Is Infy a good place only for freshers?
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Thanks for the insights,
I havent got into it, but have interviews planned
though have other offers in hand
Consultant - thats a very respectable designation in my field of work, but didnt realize its viewed so badly at Infy :huh:
I havent got into it, but have interviews planned
though have other offers in hand
Consultant - thats a very respectable designation in my field of work, but didnt realize its viewed so badly at Infy :huh:
uefa_007 said:Consultant huh ?
I had a call from them abt the same . It was the worst way a co. could call you and treat you.
Hi i am so and so from Infosys , am i speaking with "___". I said "yes" before we start off there are few terms and conditions which u have to agree to :
You have to relocate to bangalore - do u agree ? I said yes.
You will have a contract for 6 months - do u agree ? I said i will have to think abt it . Then he said "We always extend contracts at the end of tenure" ! (Super way to add to confidence)
I said "Ok, i need to think abt it and wanted to know the nature of my role and job description."
He bluntly replied : "if you agree to these terms and conditions then "We will let u know about the same during the interview discussions we have""
I was and am still shocked that one of the premier institutes in India call a person with pretty good qualifications and prior work experience and speak this way!
May be i was the exception !
Spectre said:Thanks greenie, rakrules, fundusanju
Yeah, I am currently a consultant and looking for a similar role and grow to expert/architect level in a couple of years (i like technical)
I think its better to look at my other offers
fundusanju - can u brief on what this CRR stuff is, just for info
is it a term of appraisal ratings infy uses
Yes CRR is consolidated Relative Ranking... it used to based on appraisal's only earlier... Now you have compulsory 2 Certifications every year + average working hours over 3 months minimum 9.25 hours, if you satisfy these only then you are eligible for rating 1.
They reduced the number of slots for CRR 1 to half this year, to make sure few people get hikes and promotions.
countrock said:
And if you dont meet the average of 9.25 hours then your leaves will be deducted depending on how many hours you are short of the average.
For a single day minimum number of hours used to be 6.5 hours, but thanks to the rapid attrition they reduced it to 3.5 hours this week.
I dont exactly point out any IT company in particular, but unless you shift companies, its difficult to get a hike.
If you dont kiss a$$, you dont get hikes/promotions/onsite, and they'll find a reason to keep it from you (and while doing so, they even give you silly reasons for it!
eg. "not interacting with other project members often" (what if i want to maintain a professional relationship with my colleagues?)
"there was no scope for you in the project" (then why did you place me in the project in the first place??)
"you have less visibility" (should i run around naked?)
and these reasons are not even mentioned in the policies!
aaand recently some senior colleagues had a meeting, that rumours were being spread about attrition rate and told not to discuss it. and they gave the rate as 11% (at the rate i'm getting "Goodbye" mails, i think that % is laughable)
Oh, and outfoscions, try sending a mail to anyone with the subject "Bidding Adieu". the mail doesnt go through!
@Spectre: If by consultant, you mean on an "on contract" basis, please forget Outfy. i personally know 6 people with tremendous knowledge and whose work was excellent, but whose contracts were not renewed.
Its sad to see them spending crores on grass for a cricket pitch, but cant even spend a few thousands to keep talent.
Edit: people seem to be leaving in $hitloads for Cognizant. but even there, a similar picture seems to be present!
Cognizant Tech Solutions Reviews | Glassdoor.com
@Outfy,: up until 2 years ago, going onsite used to be much easier i hear..
An onsite salary is enough to keep you happy sometimes even if you dont get a hike. But with onsites being restricted like crazy, i dont know how they'll keep employees happy.
If you dont kiss a$$, you dont get hikes/promotions/onsite, and they'll find a reason to keep it from you (and while doing so, they even give you silly reasons for it!
eg. "not interacting with other project members often" (what if i want to maintain a professional relationship with my colleagues?)
"there was no scope for you in the project" (then why did you place me in the project in the first place??)
"you have less visibility" (should i run around naked?)
and these reasons are not even mentioned in the policies!
aaand recently some senior colleagues had a meeting, that rumours were being spread about attrition rate and told not to discuss it. and they gave the rate as 11% (at the rate i'm getting "Goodbye" mails, i think that % is laughable)
Oh, and outfoscions, try sending a mail to anyone with the subject "Bidding Adieu". the mail doesnt go through!
