CPU/Mobo Intel SANDY BRIDGE - Reviewed

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Hmmm... Evolutionary, not as dramatic as the change from Core 2 to Core i... But performance improvement nonetheless... Intel is trying to kill off the competition in the HTPC market with the introduction of better embedded GPU's...

The only thing that's worrisome is the fact that only the k series can be OC'd, and FSB based OC'ing is dead for all purposes considering 3 MHz was the limit these guys could overclock... I just hope that Intel doesn't price the k series counterparts too costly as compared to the mainstream versions:no::no:... What will happen to us Budget overclockers then???? Fingers crossed .... :down:
 
January, Lool i was just gonna post the link to the review in ENGLISH...

Hope the review isn't brought down by tomorrow.

Nothing cool, seriously, whats the point of a GPU+CPU when the 4 core CPUs are as costly as 450$???

I mean imagine someone buying a 450$ CPU and not spending about the same amount on a GPU...
 
st.john said:
hmmm... Evolutionary, not as dramatic as the change from core 2 to core i... But performance improvement nonetheless... Intel is trying to kill off the competition in the htpc market with the introduction of better embedded gpu's...

The only thing that's worrisome is the fact that only the k series can be oc'd, and fsb based oc'ing is dead for all purposes considering 3 mhz was the limit these guys could overclock... I just hope that intel doesn't price the k series counterparts too costly as compared to the mainstream versions:no::no:... What will happen to us budget overclockers then???? Fingers crossed .... :down:
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amd ? :)
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DarkAngel said:
amd ? :)

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Wouldn't call myself an Intel fanboy but for the last maybe 3 to 4 years AMD's proccy's have been disappointing... AMD maybe able to provide better clock speeds/more cores at the same price point but if we look at one specific price point (I am not talking about budget Athlon's here) the Intel's beat AMD... eg: 1090T vs i7 920/i7 860, 1055T vs i7 750... I maybe wrong here as my knowledge is limited to reviews read at various websites...

I intend to build a i7 920 equivalent rig next year so frankly speaking I have my hopes pinned on either having sane prices for the K series or Bulldozer being as good as AMD says it is... But then AMD has this nasty habit of not really living up to the hype it creates and Intel has this habit of delivering Proccy's that on base Clock look tiny but OC like crazy (eg: i3 540)....

Anyways lets see what lies ahead and hope for the best because at the end it is us who stand to benefit...
 
And I was thinking Intel was launching 875k to compete with unlocked multiplier Phenoms.It was only a step to implement this draconian rule of preventing budget-conscious overclockers from oc'ing a cpu and forcing them to buy unlocked k series.maybe Intel plans to charge extra at a later stage to unlock the multipliers on some mainstream Sandy Bridge CPUs like the new gimmick on the g9650 unleashed by Intel(all hail binning!!!!!phenom ii x2 55 be owners with unlocked cores should do this the most :D)

Intel wants to charge $50 to unlock stuff your CPU can already do -- Engadget
 
It's a little worrisome for the budget overclockers, but I'm liking SB so far. If I get slightly better performance at $300 pricepoint (compared to current Core i processors at the same price) along with miles better power efficiency, I'm all for it. I'm due upgrade and I think it's better to wait for SB than to invest in current LGA1156 platform. I used to upgrade almost every year (complete system overhaul) but this is the first time I used my Q6600+P35 rig for almost 3 years now. I would like to repeat that with next upgrade. :)
 
St.John said:
Wouldn't call myself an Intel fanboy but for the last maybe 3 to 4 years AMD's proccy's have been disappointing... AMD maybe able to provide better clock speeds/more cores at the same price point but if we look at one specific price point (I am not talking about budget Athlon's here) the Intel's beat AMD... eg: 1090T vs i7 920/i7 860, 1055T vs i7 750... I maybe wrong here as my knowledge is limited to reviews read at various websites...

I intend to build a i7 920 equivalent rig next year so frankly speaking I have my hopes pinned on either having sane prices for the K series or Bulldozer being as good as AMD says it is... But then AMD has this nasty habit of not really living up to the hype it creates and Intel has this habit of delivering Proccy's that on base Clock look tiny but OC like crazy (eg: i3 540)....

Anyways lets see what lies ahead and hope for the best because at the end it is us who stand to benefit...
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Who says AMD does not deliver the DirectX 11 revolution was spearheaded by them had cards on the market 1 year before Nvidia, plus the Hypertransport Interface ( HT ) used by AMD since 2001 is the basis for Intel's supposedly groundbreaking Quickpath Interface ( QPI )

HyperTransport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intel QuickPath Interconnect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for comparison the Intel i7 920( superseded by the 930 ) is EoL, so is the i5 750 ( 760 ) ~ sheer value for money is still AMD's forte you cannot put an i7 on a sub-10K board ( MSI X58 E PRO ~ 11K ) while you can build a decent multithreading system for 30K AMD Phenom II 1055T + compatible 785G based board :)

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Who says AMD does not deliver the DirectX 11 revolution was spearheaded by them had cards on the market 1 year before Nvidia, plus the Hypertransport Interface ( HT ) used by AMD since 2001 is the basis for Intel's supposedly groundbreaking Quickpath Interface ( QPI )

HyperTransport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intel QuickPath Interconnect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for comparison the Intel i7 920( superseded by the 930 ) is EoL, so is the i5 750 ( 760 ) ~ sheer value for money is still AMD's forte you cannot put an i7 on a sub-10K board ( MSI X58 E PRO ~ 11K ) while you can build a decent multithreading system for 30K AMD Phenom II 1055T + compatible 785G based board :)
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Yeah and as DarkAngel has pointed out AMD Blacks are not too expensive and they have decent margin to overclock with a decent aftermarket solution ( My 965 B.E + Hyper 212+ has done a max of 3.8 GHz with no great change in tempratures )

