Market Feedback I was fooled by TE Member sickizblank :(
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^^No, there isn't any foolproof way out. The guy can go to cybercafe, can use anonymous proxies lots of ways out.
@The Sorcerer Shutting down Market section is really not a good idea, what about us?? Lot's of faithful TE members?? Who get great deals here??
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Have an idea, how about blocking newbies for FS threads?? Not by post count, but by time frame and forum activity. Or something like only privileged members are accessible for FS threads??
@The Sorcerer Shutting down Market section is really not a good idea, what about us?? Lot's of faithful TE members?? Who get great deals here??
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Have an idea, how about blocking newbies for FS threads?? Not by post count, but by time frame and forum activity. Or something like only privileged members are accessible for FS threads??
@Krishnandu: I disagree that newbies should be blocked.
For instance myself a verified ebay user as well as trusted member at other forum.
So,just because I joined TE recently make me un-trusted?
IMO: There can guidelines like Indication along a seller name that he/she is newbie so deal at own risk.
And for others who are verfied already by ebay/other forum this fact can be disclosed(in some know your seller/buyer section).
For instance myself a verified ebay user as well as trusted member at other forum.
So,just because I joined TE recently make me un-trusted?
IMO: There can guidelines like Indication along a seller name that he/she is newbie so deal at own risk.
And for others who are verfied already by ebay/other forum this fact can be disclosed(in some know your seller/buyer section).
There is no solution to this unless the itrader thing is made to incorporate all the small aspects of the deal like time of dispatch after receiving payment, proper impormation was given before the deal, how the package was sent, were all accessories provided as they were promised, post sale warranty service(if at the end of seller).
But if u include all this than these kind of threads will become more common with someone sayin he gave me a false rating. So i guess there is no right solution to the problem
@OP i think now u should just let go of the product(wrong on my part to say this), i know it was ur hard earned money and it is very difficult to let it go. Now lookin at ur situation there is no option left for u. From what i see no one will go over to that guys(seller) place and force him to give u the product. No use bannin him as it is very easy to create another id and start sellin stuff. So the only thing is that u have created this thread and helped the other who were/would deal not to do so.
Moreover ur patience is very commendable as u waited for more than a year to create this thread... BRAVO for that.
Sorry if i seem a bit rude but that the fact. SORRY again
But if u include all this than these kind of threads will become more common with someone sayin he gave me a false rating. So i guess there is no right solution to the problem
@OP i think now u should just let go of the product(wrong on my part to say this), i know it was ur hard earned money and it is very difficult to let it go. Now lookin at ur situation there is no option left for u. From what i see no one will go over to that guys(seller) place and force him to give u the product. No use bannin him as it is very easy to create another id and start sellin stuff. So the only thing is that u have created this thread and helped the other who were/would deal not to do so.
Moreover ur patience is very commendable as u waited for more than a year to create this thread... BRAVO for that.
Sorry if i seem a bit rude but that the fact. SORRY again
Well, I'm not saying that newbies cannot be trusted, but as he/she is new here we can't know how much he/she is trusted.
And this can't be denied that many members join TE just for FS threads, for selling second hand goods. I'm not saying they should be blocked in whole Market Section, but they should not be allowed to sell anything here before spending some quality time.
And as this is not a e-commerce site, it's not feasible to add something like paisapay or so, so the only option we have is to achieve these through rules.
And I think TE should grow as an community and technology forum not as like "Chalo wahaan dealers acche deal dete hain" or "You know, we can sell 2nd hand products there easily".
And the first thing that should be done is to add this seller's name in http://www.techenclave.com/members-market/list-fraudulent-members-please-check-before-123324.html
And yes iTrader rating should be modified to something like as @lida suggested.
And this can't be denied that many members join TE just for FS threads, for selling second hand goods. I'm not saying they should be blocked in whole Market Section, but they should not be allowed to sell anything here before spending some quality time.
And as this is not a e-commerce site, it's not feasible to add something like paisapay or so, so the only option we have is to achieve these through rules.
And I think TE should grow as an community and technology forum not as like "Chalo wahaan dealers acche deal dete hain" or "You know, we can sell 2nd hand products there easily".