@Spectre: If by consultant, you mean on an "on contract" basis, please forget Outfy. i personally know 6 people with tremendous knowledge and whose work was excellent, but whose contracts were not renewed.
Its sad to see them spending crores on grass for a cricket pitch, but cant even spend a few thousands to keep talent.
Edit: people seem to be leaving in $hitloads for Cognizant. but even there, a similar picture seems to be present!
Cognizant Tech Solutions Reviews | Glassdoor.com
@Outfy,: up until 2 years ago, going onsite used to be much easier i hear..
An onsite salary is enough to keep you happy sometimes even if you dont get a hike. But with onsites being restricted like crazy, i dont know how they'll keep employees happy.
fundusanju said:
Whoa close shave!! Was supposed to join there within 20 days, till my current company gave me a raise & Sr Programmer designation.
Wasn't happy hearing Infy's salary structure from the beginning; almost ~8k deduction per mnth:huh:. Variable pay (which was business dependent) every 3 months, some kinda loyalty pay only after completing 1yr. Was for Infy BPO BTW.
Is the appraisal process so elaborate?
Good thing I stayed here
PS - Do all big companies like CTS, TechM, TCS, Wipro etc have such crappy salary structs? Bloated gross CTC & 60-70% in hand. If this is the case, I think companies like Infy are good only for freshers. What good is quoting incentives (variable pay) in gross CTC when the company is not going to pay it :no:
greenhorn
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eggman, I've been in that guy's shoes, and its not funny. I was out with a few other IT folks on one of the various team bhp meets. When we were talking, I casually mention that i work for outflowsys. And they were like Wow nice lucky dude. And then when the bill came, they tried to push it onto me, the mr outflowsys-rich guy. And I said i couldnt afford on <xyz> rs per month. They nearly choked on their desserts. They worked for lesser known companies, and earned far more. I didnt have to pay much of the bill but that was the first time people took pity on me when they heard my salary :ashamed:
for a fresher, i guess outflowsys is still better, My sis got placed in a outflowsys & accenture, and I'll probably send her to outflowsys, simply because of the training.
Vinchu, I got this from a senior HR's mouth during a candid discussion. outflowsys believes that these buildings and campuses contribute far more to their brand value than competent resources. Non Indian MNC's such as IBM & Accenture already have an international brand value. outflowsys believes the other indian MNC's are below it in the market segment, and compete on value, not quality. So to promote a premium image, they need something. And these buildings are pretty much it. You dont want to start with the floating restaurant story do you
To all those claiming that the story is the same everywhere now, thats the point, outflowsys was supposed to be a company that was supposed to be different. A few years ago, what they used to say about intellect and values were really true.Sadly , not any more. People were loyal. Now with the captain and the first mate jumping ship, You expect loyalty from the rats ?
but that was the first time people took pity on me when they heard my salary :ashamed: for a fresher, i guess outflowsys is still better, My sis got placed in a outflowsys & accenture, and I'll probably send her to outflowsys, simply because of the training.
Vinchu, I got this from a senior HR's mouth during a candid discussion. outflowsys believes that these buildings and campuses contribute far more to their brand value than competent resources. Non Indian MNC's such as IBM & Accenture already have an international brand value. outflowsys believes the other indian MNC's are below it in the market segment, and compete on value, not quality. So to promote a premium image, they need something. And these buildings are pretty much it. You dont want to start with the floating restaurant story do you
To all those claiming that the story is the same everywhere now, thats the point, outflowsys was supposed to be a company that was supposed to be different. A few years ago, what they used to say about intellect and values were really true.Sadly , not any more. People were loyal. Now with the captain and the first mate jumping ship, You expect loyalty from the rats ?
whatsinaname
Skilled
What pay packages do they offer for freshers through campus placements? I know that the package depends on the college/student, but do you have a general idea of the range? Also, what they reveal during placements would be CTC, correct? Realistically, what can a fresher expect to take home per month?
greenhorn
Patron
When I joined, you could ping/email the man himself But then when they introduced the exit policy for training, and some guy emailed the unethicality of it to him, the names of the head honchos were removed from the address book. I imagine they are going to restrict acess to the DL's as well to stop all these mails
But then when they introduced the exit policy for training, and some guy emailed the unethicality of it to him, the names of the head honchos were removed from the address book. I imagine they are going to restrict acess to the DL's as well to stop all these mails
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greenhorn said:
Spoken like a true Outfoscion