itspriyank
Adept
I am getting it for around 62000 for a 64 GB. Should I go for it? Or wait two months for iphone 12, so that iphone 11 has some price cut.
Budget Above 40k Is it the right time to buy iPhone 11…?
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raksrules
Elite
I think Google pays apple to be the default search engine in safari.
raksrules
Elite
Well see Google's entire revenue is based on collecting info and showing ads. You can change the default search engine if you like. I don't see anything wrong in getting paid to be default search engine. The amount is very very lucrative.
Yes definitely but how does this absolve apple of blame? They can just say no our users privacy is the most important thing in the world to us and we will not let you commit murder in our house not under our watch?
Clearly they are choosing to overlook privacy for money
sauravghosh
Adept
If Google indeed pays Apple to remain the default search engine and Apple despite knowing the fact that it may hamper security of their phones then Apple is same guilty as Google.
They do it came up in front of regulators during the recent antitrust case against Google
Google paid Apple up to $12 billion for a search engine deal that disadvantaged competitors, landmark antitrust suit claims
The US Department of Justice estimates Google pays Apple between $8 billion and $12 billion a year to appear as the iPhone's default search engine.
www.businessinsider.com
Indeed, it is all about money. But I never use Safari or Google. I would recommend using Brave with Startpage which includes anonymised results from Google.They do it came up in front of regulators during the recent antitrust case against Google
Google paid Apple up to $12 billion for a search engine deal that disadvantaged competitors, landmark antitrust suit claims
The US Department of Justice estimates Google pays Apple between $8 billion and $12 billion a year to appear as the iPhone's default search engine.
Have you thought about why Brave is free and not paid if they claim not to track users?.
Actually Brave is built on chromium engine which is developed by Google and Brave only eliminates ads and ad Trackers in website. While eliminating those ads and ad trackers, it displays its own ads which are anonymised based on the browsers user base.
Now how is the browser user base identified, ex. This group of user base belongs with age 25-35 or has interest in a particular topic? A big question again which cannot be achieved without creating a model of the user. To create a model, again one needs to track what a user do.
Yes, I have read the FAQ on their website.
Frequently Asked Questions | Brave
Learn about the fast and private Brave browser and experience the web ad-free. Get more information on how it works and how users and content creators can benefit from using the Brave.
brave.com
The tracking is linked to Brave Rewards which I have never enabled as I don't care about BAT. Their other income source is through tie-ups with various crypto wallets and exchanges which I have again disabled. They have to earn money, but are at least transparent about it.
Also, it phones home a lot less than other browsers which you can read about below:
Microsoft with its Edge browser actually constantly phones home with persistent identifiers across sessions.
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Both google and apple are transparent about what data they collect. Only thing is they bury them under the terms and conditions or user agreements which is difficult to comprehend and understand for normal user.Yes, I have read the FAQ on their website.
Frequently Asked Questions | Brave
Learn about the fast and private Brave browser and experience the web ad-free. Get more information on how it works and how users and content creators can benefit from using the Brave.
The tracking is linked to Brave Rewards which I have never enabled as I don't care about BAT. Their other income source is through tie-ups with various crypto wallets and exchanges which I have again disabled. They have to earn money, but are at least transparent about it.
Also, it phones home a lot less than other browsers which you can read about below:
Data collection is inevitable but it comes down to how much it is anonymised. In that sense, Google does quite a good job as there hasn't been any identifiable leaks at their end. Microsoft collects data a lot with persistent identifiers, especially on Windows. Facebook is at the worst end of the spectrum along with Chinese platforms like Alibaba.
raksrules
Elite
Isn't the answer to this question very subjective? Your "need" is different from what someone else's need is. Sometimes, your needs may be someone's wants. It differs from person to person. There are million reasons why people may want / need to use iPhone and as many reasons of not using it. I am using iPhone since 2012 and I don't like change, I always want the familiar device/UI I know so next phone for me (after 5-6 years of using my current iPhone) will be an iPhone.
Similarly, others may have their reasons. Not sure how you can decide what is need of a device for someone else.
raksrules
Elite
Another subjective thing here. If someone is buying iPhone even when it is expensive, it is their call. Also fortunately, for me, I never bought my iPhone in India because both the times I was in US (when I got 4S first and then 6S). In fact, I got 6S for free (there is a big show off thread from me from back in 2015). Also I don't buy phone on EMI (but won't hesitate to buy on EMI if I got no cost option).
I am not at all offended. I don't care what you or anyone else uses. I like to use iPhone. Period. I am not in the show off bracket who buy for brag value. I genuinely love using it and if I wanted to brag, I would have got latest and greatest and won't have been using a 5+ years old 6S even today and apple watch which is now 3.5 years old.