And the first thing that should be done is to add this seller's name in http://www.techenclave.com/members-market/list-fraudulent-members-please-check-before-123324.html
And yes iTrader rating should be modified to something like as @lida suggested.
@TE Members : Thanks for sharing your thought and showing Interest.
@ m-jeri: Thanks for changing the Track of the Thread to its basic aim.
@Lida: Yes I agree with you, now i don't thing anything more can be done. But atleast with this Feedback Thread i hope all the other TE members would be alerted to deal with him in future.
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Well as per our deal the Processor, Mobo and the other RAM is working fine without any probs. Just the Mobo had to be replaced due to heating issue and No display.
But i don't know why he did like this as this cheat must have been proved to be very shameful to him.At this instance as well i was ready to co-operate with him if his intentions were good. But GOD knows what is/was in his mind.
@ m-jeri: Thanks for changing the Track of the Thread to its basic aim.
@Lida: Yes I agree with you, now i don't thing anything more can be done. But atleast with this Feedback Thread i hope all the other TE members would be alerted to deal with him in future.
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Well as per our deal the Processor, Mobo and the other RAM is working fine without any probs. Just the Mobo had to be replaced due to heating issue and No display.
But i don't know why he did like this as this cheat must have been proved to be very shameful to him.At this instance as well i was ready to co-operate with him if his intentions were good. But GOD knows what is/was in his mind.
The concerned member has not been online @ TE since 22 December. Until he posts some sort of a reply or clarification or compromise, we will have to wait. That does not mean for an indefinite time, but let us give him some time to respond barring which we can add his name to the blacklist. He has been contacted by mods through PM and email, so let us just wait.
1. As posted by someone already, mods do not have the permissions to change the backend, including iTrader mods and other stuff. We will have to wait for the admins for that.
2. No, TE cannot have paisapay or an escrow system.
3. Restriction to market section on the basis of time, post count, etc. have been tried previously, and found to be useless. A member who has joined just to scam will find a way to overcome all restrictions and make use of a loophole. It is better this way that the markets are open to all. It will be the concerned members' prerogative to work out on some reasonable methods to establish trust. For eg.:
- When you are dealing with a new member, insist on paying or getting paid only 50% of the amount before shipping and the rest once the product reaches the buyer.
- Put it up on ebay for sale. Obviously it will cost more, but that is a compromise until someone gets more iTrader points and becomes trusted enough.
4. Make use of the current iTrader system to its maximum use. If you are not satisfied with any part of the deal, mention it in the remarks column. Why does everyone who gives a positive rating write "Awesome seller. Excellent deal.. " etc. in the remarks column? I rarely see someone giving a positive rating AND mentioning "Deal was good but seller shipped it late" or "Seller not as communicative as expected" etc.. Either it is 'positive and all super', or 'negative and ban this member'. It has always been the extreme either way. If you are worried about revenge ratings, rest assured that mods will remove any such rating.
5. iTrader ratings are not just numbers. While people see the number of ratings and % of positive deals someone has, I doubt if many of them take the pains to go through the remarks. Please click on the iTrader points and see the remarks given by previous members. Of course, for this to be effective, what I mentioned in the previous point has to be followed.
1. As posted by someone already, mods do not have the permissions to change the backend, including iTrader mods and other stuff. We will have to wait for the admins for that.
2. No, TE cannot have paisapay or an escrow system.
3. Restriction to market section on the basis of time, post count, etc. have been tried previously, and found to be useless. A member who has joined just to scam will find a way to overcome all restrictions and make use of a loophole. It is better this way that the markets are open to all. It will be the concerned members' prerogative to work out on some reasonable methods to establish trust. For eg.:
- When you are dealing with a new member, insist on paying or getting paid only 50% of the amount before shipping and the rest once the product reaches the buyer.
- Put it up on ebay for sale. Obviously it will cost more, but that is a compromise until someone gets more iTrader points and becomes trusted enough.
