Indian Air Force Reportedly Issues Security Warning Against Xiaomi Products

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Spacescreamer said:
Afaik, Chinese military sabotaged BSNL's base station using HUAWEI's equipment. After such a major security breach, these chinese companies shouldnt have been allowed to flourish unchecked.

ZTE and HUAWEI have been banned in USA long ago.
It was pretty surprising that these brands were allowed here. If we do not have an active/capable dept for detecting the covert operations/capabilities of those firms, they should have taken cue from the other govts.
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Then we should have never allowed Chinese equipment specially for DRDO and defense / armed forces' projects from day 1. We have never been chummy with China since the Nehru-fiasco happened in the 60's and we let in Tibetans by the boat-load. US of A banning anything in the world on national soil is of not importance, cause they can industriously and ingeniously harness their own acumen to do the same, or beckon their vassal state, Israel to supply the same.

It is not surprising that Chinese companies were allowed to operate with a stigma (I would call it paranoia) attached of: undermining and covert/clandestine operational frameworks being set; because India does not care. There is absolutely no governance, proactive approach, and controllership for these matters, or matter of fact any aspect which is operated by the government. India is a reactive nation. IAF (and I would call them dumb-f**** for this), should have raised this flag eons ago when rapid advancements were being made and poster boys like Bharti Mittal (and A.Raja types), along with our economic gurus -were- harping India as the fastest telecommunications growth entity. We could do nothing to the Union Carbide which was livid and proven for misconduct and malpractices, what do you aspect we can do for a phenomena seeded from the cloak-and-dagger. You know what India is: If you have read MAD comics, they always had a section in between, SPY vs. SPY, we are the one who is always screwed over, but realize is after it is done with....!
 
Our options depend only on the choice of by whom we want to be spied with The Chinese or the American Allies . Back doors are difficult to detect in telecom hardware hence the concern on chinese companies. But the point is that backdooring and spying has been proven many times on American stuff and still unproven on the chinese even with american and japanese engineers trying for it.
 
Definitely a paid news,,,don't people know that most of our servers and modems are already made by zte and huawei??
stupid rable rousers
 
asingh said:
Then we should have never allowed Chinese equipment specially for DRDO and defense / armed forces' projects from day 1. We have never been chummy with China since the Nehru-fiasco happened in the 60's and we let in Tibetans by the boat-load. US of A banning anything in the world on national soil is of not importance, cause they can industriously and ingeniously harness their own acumen to do the same, or beckon their vassal state, Israel to supply the same.

It is not surprising that Chinese companies were allowed to operate with a stigma (I would call it paranoia) attached of: undermining and covert/clandestine operational frameworks being set; because India does not care. There is absolutely no governance, proactive approach, and controllership for these matters, or matter of fact any aspect which is operated by the government. India is a reactive nation. IAF (and I would call them dumb-f**** for this), should have raised this flag eons ago when rapid advancements were being made and poster boys like Bharti Mittal (and A.Raja types), along with our economic gurus -were- harping India as the fastest telecommunications growth entity. We could do nothing to the Union Carbide which was livid and proven for misconduct and malpractices, what do you aspect we can do for a phenomena seeded from the cloak-and-dagger. You know what India is: If you have read MAD comics, they always had a section in between, SPY vs. SPY, we are the one who is always screwed over, but realize is after it is done with....!
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Drdo cannot start making servers on its own,,if private parties don't make equipment then whats the option??
BEL??
MTNL??

All are shyte and make equipment under transfer of technology.
 
Spacescreamer said:
It is true that the chinese cheap products have become indispensable in today's times, but atleast there should be more awareness among people. Using non chinese products at critical places and wherever possible should be something which can be looked into.