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-benchmark-mainstream_11.html
 
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"Who says AMD does not deliver the DirectX 11 revolution was spearheaded by them had cards on the market 1 year before Nvidia, plus the Hypertransport Interface ( HT ) used by AMD since 2001 is the basis for Intel's supposedly groundbreaking Quickpath Interface ( QPI )"

Agreed... But that was 2001 and we are discussing Proccy's here... i7 920/930 might be EOL but they do pack enough punch to go loggerheads with the current highest end Phenom Hexa's... And lets not even compare Intel Hexa's with AMD Hexa's... Also AMD is counting upon the Bulldozer architecture which actually pits 2 AMD cores to 1 Intel Core (module vs Core)... Sheer VFM, that argument stands too well for low end Core i3 vs Athlon market but mainstream vfm we really wouldn't want to pitch a 1055T up against i5 760...

Intel Mobo's are costlier but the 30 K price point, well i5 750 + H55/P55 + 4 gb ddr3 + 400 Watt PSU + el cheapo card + 20 " LCD vs 1055 T + AM3+ + 4 GB DDR3 + 400 Watts PSU + 20 " LCD I believe the price difference will not be more that 2~3 grands (correct me if I am wrong)...

"Yeah and as DarkAngel has pointed out AMD Blacks are not too expensive and they have decent margin to overclock with a decent aftermarket solution ( My 965 B.E + Hyper 212+ has done a max of 3.8 GHz with no great change in tempratures )"



Decent yes, but needless to say is the i5 760 a bad overclocker ??

"and for comparison the Intel i7 920( superseded by the 930 ) is EoL"

The EOL argument, stands well when the newer ups the ante over the current set.. In the case of Sandybridge vs Nehalem architecture there are lithography changes from 45nm to 32 nm, better power management but in sheer performance Sandybridge offers about 6~8% more performance... Now that doesn't make the current i5/i7 out of date as yet. Does it??
 
St.John said:
"Who says AMD does not deliver the DirectX 11 revolution was spearheaded by them had cards on the market 1 year before Nvidia, plus the Hypertransport Interface ( HT ) used by AMD since 2001 is the basis for Intel's supposedly groundbreaking Quickpath Interface ( QPI )"

Agreed... But that was 2001 and we are discussing Proccy's here... i7 920/930 might be EOL but they do pack enough punch to go loggerheads with the current highest end Phenom Hexa's... And lets not even compare Intel Hexa's with AMD Hexa's... Also AMD is counting upon the Bulldozer architecture which actually pits 2 AMD cores to 1 Intel Core (module vs Core)... Sheer VFM, that argument stands too well for low end Core i3 vs Athlon market but mainstream vfm we really wouldn't want to pitch a 1055T up against i5 760...

Intel Mobo's are costlier but the 30 K price point, well i5 750 + H55/P55 + 4 gb ddr3 + 400 Watt PSU + el cheapo card + 20 " LCD vs 1055 T + AM3+ + 4 GB DDR3 + 400 Watts PSU + 20 " LCD I believe the price difference will not be more that 2~3 grands (correct me if I am wrong)...

"Yeah and as DarkAngel has pointed out AMD Blacks are not too expensive and they have decent margin to overclock with a decent aftermarket solution ( My 965 B.E + Hyper 212+ has done a max of 3.8 GHz with no great change in tempratures )"


Decent yes, but needless to say is the i5 760 a bad overclocker ??

"and for comparison the Intel i7 920( superseded by the 930 ) is EoL"

The EOL argument, stands well when the newer ups the ante over the current set.. In the case of Sandybridge vs Nehalem architecture there are lithography changes from 45nm to 32 nm, better power management but in sheer performance Sandybridge offers about 6~8% more performance... Now that doesn't make the current i5/i7 out of date as yet. Does it??
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Yeah it was 2001 and AMD was on a rampage, the Athlon series skewered the Intel Pentium 4 and D's ( Netburst ), plus where do you see the so called advantages of using Intel, you should factor the usages too, what do you mean el cheapo cards bro I don't think a Nvidia GT 220 will qualify as a decent gaming setup okay for HTPC,

much better to go for a Propus or Deneb ( 955 B.E. ), more advantages over the i3 series ( yes power consumption is greater ) + HD 5770/5750 will end up with entry level gaming PC under 35K max try doing that with Intel and their so called value offering i3

And the 2001 point is still in factor because Intel did not figure out until 2007 that Memory Controller on die is a better + HyperTransport still outstrips their older Front Side Bus ( FSB ) interface that Intel supported, AMD also inspired Intel to look to integrate the GPU on CPU die by coining their motto and plans under the term ~ " The Future is Fusion " ~ sure they have not got their own CPU-GPU dies out but I still like their policies that they atleast don't extort you to get a meagre 5% upping in performance, they did not overprice the HD 6780 and 6850 neither did they phase out the 57xx series till yet cause they know the 6*** series is a stop gap till the HD 7*** series which will be a new run too the 32nm lithography on a graphics card

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=191 ~ I think in multi thread the 1055T is performing better at single thread it loses out but not by an awesomely imba value, pretty VFM if you are ready to do mostly multithread aaps, Photoshop is biased for Intel, but MAYA is a definite winner on AMD
 
there are lot of threads on Proccies and there reviews......... what about the mother boards..... any good info reviews about them..........???
 
not yet, they havn't released yet that's why, well neither the processors, but I think inpai managed to get some intel board from their sources
 
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