4. Make use of the current iTrader system to its maximum use. If you are not satisfied with any part of the deal, mention it in the remarks column. Why does everyone who gives a positive rating write "Awesome seller. Excellent deal.. " etc. in the remarks column? I rarely see someone giving a positive rating AND mentioning "Deal was good but seller shipped it late" or "Seller not as communicative as expected" etc.. Either it is 'positive and all super', or 'negative and ban this member'. It has always been the extreme either way. If you are worried about revenge ratings, rest assured that mods will remove any such rating.
5. iTrader ratings are not just numbers. While people see the number of ratings and % of positive deals someone has, I doubt if many of them take the pains to go through the remarks. Please click on the iTrader points and see the remarks given by previous members. Of course, for this to be effective, what I mentioned in the previous point has to be followed.
logistopath said:
Thanks for taking this step.
Ya sorry, I realised that later.
Well, that's a great idea. In this way newbies can gain trust.
+1 I really support you here, I rarely see members throwing "Neutral" rating, they should make use of it.
Well, but ADMINS can really consider making the iTrader system much better, like adding "Product As Described", "Packaging", "Shipping", "Response from the seller" as already mentioned by a member in previous post like something which is already on mouthshut.
I think thts the point Logistopath was trying to make, you don't really need such a deep iTrader rating system, just use the remarks section. A positive rating coupled with some neutral/negative remarks will give a much better & personal view of the seller/buyer than maybe a couple of radio buttons with fixed choices. As has been said many times before, there is no way to make the marketplace fraud proof. Members have to use their own good judgment and should be responsible enough to leave realistic iTrader ratings which should be helpful to future buyers. And as has been made clear, revenge ratings will be taken care of by the mods anyway.krishnandu said:
agupta02 said:
That would be good only if poeple did not have a very high tendency to please the seller. Even if the deal goes bad people still leave a positive feedback as in the case of the OP, do i really think that some one will give share their experience with the dealer. they will think as long my issue is resolved who cares if he gets a positive feedback or negative.
Regarding the revenge rating: Who can decide whether it is a revenge or a ligit rating??? that makes no sense and rating thing will fail and u will see more threads created everday arguing whether the rating given was right or wrong.
So the only possible thing is make the itrader more deep and than let the buyer and seller discuss it on that only by posting their justifing their actions. than the MODS can decide if the rating is accurate or not.
Otherwise this forum will become a joint for just arguments and market threads and people will start dropping out.
This used be a very good forum with proper tech informaton but now all i can see after loggin in is FS, WTB, and GO nothin much... am not sayin ban them or stop them but lets just concentrate on saring information and discussing new techs.
Whoa..
Sorry, I had been on a vacation.. Never saw all of this coming..
I just got done, reading your inbox messages. The point is, I as far as I remember, I had couriered you twice i.e first with the stuff that you took via me and the second time with the bill which took me another 100 bucks, and I never really asked you for that anyway.
Talking bout the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up, what he told me was, that the RAM's were damaged physically and won't be replaceable. I did bring that to your notice and never got a reply back from you for the next couple of months.
Suddenly after 2 months, you bring up the topic again, get my RAM's replaced. :S
tell me one thing, both the RAM's were sent to you with the proper screenshot of them, in the working condition? (check the link to the sale thread)
I sent 'em to you.. after a few days you message me, it's not working. How is that my fault dude? When I gave 'em to you, it was working and I have a proof of that.. I own an i7 machine and have done decent deals before/after this deal with you, which basically means I won't cheat someone for some 500 bucks.. Point is, you damaged the RAM's physically or whatever it maybe and I'm not aware of it.. Still, I tried to get it changed for you, but the dealer just told me a no.. you've been messaging me again n again on my old msn last year and through out I've been telling you it's not bloody possible. And now you create this thread with all sorts of inbox messages and none from the IM's we had.. nice! I really don't have anything to say regarding this matter anymore.. You're making it funnier for yourself.
Another thing the dealer told me was, "the guy whom you sold it to, probably tried to overclock it or whatever which ended up damaging the RAM / or it's a physical damage, as per the company. Bottom line is, the company's said that the customer's responsible for the RAM failure and it won't be replaced"
^ same thing was told to you 10x times on msn.. and you just don't seem to get that mate..
