Too Stupid To Use Computers.

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What is the point you are trying to make Praka? We all know how good linux is when it comes to server and distributed systems. But that does not constitute the majority of users. For linux to be adopted widely, it needs to be fixed. Yes, desktop linux is broken for use by normal users.

And even if that is done, Windows will still be popular because it is easy. And it is well supported. You can keep blabbering about viruses and malware and all, but that is because people don't know how to keep their systems safe. I've been using Windows XP for over 5 years now, and haven't faced crippling virus/malware attacks (I was infected once, but it was because I didn't have any anti virus running, and I plugged in an already infected pen drive)

We can keep on arguing endlessly. But nothing is going to change. Windows will still be used by the masses, either out of ignorance, or choice.
 
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chiron said:
This is especially true in case of cafes where I've noticed the tech guys having to reinstall the OSes pretty much every other day due to malware and other problems because the idiots using it don't know what sites to go to for stuff. Most of the current builds of Linux can get all of the above functionalities without any hassles.

yes but countermeasures are very simple, have a ghost image of the install and re-image, 5 mins all done. This is what ppl did over 10 yrs ago with much weaker offerings from M$ and many fortune 500 companies chugged along without too much trouble.

I'd say the opposite is true for cafe owners, the bulk of thier customers are only familair with windows so it helps to give them what they want. Your argument is more from a licenses point of view where i'd agree its cheaper for the owner but depends how clued up their users are. Now if we were in Kerala maybe you could pull it off but doubtful in my state.

Speaking about licenses, it really depends on how big the company is, the big ones get massive discounts. The very big ones dictate to M$ even when they will migrate to the next OS and still get support.

Its mostly the mid to smaller ones that have to pay more per license but M$ still does their best to counter.
 
Praka you win, we all are losers because

1) we dont have to type some command to install an application, a simple double click would do for us.

2) we dont have to worry about hardware compatibility when buying some new hardware.

3) we all are big enough to know how to use anti virus and firewalls and remain protected.

4) we hate to switch operating systems when we want to play some games.

remember there are a bunch of psychopaths over the internet who develop some virus to infect your computers, but what the heck even psychoypaths dont create viruses for linux, look how much its hated in the world.

well i am not completely against linux but when it comes to desktop os then windows wins hands down and ya now the truth hurts but not to windows users
 
i think what he meants to say is...that 'People Hate linux widout experiencing it!!??'

french fries any1?
 
People who are ignorant of technology and computing think that windows is the only or the best operating system around.

Many people who are knowledgeable of technology and computing think that Linux is the best operating system.

But its the people who had experience with all, that realize that Windows is still a way better OS than Linux in many ways despite its shortcomings.

The fact is that Linux is no good in its free software form. Commercialization is every much required to make it any good for serious use. Most of the companies that use Linux either buy commercial enterprise versions that cost a bomb because of the support and maintenance they provide or alternatively, the company hires experts to take care of the maintenance for them for heavy pay packets. Other than that, the only people who are using Linux are the ones who either want to experiment with it or have so bare min requirements that the components they are going to use are stable enough for daily use.

I have myself been trying/using various flavors of Linux starting with Slackware Linux 2.0 in 1997. Most of my B.Tech Course work involving programming was done using GCC under Linux. I used to have 4 different flavors of Linux on my machine during my college days and I still have the latest versions of Ubantu and Mandriva distributions installed on Virtual Machines through Virtual Box. I agree Linux has come a long way from where it was once, but believe me, it still has a long way to go if it has to be any serious competition to the likes of Windows.

As for windows, at the cost of some stability, it bought ease of use, compatibility and acceptance. Something no other OS was able to achieve even though many were around for as long as windows did. Software written 10 years back still works on windows. This was because, MS always ensured that their backward compatibility is maintained. This is indirectly a reason for the less than perfect stability and security of the OS. Though MS has done a lot towards increasing security and stability, it does not do it at the cost of loosing backward compatibility. I would go as far as to say that they have been doing a decent job of balancing both. A major part of the problems with Windows is because of bad code written by Third party application/driver developers. They made it so easy for even the developers to write new apps that developers keep doing sloppy work leading to the poor stability of the OS.

On the same lines, Mac OS is the exact opposite of Windows. Apple has been doing a very sloppy job with its OS and its the third party developers who ensure that the OS bugs do not ruin the experience of the software they developed. they do not care about backward compatibility or stability of SDK's. Its a major pain for any medium to large developer to develop for the OS and keep releasing patches every time apple breaks their frameworks. That's why you don't see a lot of developers seriously developing software for this Platform.

As for those Linux and OS X fans who diss that MS has been nothing but a copy cat, even Linux is a copy of Unix and all other Unix clones that came before it. Mac OS is no better. All the so called Apple introduced concepts were copied from some one else. So why the special treatment for MS? The only reason I can come up with is that people like to support the underdogs.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
But its the people who had experience with all, that know that Windows is still a way better OS than Linux in many ways.

