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His logic is right. Just as the Chinese people are the achilles heel of the CCP. So too are the Iranian people to the IRI.

He must have got decent feedback to make another one.

Quick ending happens if one side surrenders. Did anyone imagine that a year and a month later that Hamas has still not surrendered and all hostages are not free? There is blame to go around here between Israel & the US.

Quick ending is pointless. What you want is a conclusive or decisive end. Where the loser accepts they lost. Then you have a better chance of peace. I'm glad the hostage negotiations are done. They have been a drag all through out. Now we can see some decisive action
 
His logic is right. Just as the Chinese people are the achilles heel of the CCP. So too are the Iranian people to the IRI.
You never know it could backfire also.
It could also become their biggest strength.

So it has to be played very carefully.
He must have got decent feedback to make another one.

Quick ending happens if one side surrenders. Did anyone imagine that a year and a month later that Hamas has still not surrendered and all hostages are not free? There is blame to go around here between Israel & the US.

Quick ending is pointless. What you want is a conclusive or decisive end. Where the loser accepts they lost. Then you have a better chance of peace. I'm glad the hostage negotiations are done. They have been a drag all through out. Now we can see some decisive action

What decisive action..Gaza will be completely vacant and Israeli settlers may start occupying it.

West Bank will become only Palestine state with access to part of Jerusalem. That is the endgame.
 
You never know it could backfire also.
It could also become their biggest strength.

So it has to be played very carefully.
Usually when the country is attacked it causes people to rally around the government. That's not happening. Thanks to phones and vpns, its becoming clear how many are happy the Israelis are attacking and see them as their saviour. Of course the regime does its best to either erase or eliminate such dissent. Many state executions for 'political' crimes and awarded to young people.

Remember what happened to Hasina. Too many students died in a short period by violent crackdown and the next thing you know she is on a flight out of the country.
What decisive action..Gaza will be completely vacant and Israeli settlers may start occupying it.
And where will the million plus go? Not one arab country has offered asylum. You will have a military occupation after Hamas is no longer able to steal aid and sell on the black market. This will be low tempo for at least a year more. Move people out, fight whatever remnants are left in a neighborhood. Move to another.
West Bank will become only Palestine state with access to part of Jerusalem. That is the endgame.
And Gaza. Far right would agree with what you said but its not realistic. There has never been any ethnic cleansing policy. What does it mean when after the 6 day war, the arabs in Judea & Samaria are slowly leaving on their own for Jordan.

And then Moshe Dayan calls them back...

UPDATE : Just listen to how the future SecDef is talking. He seems younger than his predecessors. Great news. Now Israel has options and all the time to plan :happy:

And an earlier video from the now SecState. Perfect attitude for Israel to handle Gaza.
 
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Quick ending happens if one side surrenders. Did anyone imagine that a year and a month later that Hamas has still not surrendered and all hostages are not free? There is blame to go around here between Israel & the US.
There are rumors that hostages are in Iran.
Probably the point behind these Bibi's loose talks.
Quick ending is pointless. What you want is a conclusive or decisive end.
Everybody who normally eats daal chaawal knows opponents of Israel failed pathetically.
Bibi's war will not care an iota about life of hostages if he know where they are and the price to pay on negations is very high. They will be vaporized instantly.
That will end the war quickly and lot more life will be saved.
Remember what happened to Hasina. Too many students died in a short period by violent crackdown and the next thing you know she is on a flight out of the country.
So, if that's all only the worth of so-many youth including girl's lives, is extremely sad for humanity.
Those who lost their life in those protests, lost it for nothing.
 
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There are rumors that hostages are in Iran.
I'm under the impression they're all dead. This why the talks have ended.
Bibi's war will not care an iota about life of hostages if he know where they are and the price to pay on negations is very high.
Ideally that should have been the case but the left made a big deal about returning the hostages.
So, if that's all only the worth of so-many youth and girl's lives, is extremely sad for humanity.
Those who lost their life in those protests, lost it for nothing.
Why sad, only 80+ dead students and the PM flees. Other countries are not so lucky. Many more die and the government is still standing.
 
Why sad, only 80+ dead students and the PM flees. Other countries are not so lucky. Many more die and the government is still standing.
It's sad because their life is lost without any benefit to them, neither to the country.
If the current state of that country can be considered even remotely lucky after such a pathetic tragic fiasco, probably it's better not to oust the working govt. so quickly without a strong and proper plan. People there should've worked with a non-violent means of power transfer to a more stronger, stable, democratic govt.
Unfortunately, inefficient leadership for long time creates unstable and volatile state, which is what that country is facing now.
 
If the current state of that country can be considered even remotely lucky after such a pathetic tragic fiasco, probably it's better not to oust the working govt. so quickly without a strong and proper plan.
The army dropped support. Why so soon and to what end
People there should've worked with a non-violent means of power transfer to a more stronger, stable, democratic govt.
Unfortunately, inefficient leadership for long time creates unstable and volatile state, which is what that country is facing now.
Bangladesh history has always been violent right from the start. This recent bout is nothing.
 
The army dropped support. Why so soon and to what end
Then army may take over, unless they get a stable democratic govt. they are destined to be Pakistan 2 or contemporary Egypt.
Bangladesh history has always been violent right from the start. This recent bout is nothing.
So, not a lodestone for political examples then, just another '___sthan' country.
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Then army may take over, unless they get a stable democratic govt. they are destined to be Pakistan 2 or contemporary Egypt.
In this model the Iranian army needs to cooperate if the mullahs are to be overthrown. Otherwise there will be chaos.
So, not a lodestone for political examples then, just another '___sthan' country.
Feel free to add your own as to how a regime change may be affected in Iran.