Sorry, I had been on a vacation.. Never saw all of this coming..
I just got done, reading your inbox messages. The point is, I as far as I remember, I had couriered you twice i.e first with the stuff that you took via me and the second time with the bill which took me another 100 bucks, and I never really asked you for that anyway.
Talking bout the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up, what he told me was, that the RAM's were damaged physically and won't be replaceable. I did bring that to your notice and never got a reply back from you for the next couple of months.
Suddenly after 2 months, you bring up the topic again, get my RAM's replaced. :S
tell me one thing, both the RAM's were sent to you with the proper screenshot of them, in the working condition? (check the link to the sale thread)
I sent 'em to you.. after a few days you message me, it's not working. How is that my fault dude? When I gave 'em to you, it was working and I have a proof of that.. I own an i7 machine and have done decent deals before/after this deal with you, which basically means I won't cheat someone for some 500 bucks.. Point is, you damaged the RAM's physically or whatever it maybe and I'm not aware of it.. Still, I tried to get it changed for you, but the dealer just told me a no.. you've been messaging me again n again on my old msn last year and through out I've been telling you it's not bloody possible. And now you create this thread with all sorts of inbox messages and none from the IM's we had.. nice! I really don't have anything to say regarding this matter anymore.. You're making it funnier for yourself.
Another thing the dealer told me was, "the guy whom you sold it to, probably tried to overclock it or whatever which ended up damaging the RAM / or it's a physical damage, as per the company. Bottom line is, the company's said that the customer's responsible for the RAM failure and it won't be replaced"
^ same thing was told to you 10x times on msn.. and you just don't seem to get that mate..
rajkumar_pb
Explorer
^^ finally u replied back. Man, you have proof for what you said? (say the msn chat logs). That way you can prove yourself....
^ none dude.. like, how many times do we format our pc's? and in the past one year god knows how many times i have done that.. and frankly speaking mate, I wouldn't have even taken the backup of the chat-logs, it wasn't really important and this wasn't that big of an issue as it has been created and laid out on the forum by this guy. It isn't that expensive of an item for me that I'll cheat someone. And if in the first place I'd had known about the character of this guy, I would have rather thrown off the RAM than selling it to him and creating this totally unrequired nuisance on TE. He isn't the only one I have dealt with on this forum.. there were 5-6 more people before this and on many other forums as well where I've had decent deals (inbox me in case you wanna know).. You may ask them, if I've had any problems with packaging or fraud, or stuff like what I've been accused of in this thread apparently.. If I honestly was at fault, I wouldn't have even had taken the courtesy to reply over here.
PS- I did courier this guy twice, once with the product and second time with the Bill (for which I wasn't paid anyway, and neither did this guy had the courtesy to ask me for that..) On top of that, he accuses me of not sending him the Bill, absolutely amazing.
^Looking at that, if you think I'm acting cheap, that's exactly how that guy is acting.. As far as i remember, I had sold him the CPU, Motherboard and RAM as well, out of which only 1 of the 667 RAM was damaged that too at his end, for which he is blaming me now (even though I really tried to get it replaced by going to the place which is actually 30km's one way from my place..)
And also, if the RAM was damaged, the screenshot provided in the SALE thread, wouldn't have said 4GB (2 x 2).. which actually is a proof in itself that the product was in a totally working condition before it was shipped off to him..
PS- I did courier this guy twice, once with the product and second time with the Bill (for which I wasn't paid anyway, and neither did this guy had the courtesy to ask me for that..) On top of that, he accuses me of not sending him the Bill, absolutely amazing.
^Looking at that, if you think I'm acting cheap, that's exactly how that guy is acting.. As far as i remember, I had sold him the CPU, Motherboard and RAM as well, out of which only 1 of the 667 RAM was damaged that too at his end, for which he is blaming me now (even though I really tried to get it replaced by going to the place which is actually 30km's one way from my place..)
