I want elections on TE

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Party Monger said:
I'l vote the person who increases the mailbox space...

Bring out your election manifesto already...:P
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Section mods can't promise that in any case :P

Section mods are expected to have knowledge and interest in their section. They are also expected to post good reliable information consistently, apart from maintaining some discipline and mood.
 
vij said:
Section mods can't promise that in any case :P

Section mods are expected to have knowledge and interest in their section. They are also expected to post good reliable information consistently, apart from maintaining some discipline and mood.
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But they can surely bribe the higher up's for me:P
 
it will be a fruitless exercise, and will leave sour taste in environment everywhere on TE.

Its best the way it goes, some one rightly said "Don`t fix it if it aint broken."
 
Why is everybody getting serious about an Internet messageboard?
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:D

Being a mod is probably the single most painful thing anyone can do on a forum. My heart goes out to those who volunteer for these positions. They're thankless, and the command chain is completely opaque - which is why a lot of the decisions provoke anger and negative reactions (and sometimes these reactions are unjustified/too extreme as well).

Anybody who is in a position to make a decision (any decision) can be misguided or mean enough to misuse that position. That's part of what makes us human, and unfortunately we seem to always point towards the people who have appeared to make that decision when things go wrong.

In exactly the same way that the current system is not infallible, no other one is. I think that these boards are run by small consortiums who let the community operate within a set of guidelines (and for TE, that's pretty wide IMO). I like hanging out here, but if democracy comes to TE(like it came to Iraq, for example) I'm out, FWIW.

I may not agree with the selection of, or see eye to eye with all the mods, and I think a lot of the new members are not contributing positively, and it's not what it used to be sometime back - but those are the pitfalls of scale. It still lives and overall nice - nicer than a lot of other fora so far. I contribute very little nowadays, mainly because there's not much thought-provoking stuff happening on the tech boards - see the 'bottleneck' threads for examples of ludicrous concepts and suggestions. Unfortunately in public discussion there's not much one can (or indeed, should) do to stifle a drift, unless it goes off topic. Everybody's entitled to have an opinion and voice it, and as the internet grows you will see this grow (and worsen).

What happens when people who have and freely support such weird concepts of logic and technology are asked to vote? And that, for people who will run this board? It's OK to vote for a favorite hard drive manufacturer or video card. Let's not expand the scope. And you can't have a 'restricted democracy'. That is even worse. If it's open, it's open, if it's not, then it's not. 500+ posts, 1000+ reps whatever - you'll then have people working up reps and post counts to get into the inner circle.

And even after all of that, you won't stop the flow of people crying out mod abuse. Just because he is an elected mod, does not protect him from abusive members, just as members are not protected from an abusive mod (even if he is elected). We elect our governments - look what that got us.
 
Excellent write-up cranky :)

It doesnt have to be elections, like I said, sectional mods can be changed half yearly by the global moderators. It keeps them fresh and motivated to lead, post and contribute usefully.

IMO the primary responsibilty of "Section Mods " should be to post knowledgeable stuff about the section assigned and keep it active, thats the tough part, other responsibilities are secondary and easier.
 
How would anyone know if anything else works if not tried out?

May be good may be bad, bit no one knows for sure.

The same old tirade of don't fix it if it ain't broken is pointless. These words spell death to creativity, responsiveness, and any hope of bringing about new things that ought to replace the old.
 
Please no elections.

TE had remained free from politics , is free from politics and shall remain free from politics.

Once democracy starts , quality of TE will fall.

Section Mods would be divided into Numerous camps

I don't want that .

I also believe Mods should be selected on trustworthy rather than popularity.

This is one Forum i don't wan't politics to grab hold of .

First Backstabbing , then Back Bi***ing , then Bribing and before you know it this one big happy family of TE members would be englulfed by politics.

Everybody will start concentrating more into elections.

This is a Tech forum , please don't create a politics forum here.

It will be like if 1 of 5 contenders wins , then the rest 4 will walk out and pretty soon a paralle TE will be formed.
 