According to an Israeli academic I listened to a while back. This will not create a mess like you had with Iraq, Egypt or Libya. In terms of democracy the Iranians are better suited than arabs to succeed.

It seems the deadline has been extended. The Americans have told the Israelis to hold off on anything major until they get more organised.
 
In this model the Iranian army needs to cooperate if the mullahs are to be overthrown.
This is what happened in Egypt.
But now, hearing from locals that majority of businesses there are now either army run or by army benamis, otherwise locals have to pay huge hafta to army benamis making running businesses totally un-viable. Worthy businesses are leaving the country, lot of internal issues like huge inflation, huge population, not enough local produce to support, etc. Not a good situation for future, may turn into another Pak.
 
But now, hearing from locals that majority of businesses there are now either army run or by army benamis, otherwise locals have to pay huge hafta to army benamis making running businesses totally un-viable.
This is true and here is a twitter thread that goes into more details.

Beginning in the early 1980s, #Europe and #America have treated the leaders of the terrorist regime like BUSINESS partners despite the attacks by its militias against Americans, French and other Western allies.

In June 2009 President @BarackObama opened a dialogue with the head of the regime and in 2014-2015 his administration signed the ominous deal that released $150,000,000 to the regime.

Just before October 7th the #Biden-Harris’s administration sent $6 billion dollars to #Qatari banks to be transferred to the #IRGCterrorists, which fueled the massacre of 1,200 innocent Israelis on October 7 by #Hamas.

And..

There is not just “ONE single force that is putting the lives of Iranians in danger”. I wish it was just the Regime, the people of Iran would have kicked them out a long time ago. But it is not just the Islamic regime. We give them too much credit, they could not do it on their own.

It is the network of bankers and brokers that are right now as we speak trying to influence and penetrate the @realDonaldTrump Transition circles to "facilitate" new “deals” and “negotiations” to continue billion-dollar trades that will be used to crush Iranians, Israelis, and Middle Eastern communities, again and again.

And

They will use their infiltrated think tanks to distract Western nations with #nuclear threats just to buy their way back to appeasement policies, lift sanctions, and prop up the regime

This is an interesting point because it suggests no intention to go nuclear but rather the threat is used as leverage to win appeasement from the west. Worked like a charm with OBiden but not at all with Republicans.

See attached for executions. At what point does it become too many?

A sixfold rise since 2021!!
 

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This is an interesting point because it suggests no intention to go nuclear but rather the threat is used as leverage to win appeasement from the west. Worked like a charm with OBiden but not at all with Republicans.
If Trump have to keep his legacy, he will have to avoid an war in Iran.
As I used to mention earlier, Iranians are experts in powerful negotiations, so they will try their best to avoid a war. Hope Trump finds a good deal.
See attached for executions. At what point does it become too many?
Iranians fell for external instigation. The change should've peacefully came from within, all those lives lost for nothing. Those who went to gallows are not going to comeback to continue their life after a tragic show.
Anyways...

This news and it's under-currents may curiously interest you:
 
If Trump have to keep his legacy, he will have to avoid an war in Iran.
As I used to mention earlier, Iranians are experts in powerful negotiations, so they will try their best to avoid a war. Hope Trump finds a good deal.
So it's all about striking a deal.

Iran threatens to go nuclear unless its gets an appeasement policy.

Trump's team let out they will unleash Israel on Iran unless they get....

What?
 
Doesn't address the Iranian nuclear threat. Take that away and Iran has been tamed.
Unfortunately, nuclear weaponry is now considered as an ultimate bargaining chip.
Those who lost it, for eg., Ukraine, openly say they wouldn't have been in current situation if they could wield one.
So, Trump will have to optimize his deal making accordingly.
How information gets leaked in advance, is just one point to be noted from that link about person arrested from Cambodia. So in this era and given situation, surprise attacks won't be as easy as earlier.
 
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Very interesting. Relieved to know it wasn't deliberate by the Biden-Harrris administration
 
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Today, there is broad national and institutional consensus that we must thwart Iran's nuclear program. There is also an understanding that this is operationally viable, with the necessary adjustments and the necessary collaborations, not only from a security perspective, but also from a diplomatic aspect.

We can today achieve this goal, which is the most important. To thwart and remove the threat of annihilation that hovers over the state of Israel.

We have an opportunity, and you must bring about our entire capabilities to implement this, and I believe and I am confident that you will know how to do it.


Israel's new defense minister

They are just waiting for a green light from Washington ;)

If you can't get a regime change done then eliminate the nuclear threat.
 
Today, there is broad national and institutional consensus that we must thwart Iran's nuclear program. There is also an understanding that this is operationally viable, with the necessary adjustments and the necessary collaborations, not only from a security perspective, but also from a diplomatic aspect.

We can today achieve this goal, which is the most important. To thwart and remove the threat of annihilation that hovers over the state of Israel.

We have an opportunity, and you must bring about our entire capabilities to implement this, and I believe and I am confident that you will know how to do it.


Israel's new defense minister

They are just waiting for a green light from Washington ;)

If you can't get a regime change done then eliminate the nuclear threat.
Sometimes I wish Israel would have done same to Pakistan's nuclear plans...they almost were ready to hig Pakistanis but America didn't wanted India to have an major edge over Pakistan and stopped.

Pakistanis were even calling their bomb Islamic bomb and there were reports soon many Islamic countries would have nukes but that didn't happen.

There Abdul Qadeer Khan their scientist was selling it like hot cakes...le lo ..saste mein nuclear blueprint.