And also, if the RAM was damaged, the screenshot provided in the SALE thread, wouldn't have said 4GB (2 x 2).. which actually is a proof in itself that the product was in a totally working condition before it was shipped off to him..
rajkumar_pb
Explorer
^^ Now hard to find who is acting. Let hear the OP's point and seriously @OP, 1year is too bad wait IMO. Now he replied back and please answer the questions. I don't think one will cheat for mere 900rs. No personal offense meant on you dude.
@sickizblank
Where in your thread you shown that both the RAM stick's are working fine? I found a CPU-Z screenshot with the CPU Info only, not the Memory Information...
@sickizblank
Where in your thread you shown that both the RAM stick's are working fine? I found a CPU-Z screenshot with the CPU Info only, not the Memory Information...
OK Atlast He is Back,
My friend in the forum can you put on the evidence which you have stating the second courier you sent. I have never received such a courier. Thus there no question of you asking of courier charges and payment of the same. Now its front in all of us how did he cheated first he does not sent an item then he claims that is already sent and to giving a courtesy for the item never received/sent . But then also i have each and every message/conversation and in each conversation you reverted is been thanked (Refer my starting comments). Show us the proof and i would pay you the complete amount right away. So first think properly before putting on Paper. Also let us know where were the Bills and the CD's at the first courier you sent. If you want to send them you must have already sent them before hand.
The things you are claiming are nowhere as a proof, Dear TE member Plz let me know where is the proof that his 4(2x2) GB is in working condition. Man if you are considering the picture which is displaying two RAM installed then yourself you are making a big mistake as in the CPU-Z screenshot it only gives the details of processor and nothing else AFAIK.
What a liar he is I never had your MSN id to chat with you. If yes then furnish its details But as you know that you do not have such details you just stated that you have formatted the system thus all erased. What type of person are you, It’s a shame that owning a i7 machine is worthless if you have cheated someone. You are blaming me that I have over clocked the Ram, Over clocking is out question first the thing should work and Overclocking is not my way.
TE Members: Are you observing his claims what is mentioned has no evidence what so ever and without any evidence who can judge he is speaking true.
What I mentioned and I putting here I have its complete evidence. I don’t like to claim anything without any point. The cheat is not dependant on the value if the cheat is in millions then it’s a cheat and if it is in penny then it is also a cheat. So don’t ever claim the amount just claim the intensions.
More Blunders: Talking about the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up.
Sorry Man I do not understand English properly, OK TE Member can you just observe my first comments in which I have attached all our conversation and explain me what does his statements convey????
“Replaced ram in my hands now. Wasn't able to collect it as I had gone to mumbai for personal reasons.. It's in my hands right now.. will ship it to you tomorrow. kindly reply back with the appropriate address. sorry for the delays.â€
Your were having the Ram in your Hands, was ready to ship the Ram the another day and then now you are stating that you contacted the dealer after two days so were was your genuinity .Speak what is true we do not want rubbish over here and we are not children that you would make fool off.The courtesy you are proud about is not because you are genuine But its because you want to make more suck kinds of deals over here.
Sorry mates for being rude because if a person cheats and then states that the person who is cheated and who has hold his paitence for a year is a joker then IT HURTS A LOT.
MODS: I would request you to access our Accounts and just let me know had he sent me any message stating the Ram was not replaced and the dealer refused after our last conversation on 09 Nov 2009. Instead i did a follow up on 29 Nov 2009 about Ram not received as stated in my next post.
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sickizblank : Talking bout the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up, what he told me was, that the RAM's were damaged physically and won't be replaceable. I did bring that to your notice and never got a reply back from you for the next couple of months.
THEN WHAT DOES THIS CONVERSATION CONVEY:
Replaced ram in my hands now. Wasn't able to collect it as I had gone to mumbai for personal reasons.. It's in my hands right now.. will ship it to you tomorrow. kindly reply back with the appropriate address. sorry for the delays.
For the very same reason I had been inactive on the forum as well. Read all your messages today..[/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
My friend in the forum can you put on the evidence which you have stating the second courier you sent. I have never received such a courier. Thus there no question of you asking of courier charges and payment of the same. Now its front in all of us how did he cheated first he does not sent an item then he claims that is already sent and to giving a courtesy for the item never received/sent . But then also i have each and every message/conversation and in each conversation you reverted is been thanked (Refer my starting comments). Show us the proof and i would pay you the complete amount right away. So first think properly before putting on Paper. Also let us know where were the Bills and the CD's at the first courier you sent. If you want to send them you must have already sent them before hand.