You say they hid information so lightly.No idea why you linked the batterygate settlement over here. Apple hid information from its users irrespective of its intentions and has paid for it. At least they are held accountable in the US, unlike most manufacturers from China who are directly working for their government and will never be held accountable.
I think the irony of Facebook complaining about data collection is lost on you. This was basically Facebook ranting about Apple clamping down on Facebook's unethical data collection practices.
Facebook: Apple privacy changes will muck up online ads
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — Facebook is pushing back on new Apple privacy rules for its mobile devices — and putting app developers in the middle.apnews.com
The worst was when they released a free VPN that basically directed all traffic to Facebook for data harvesting.
Apple strikes blow to Facebook as it clamps down on data harvesting
Rules appear to target services like Onavo Protect, which claims to protect user data even as it feeds information to Facebookwww.theguardian.com
If you want a better view how iOS 14 has made ad networks nervous, you can read it below:
Apple’s iOS 14 Privacy Update Changes The Complexion Of User Data Collection
With its new privacy update impacting the way advertisers collect data, Apple is changing the complexion of data collection which will materially change the way advertisers collect and use data to deliver targeted ads and customer experience.www.forbes.com
If they can hide one thing they can hide anything. Where do you draw the line? How do you trust someone who decides when to lie?
I am not saying fb is reliable by any stretch of the imagination. However the point is that Apple is not a saint otherwise all these cases and allegations won't happen. They would be won and not settled with penalties.
The idea that Apple is some saint at security is just advertising. That is where the blind trust and advertising is the most harmful. Apple users will be sitting at home sipping coffee thinking they are 100% safe. At this time, an android user will be trying to erect firewalls and VPN as they are aware of possible data threats. Who do you think is more Secure? Blind trust or well prepared?
have Samsung been involved in security breaches as well? Lenovo? Google? Motorola?
Ofcourse if you buy a Chinese phone, you kind of know the deal beforehand that you protect your data from the world or the manufacturer will take itm
Why does someone need an iPhone these days?
Yes, if you're on Mac , all of your friends have iphones, may be.
Yes, they shoot amazing videos..but how many of you are making money from your videos.
If you're making money, you're possibly using a dedicated video camera from Sony or Canon or even a Panasonic.
If you're on Mac, how are you making money with it? Music production? LPX? Yes, it's fantastic..go on..
Not making enough money.. Windows + Samplitude Pro can give you better results ( it's a damn tough DAW, but can go far deeper than LPX) Need something easy and cheap? Presonus Studio One, almost at the same level as LPX.
You wanna show off...sure, buy it..just calculate one thing...if the iphone you're buying is less than 20 percent of your monthly income, buy it by all means. It's fast, stable, insta works better etc.etc.
This is coming from one of the oldest all Apple user in this forum for a decade.
Apple products these days are GARBAGE, and if you're in India, you're buying expensive garbage.
If you are on an older Mac, keep on using it...it will work forever..the newer ones..post 2015..3 years max, keyboard, faulty design, impossible to recover data, impossible to upgrade anything...good luck friends...I'm free from that slavery now...I can afford to watch and laugh.
Oh yes!! I can surely afford the 12 pro max ultra..whatever..the biggest e-dick 512GB, 10-15 of them. But I won't even visit an Apple Store for myself.
Macs, yes may consider in future for just one software. But iphones, never again!!
Yes, if you're on Mac , all of your friends have iphones, may be.
Yes, they shoot amazing videos..but how many of you are making money from your videos.
If you're making money, you're possibly using a dedicated video camera from Sony or Canon or even a Panasonic.
If you're on Mac, how are you making money with it? Music production? LPX? Yes, it's fantastic..go on..
Not making enough money.. Windows + Samplitude Pro can give you better results ( it's a damn tough DAW, but can go far deeper than LPX) Need something easy and cheap? Presonus Studio One, almost at the same level as LPX.
You wanna show off...sure, buy it..just calculate one thing...if the iphone you're buying is less than 20 percent of your monthly income, buy it by all means. It's fast, stable, insta works better etc.etc.
This is coming from one of the oldest all Apple user in this forum for a decade.
Apple products these days are GARBAGE, and if you're in India, you're buying expensive garbage.
If you are on an older Mac, keep on using it...it will work forever..the newer ones..post 2015..3 years max, keyboard, faulty design, impossible to recover data, impossible to upgrade anything...good luck friends...I'm free from that slavery now...I can afford to watch and laugh.
Oh yes!! I can surely afford the 12 pro max ultra..whatever..the biggest e-dick 512GB, 10-15 of them. But I won't even visit an Apple Store for myself.
Macs, yes may consider in future for just one software. But iphones, never again!!