I dont know how much viable it will be, but say instead of picking up chinese products for their cheapness, going in for non shady companies should be a natural thought process. Something like D Link instead of a Huawei should be preferred?
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There is nothing non chinese left now,,almost all hi tech components are made there and they are of all grades,,,,,give them money and get the thing.
We need to start investing in manufacturing big time otherwise the services won't sustain the economy for long time.[DOUBLEPOST=1414675339][/DOUBLEPOST]Indian govt has already started working on a completely india based email service with servers placed here only.It will probably debut next year.

Also we need fab plants to make chips asap,,,drdo makes lowly 65 nm chips,,,,,,the latest iphone has already gone to 20 nm and next year intel will move to 14 nm.

The worst part is we cannot even mass produce these 65 nm chips
 
Spacescreamer said:
^ The gist of my arguement was that getting chinese OEM stuff is different thing compared to outsourced stuff.
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The answer was that we have 0 option.
Cisco based solutions are too costly for us.

The only option is to make our own servers.At the moment we cannot do it.
 
sardar17 said:
Drdo cannot start making servers on its own,,if private parties don't make equipment then whats the option??
BEL??
MTNL??

All are shyte and make equipment under transfer of technology.
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I thought it was telecom equipment we were talking about. The routers / switches / node arrays.
 
asingh said:
I thought it was telecom equipment we were talking about. The routers / switches / node arrays.
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Servers and modems would come under telecom equipment only.
The fact of the matter is we are importing almost everything of any reasonable tech
 
sardar17 said:
Servers and modems would come under telecom equipment only.
The fact of the matter is we are importing almost everything of any reasonable tech
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I understand. But it would be easier to manufacture the over head equipment vs. full blown servers. It could be a starting point.
 
After gaining immense popularity in India in a short time, Xiaomi has come under fire regarding security issues and concerns over user data being sent to China. The relations between the two countries aren't 100% peachy, so it's no wonder organizations such as the IAF or the Indian Air Force are concerned about the data being used to spy upon Indians.
Moreover, the claim of the data being sent to Chinese servers was recently confirmed by F-Secure, especially concerning the budget Redmi 1S that was recently launched in India for around $98, causing the IAF to outright ask its personnel and their families to stop buying and using the phone.

Xiaomi has now come out and released a statement regarding the privacy concerns surrounding its phones. The statement makes five key points.

First, the Xiaomi services are opt-in and won't activate without the user permission.

Second, Xiaomi does not collect user data without the explicit permission of the user. The users can choose to disable these services later if they want, which deletes their data.

Third, all data is heavily encrypted and securely stored. Not even Xiaomi employees can decrypt the data even if they get access to the hard drives.

Fourth, Xiaomi is moving data of Indian users outside of Beijing data centers to Amazon AWS data centers in Singapore and the USA. The migration was started earlier this year, parts of which will be finished by the end of October and all of it by the end of 2014. In 2015, Xiaomi will set up a data center in India for its Indian users.

Fifth, Xiaomi claims to have addressed the concerns raised by F-Secure regarding the Redmi 1S, which F-Secure has directly acknowledged four days later.

Hugo Barra also posted about the matter on Google+ and talked about the migration of data from servers outside of China and eventually to India.

Xiaomi hopes this should put all the concerns to rest. Other than the government authorities, most consumers weren't really concerned anyway, but this should take care of the remaining concerns.

Source: GSMArena

I think this is enough those who concerned about security. They are trying hard for their reputation.
 
asingh said:
I understand. But it would be easier to manufacture the over head equipment vs. full blown servers. It could be a starting point.
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No doubt brother but it needs stupendous amounts of private investments and we are not doing even a fraction of it.
We need to privatise the public behemoths and pump in the money to secure future.

For the love of god we cannot even manufacture a small smartphone chip even when design is freely available as we have no fab machines:banghead:
 
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This should only be forced towards defense personnel. Chinese government is not interested in the general public data.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
much worse alternative is that IAF is so incompetent and slow to react that they caught up on a news report that was released nearly 3 months ago and acting on it now without even noticing the follow up.
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Advisory against xiaomi, wechat etc. is 4-5 months old. I was notified about this in the month of june or july.
 
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