The things you are claiming are nowhere as a proof, Dear TE member Plz let me know where is the proof that his 4(2x2) GB is in working condition. Man if you are considering the picture which is displaying two RAM installed then yourself you are making a big mistake as in the CPU-Z screenshot it only gives the details of processor and nothing else AFAIK.
What a liar he is I never had your MSN id to chat with you. If yes then furnish its details But as you know that you do not have such details you just stated that you have formatted the system thus all erased. What type of person are you, It’s a shame that owning a i7 machine is worthless if you have cheated someone. You are blaming me that I have over clocked the Ram, Over clocking is out question first the thing should work and Overclocking is not my way.
TE Members: Are you observing his claims what is mentioned has no evidence what so ever and without any evidence who can judge he is speaking true.
What I mentioned and I putting here I have its complete evidence. I don’t like to claim anything without any point. The cheat is not dependant on the value if the cheat is in millions then it’s a cheat and if it is in penny then it is also a cheat. So don’t ever claim the amount just claim the intensions.
More Blunders: Talking about the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up.
Sorry Man I do not understand English properly, OK TE Member can you just observe my first comments in which I have attached all our conversation and explain me what does his statements convey????
“Replaced ram in my hands now. Wasn't able to collect it as I had gone to mumbai for personal reasons.. It's in my hands right now.. will ship it to you tomorrow. kindly reply back with the appropriate address. sorry for the delays.â€
Your were having the Ram in your Hands, was ready to ship the Ram the another day and then now you are stating that you contacted the dealer after two days so were was your genuinity .Speak what is true we do not want rubbish over here and we are not children that you would make fool off.The courtesy you are proud about is not because you are genuine But its because you want to make more suck kinds of deals over here.
Sorry mates for being rude because if a person cheats and then states that the person who is cheated and who has hold his paitence for a year is a joker then IT HURTS A LOT.
MODS: I would request you to access our Accounts and just let me know had he sent me any message stating the Ram was not replaced and the dealer refused after our last conversation on 09 Nov 2009. Instead i did a follow up on 29 Nov 2009 about Ram not received as stated in my next post.
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sickizblank : Talking bout the RAM replacement thing, what I meant was, it'll be in my hands in a day or two ('cause that's what the dealer told me) and the next day when I called him up, what he told me was, that the RAM's were damaged physically and won't be replaceable. I did bring that to your notice and never got a reply back from you for the next couple of months.
THEN WHAT DOES THIS CONVERSATION CONVEY:
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]coolstone0211 said:Hey Vinay,
I called up your mobile But the line was cut in between while talking. I tried again and it was switched off. I dont know what is the reason behind this. This is the LAST Reminder for my RAM replacement as per the TRAILING mails.
If i would not receive any reply from your side, I have to take this to public(MODS). So it is my request to give me the answer and send back my Replaced Ram as per your trail mail. I am in need the Ram back urgently.Atleast revert if your are in some trouble.
cOOlstOne
[quote name='coolstone0211']Hey Vinay,
Not received RAM yet. What Happened ???
I am stuck up.Plz reply at earliest.
[quote name='coolstone0211']Hi,
Got No Response!!!. What Happened ???
Revert at earliest.
[quote name='coolstone0211']Hey Vinay,
Thanks for the support!!!.
Its OK friend.Please send the Ram back as soon as possible.Please do send the Original Bill of Q6600 Quad Core Processor, 780i Motherboard and Ram(which were been purchased from you earlier) as it would be very useful for replacement and also as proof of ownership. Dont worry about the other mentioned products i would be using the bill just for the items purchased by me from you "Be rest Assured".
My proper Address Details ::::::::
Zufar Farook Suglatwala
704.Moin Apartment,
Muslim Society,
Opp. Crossword,
Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad-380009.
Gujarat,
India.
Ph. 07926447776
Mob. 9099041155/9879425768
Let me know the Courier POD no.