This is clear going by the comments so far but our hero does not buy any of it :hap5:
 
Linux is cr@p, Linux is Evil, Linux is for lunatics...Windows is the KING :bleh:

aaw..just tried to post something directly opp to Praka's ........sorry,but i accept defeat, i am not as good as him in idiocy
 
@nemesis:It depends upon people's perspective.I and many others found Linux as a better choice compared to whatever usability factor window$ currently is offering.

for my part ,I too had my Linux experience during My Engg days back in 1998 somewhere.It was redhat 6?? something.

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I completely denies that someone says Linux Graphical Desktop Environments are not userfriendly.it will be the biggest FUD ever heard.

I am on GNU/Linux (debian) for around 7 years continuously.Gnome and Kde developed a lot and usability is their primary point in development.

I never miss Window$(I am forced to outside -that's another matter due to moronic society who supports the monopoly blindly).The One who dual boot with window$ cannot understand the beauty of Linux Desktop!seriously!

There is a difference between OSS and FOSS.and I support FOSS which means literally a Free Society Wr.to Computing.It needs mandatory opening of code if you want to sell it or made it available for download.

M$ and reverse compatibility?seriously!can I run a cad version for win 98 on win 7?without any issues?NO is the answer.
 
I think open source supporters are the most closed minded people i have ever come across be it in online or real life.

viruses are over hyped,i am running vista last 1yr without any active av's before that windows xp without any av.if u know ur way around u r safe frm these malwares.Only absolute noobs gets infected with viruses but balming them for dat as these linux supporters is lame.Because people are good at different areas.

Why do some people hate windows without paracticing safe computing??? and they know windows changed computing history.
 
Why is it necessary with window$ to practice safe computing? billu needs the user to nit-pick every website whether safe or not?huh?

^don't Generalize. when it comes to FOSS support ,I am the most closed minded person.there is no mercy for the villain(M$) .few Linux users(wiblow$ users) are not affected by ideologies you know -they just want to try Linux as they do with their pirated warez/crack/patch whatever they do.same mentality.
 
praka123 said:
I support FOSS which means literally a Free Society Wr.to Computing.

It needs mandatory opening of code if you want to sell it or made it available for download.

M$ and reverse compatibility?seriously!can I run a cad version for win 98 on win 7?without any issues?NO is the answer.

Why would a company thats spent lots on R&D publish its code to the world. That code is what makes their product unique and might be all the difference in closing shop or turing a healthy profit.

So if the reqmt is source code, then all you will get on such a platform is the older (popular) stuff.

Now if you go BSD license there is no such reqmt and the possibilties improve but its still very niche and not for everybody.
 
^that won't make sense to people who can think only closed source.

Do you know the basic thing about FOSS?

The RIGHTS for viewing and Modifying the source code.Here ,with FOSS ,a community is benefitting from the code.Innovations Happens.

for more info-please read completely:

Welcome! - Free Software Foundation

What is free software and why is it so important for society?

Free software is software that gives you the user the freedom to share, study and modify it. We call this free software because the user is free.

To use free software is to make a political and ethical choice asserting the right to learn, and share what we learn with others. Free software has become the foundation of a learning society where we share our knowledge in a way that others can build upon and enjoy.

Currently, many people use proprietary software that denies users these freedoms and benefits. If we make a copy and give it to a friend, if we try to figure out how the program works, if we put a copy on more than one of our own computers in our own home, we could be caught and fined or put in jail. That’s what’s in the fine print of the license agreement you accept when using proprietary software.

The corporations behind proprietary software will often spy on your activities and restrict you from sharing with others. And because our computers control much of our personal information and daily activities, proprietary software represents an unacceptable danger to a free society.

complete article here:

What is free software and why is it so important for society? - Free Software Foundation

FREE SOFTWARE DEFINITION:

The Free Software Definition - Free Software Foundation
 
LOL at all the posts. First of all I doubt Bill Gates is gonna kill you if you write 'Windows' and 'Microsoft' properly! Why $$$?? How does this look? £inux..

Is is this very attitude among Linux users that they are geekier than the rest of the world that makes it impossible for Linux to evolve outside the server market.

If you are so keen on FOSS, you should not be able to play most popular audio/video formats available on the internet!!

You would know the pain it takes to develop and maintain code if you are the working in a software company for a living!! Not a garage programmer.. It's true FOSS is a great thing, but to have every software FOSS compliant and bashing every developer who doesn't want to disclose his/her code is unacceptable. In fact you are curtailing the freedom of the Developer to protect his code by forcing him to release his code to the whole world!! So much for the Free Software Foundation..
 
Why is it that I am getting a sense of Déjà vu reading this thread?

Wasn't this thread posted a long time ago?
 
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