I may not agree with the selection of, or see eye to eye with all the mods, and I think a lot of the new members are not contributing positively, and it's not what it used to be sometime back - but those are the pitfalls of scale. It still lives and overall nice - nicer than a lot of other fora so far. I contribute very little nowadays, mainly because there's not much thought-provoking stuff happening on the tech boards - see the 'bottleneck' threads for examples of ludicrous concepts and suggestions. Unfortunately in public discussion there's not much one can (or indeed, should) do to stifle a drift, unless it goes off topic. Everybody's entitled to have an opinion and voice it, and as the internet grows you will see this grow (and worsen).
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Cranky, thats gonna be the case everywhere when an influx of new people coming in, the way I see it a lot of readers of the Indian tech magazine and they are unaware of quite a few basic concepts of computer hardware. If people like you stop posting, there is very little the board as general is going to be aware. I would say every once in a while do post in your areas of interest (ie. audio or PSU etc) and be point blank if any wrong information is floating around. I do that quite often if I see the entire wave agreeing with something that doesn't make sense to me :)

@Sheru: I dont know why, but being a mod is not a glamorized/power position :P Most of the team is old timers, and in a way democratically selected by the previous team. (Think of it as a Rajya Sabha member)
 
Aces - whereas I agree with the fact that I do need to post (and it's not like I don't) - I can't be the voice of reason in the cacophony of confusion - soon you're just assumed to be a blabbering old man, you know the ones who carry signs saying the world is going to end ;)

And it's not just audio/PSU - I'm pretty deep into microprocessor tech as well, but like I said if there's just too much FUD (and some of it is going on right now in another CPU related thread where there's utter confusion between power consumption, TDP and energy-efficient CPUs being mistaken for retail versions) I will stop posting after some time. I can't stand dunderheads, and stubborn ones even less.
 
@ Aces

There are some moderators who are primarily inactive, even when active, they hardly post anything useful. Is it befitting of the job? Except for the founder moderators(obviously deserve leeway), everyone else should be expected to perform IMO. Change keeps some people fresh. It doesn't have to be via public election. What's your opinion?
 
^^ how do you know if they are inactive? Just because they dont post?

There are other roles, like cleaning up threads and posts which get reported. On a 10000+ board, things are likely to keep them busy.
 
vij said:
IMO the primary responsibilty of "Section Mods " should be to post knowledgeable stuff about the section assigned and keep it active, thats the tough part, other responsibilities are secondary and easier.
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I beg to differ.

It never occurred to you that, that staff members handling a section like GT would have to enforce the secondary rather "easier" responsibilities, to maintain order before they can get to posting "knowledgeable" stuff (primary responsibility) there? Let's not forget, they are members too.

Considering how other forums are maintained, it is only right that we try to maintain a difference at TE, with how orderly, a potentially vulnerable section like GT is maintained. Everybody still has fun at the end of the day.

My 2cents.
 
^^ Lol to tell you the truth, in the midst of a hectic job, I had declined being a mod when TA shifted to TE. Thought didnt have the time, now I felt I can contribute approx. 1-2 hrs a day, hence applied when TE started the "recruitment" drive.

My point being, prior to being a mod I would surf the hardware section quite a lot, but these days whenever am on TE its primarily the mod section (trust me there is a lot of clean-up/discussions work involved), I hardly browse through other sections. I am sure its similar with the other mods, the "mods" work does take time hence there will be some reduction in the other activities. Which is where I would really encourage other older members to participate. Cranky did mention at a lot of in-accurate stuff floating around, but trust me people will actually give higher weightage to any points by a senior member.

In the end, the mod cycle will keep churning, most of the guys are young students, as & when they get busy with professional lives the site will require fresh blood...
 
SharekhaN said:
^^ how do you know if they are inactive? Just because they dont post?

There are other roles, like cleaning up threads and posts which get reported. On a 10000+ board, things are likely to keep them busy.
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Alright. I stand corrected :)

But personally, I would like to think that a section mod must make atleast 'two' relevant threads a week, dealing with any topic in his section.
 
Completely agree with what Aces has posted so far.

vij said:
Change keeps some people fresh. It doesn't have to be via public election. What's your opinion?
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Of course we do that. A moderators position is not a permanent affair. It gets reviewed from time to time internally. Though we havent released anyone yet. Its a voluntary job and if you dont have time for it then someone else must take your place. The show must go on without the star cast getting heavier with guest appearances. :P

And yes the founder members get to stay forever. :bleh:
 
@cranky, being a senior member you should take the initiative to explain to those dunderheads whats right and not. dont stop posting even if people dont take you seriously. atleast you will make your point come across and if not today help some one in future when they read through that thread.
 
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