Regards,
cOOlstOne
[quote name='sickizblank'][quote name='coolstone0211']REMINDER : 3
Reply is must.
[quote name='coolstone0211']REMINDER : 2
[quote name='coolstone0211']Hey Friend,
I have not received any reply from your side.Let me know the status.
Regards,
cOOlstOne
[quote name='sickizblank']Sorry for no response.
I have managed to give it back to him, and he'll get it RMA'ed most probably by Tuesday. So i'll have it with me on Wednesday and will ship it the very same day.
Will let you know the expenses for Shipping along with the Receipt.
The delays happened because the guy from whom I had purchased my stuff wasn't in Delhi for around a month. He's come back last night and I gave him the RAM today.(Will update as soon as I get one)
Thanks.
Replaced ram in my hands now. Wasn't able to collect it as I had gone to mumbai for personal reasons.. It's in my hands right now.. will ship it to you tomorrow. kindly reply back with the appropriate address. sorry for the delays.
For the very same reason I had been inactive on the forum as well. Read all your messages today..[/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Sucks, you're still checking private messages and trying to prove your point. It really wouldn't matter to be honest. As if I've denied I haven't sent you the messages?
The point is, I had clearly IM'd you, it won't be possible, still I was trying to replace. Basically, I had already brought it to your attention that the replacement won't just be possible.. And THAT IS WHERE YOU DIDN'T REPLY ME. Now you are on about showing me all sort's of Private Messages we've had during that time when I was trying to GET IT REPLACED and trying to prove me wrong. Honestly mate, get a life. It wouldn't really hold any meaning me cheating you for mere 500 bucks when I've sold you stuff worth 20 grands..
And yeah, I also stop responding 'cause, I had clearly IM'd and mentioned it to you, that it won't just be getting replaced and you just didn't want to understand that.. Not my fault if you were in a state of shock or whatever.
Showing private messages won't just prove me wrong, so you're just wasting your time there by doing all that. And REMINDERS like what? When I had clearly told you, it won't be possible, still I'll try.. You never replied back. And then you send me reminders, and obviously I'd assume, you were fine with it. YOU'RE FAULT. I'm not liable for that. I'm not just gonna buy you new ram's and ship it to you again, just 'cause of the fact you behave dyslexic.
Also, do not mix up the CD's not being sent with the BILL not being sent. CD's weren't sent to you 'cause I never had them. As for the bill, I forgot to ship it to you in the first courier and I had done that in the second one. I mean how much would you LIE for 500 bucks mate.. HOW MUCH?!
You're doing all this just 'cause I stopped responding to your mails after clearly IM'ing you that it won't just be possible?
Great, go ahead. Keep doing it. Keep getting more inbox messages and try to prove your silly point. From the inside, you know, who's wrong..
The point is, I had clearly IM'd you, it won't be possible, still I was trying to replace. Basically, I had already brought it to your attention that the replacement won't just be possible.. And THAT IS WHERE YOU DIDN'T REPLY ME. Now you are on about showing me all sort's of Private Messages we've had during that time when I was trying to GET IT REPLACED and trying to prove me wrong. Honestly mate, get a life. It wouldn't really hold any meaning me cheating you for mere 500 bucks when I've sold you stuff worth 20 grands..
And yeah, I also stop responding 'cause, I had clearly IM'd and mentioned it to you, that it won't just be getting replaced and you just didn't want to understand that.. Not my fault if you were in a state of shock or whatever.
Showing private messages won't just prove me wrong, so you're just wasting your time there by doing all that. And REMINDERS like what? When I had clearly told you, it won't be possible, still I'll try.. You never replied back. And then you send me reminders, and obviously I'd assume, you were fine with it. YOU'RE FAULT. I'm not liable for that. I'm not just gonna buy you new ram's and ship it to you again, just 'cause of the fact you behave dyslexic.
Also, do not mix up the CD's not being sent with the BILL not being sent. CD's weren't sent to you 'cause I never had them. As for the bill, I forgot to ship it to you in the first courier and I had done that in the second one. I mean how much would you LIE for 500 bucks mate.. HOW MUCH?!
You're doing all this just 'cause I stopped responding to your mails after clearly IM'ing you that it won't just be possible?
Great, go ahead. Keep doing it. Keep getting more inbox messages and try to prove your silly point. From the inside, you know, who's wrong..
rajkumar_pb
Explorer
^^ He's got the point.
What you say for that and why u waited for this long to open a thread, when u feel you've cheated a way back before?
What you say for that and why u waited for this long to open a thread, when u feel you've cheated a way back before?
^ exactly what I meant man.
I agree I didn't respond at times due to the simple fact that this guy was frustrating me to the core EVEN AFTER me clearly trying my very best and making him clear that it wouldn't be possible 'cause the dealer has directly refused.. I couldn't do anything about it.. He still sent me these INBOX MESSAGES he is showing here and then trying to prove me a CHEAT. Even after I knew the damage has been done by him cause my packaging has been pretty good, ALWAYS! (check my market rating section..) and I'm more than confident that the RAM wasn't damaged during the transit (and the probability of 1 RAM getting damaged is even LESS). So it is pretty obvious it is he who did it.. still I tried my very best to get 'em replaced.. and it didn't just happen..
Now that he is so frustrated regarding that, all of a sudden, he decides to put all the blame on me, and comes up with this plan of opening a new thread against me, which I frankly don't find amusing!
Like come on, honestly speaking, ASSUME that I had to cheat.. why in the bloody hell would I cheat you for 500 bucks when I'm selling stuff to you with AMAZING packing which is worth more than 20 grands.. It just sounds so stupid dude..
I agree I didn't respond at times due to the simple fact that this guy was frustrating me to the core EVEN AFTER me clearly trying my very best and making him clear that it wouldn't be possible 'cause the dealer has directly refused.. I couldn't do anything about it.. He still sent me these INBOX MESSAGES he is showing here and then trying to prove me a CHEAT. Even after I knew the damage has been done by him cause my packaging has been pretty good, ALWAYS! (check my market rating section..) and I'm more than confident that the RAM wasn't damaged during the transit (and the probability of 1 RAM getting damaged is even LESS). So it is pretty obvious it is he who did it.. still I tried my very best to get 'em replaced.. and it didn't just happen..
Now that he is so frustrated regarding that, all of a sudden, he decides to put all the blame on me, and comes up with this plan of opening a new thread against me, which I frankly don't find amusing!
Like come on, honestly speaking, ASSUME that I had to cheat.. why in the bloody hell would I cheat you for 500 bucks when I'm selling stuff to you with AMAZING packing which is worth more than 20 grands.. It just sounds so stupid dude..
I don't Know Why you did this and with what intension that is the reason i have opened this thread.You mentioned that you have already clearly mention to me that the dealer has refused to replace the Ram - When did you send me that message before 21 Dec 2010, do you have any explaination for that. The Messages attached does not show any of your reply's after 09 Nov 2009 which gave the status that the Ram is in your hands and you are going to ship the same.You also never returned the Damage Ram as well.All the follow-up messages which were attached are of a time span of 1-2 weeks. You only replied me a year after ie on 21 Dec 2010. I had almost forgotten about this incedent But when you tried to cover your self by pretending that the Ram was been damaged at my part I opened this thread for Justice. Had i ever complained for the remaining items of the deal, WHY WHY WHY as they were working fine. i compalined only for the Ram which was already faulty when received and was not working at all.
First the person does not reply to any messages sent since a long time and then saying He is getting frustrated with the mails. Your intentions are to Cheat someone and then also you should not be blamed for. WOW that's GREAT!!! Keep it Up.
First the person does not reply to any messages sent since a long time and then saying He is getting frustrated with the mails. Your intentions are to Cheat someone and then also you should not be blamed for. WOW that's GREAT!!! Keep it Up.
rajkumar_pb
Explorer
coolstone0211 said:
^^ Well, then you should've started this thread immediately after this issue. It's your mistake that you waited for this long.
@sickizblank
Do you have any proof that both the RAM were working fine? I didn't find any in your market thread. Show us the proof to prove your trustworthiness. Simple as it is.
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