Market Feedback Issue with bssunil in a trade Please provide your inputs

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@bssunil: i informed through phone that we can drop the deal right?(because it costs much to ship). Please respond to this question, why in the world did you specify 300Rs as shipping? and why did u accept the price of cabinet to be 4500 including shipping.

By all clauses it means you need to pay the shipping, not me. Its against what we agreed. I never said i will accept the cabinet with the extra shipping costs.

@Mods: please help me in resolving this issue with seller.
 
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demonic said:
@bssunil did mention in his thread that he'd be coming online on tuesday i.e. today,let's hope he does come here and replies.
in his head he is the one who is right... let's hope this advocate doesn't drag this to court!! :p
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For a mere Rs.800 (1300-500) will you drag me to court buddy.
 
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srinivasan said:
Hi guys,

I m srinivasan, i paid the amount for the cabinet which is Rs4500/- (after bargaining with sunil) as mentioned in the following thread.
http://www.techenclave.com/community/threads/nzxt-phantom-410-black-1-month-old-cabinet.148368/

I m pretty new here.. Me and Sunil agreed for the amount which is 4500 including shipping on 10-05=2013. In his post he clearly mentioned that he bought CM Sout 2 at first then carbide 300R(which was a bit fishy). When i called him about shipping he said he need to buy a new cabinet and will ship the cabinet once he has bought it. I agreed and on Saturday he said that he contacted DTDC and said that they asked him 800rs as shipping charges. But he has clearly mentioned that Rs 300 is shipping charge. And then he called me and informed that he will talk to FeDEX who will ship for much lesser amount. Finally he contacted me and informed that they are asking for Rs1300/- in which he will pay 500 and i should pay 800, i said that its a total loss to both of us and asked him to drop the deal and refund the money. He immediately hang up and didn't respond to my calls. Now it seems that he has shipped the cabinet without asking me. And also lodged a complaint in case i don't accept the cabinet. Am i the one to fault here? Isn't his duty to properly enquire the shipping price before posting, he clearly mentioned it as 300Rs, he hasn't mentioned it as shipping at actuals if he has done so, i would have asked him to get a quote.

@All; Please tell me what you could have done if you are in my shoes. I really feel frustrated here. He didn't even mentioned me that he is sending the shipment until i saw the thread.
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I posted shipping as Rs.300 only but when I enquired courier fellows at first they said Rs.60 per KG and later on Rs.120 per KG and FedEx fellows (they ship via Trackon Courier if it is surface shipping) finally asking for Rs.1300. Here the TOTAL WEIGHT is 9KGS. But for a size of a cabinet any courier fellow will take dimensions it seems not weight as a factor for shipping.

Before shipping I clearly told the buyer about how the cabinet will be shipped.

MODS What should I do now?
 
I did gave an option to drop the deal. If the deal had been dropped, both sides would be happy. you did forfeit an agreement. Instead you are forcing the cabinet on me with extra costs.
 
srinivasan said:
@bssunil: i informed through phone that we can drop the deal right?(because it costs much to ship). Please respond to this question, why in the world did you specify 300Rs as shipping? and why did u accept the price of cabinet to be 4500 including shipping.

By all clauses it means you need to pay the shipping, not me. Its against what we agreed. I never said i will accept the cabinet with the extra shipping costs.

@Mods: please help me in resolving this issue with seller.
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I specified Rs.300 as a base figure not an actual amount because I don't work in Logistics buddy to know the shipping costs as such. I accepted Rs.4500 because you said Mahavir computers were selling the same cabby for 5.k (but Mahavir said 6.25k when I asked them about the price later on.) and not 6.2k buddy.

I agreed to the shipping cost which might be 300(I thought max would be 500-600) not 1300 and also as on my part I paid 500 for Freight on Delivery which you can bargain with the courier fellows like you can only pay this much and that likewise. OK. You can understand What I am saying na because MAX WEIGHT shipped through this mode is 25KGS but mine is only 9KGS na. So you can considerably bargain and pay the remaining amount.

I got my NZXT Phantom 410 from theitwares.com on 11-4-13 from Mumbai by paying shipping charges Rs.600 only. Buddy that's why I thought it would be Rs.300-600 at least not Rs.1300 man.[DOUBLEPOST=1368596738][/DOUBLEPOST]
rakeshmarar said:
But before agreeing on 1300 rs. As shipping cost, you should have atleast confirmed the same with srinivasan. :eek:
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I confirmed the same with Srinivasan but he refused but by then I bought an another cabinet and transferred all the contents to my new cabinet and called the courier fellows to my door step to ship it to Srinivasan man.
 
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Look sir,you having sent the product even when he didn't want to take it would be like a forceful sale...Don't you think so?
And also if you mention the shipping cost as a particular figure it is expected that you take only that much and no more,if shipping cost is not known,one should mention "as actual" or something like that.
So you didn't have money for refund,fine! You could have told the buyer to give you a few days to arrange the money...
You could have found another buyer soon.

This way you leave a bad taste on the buyer's mouth.
Just think what if you had ordered something from an online store and had prepaid the sum required which included shipping,but on delivery you realise that you have to pay a huge amount as shipping cost. Wouldn't you feel cheated?

bssunil said:
I accepted Rs.4500 because you said Mahavir computers were selling the same cabby for 5.k (but Mahavir said 6.25k when I asked them about the price later on.) and not 6.2k buddy.
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What if he is getting the cabinet for that amount.Even if he lied,you still did agree on the price,didn't you?
So maybe you came to know he was lying, you could have told him to pay more or the deal is off. You can't force one to pay more,that is absolutely against any ethics and rules!

bssunil said:
I confirmed the same with Srinivasan but he refused but by then I bought an another cabinet and transferred all the contents to my new cabinet and called the courier fellows to my door step to ship it to Srinivasan man.
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And just because the courier fellow was on your door doesn't mean you have to ship the product.You could have apologised to him for the inconvenience and sent him off...

Just think about it sir!!
 
Sunil you should bear the extra charges as firstly you aggreed to a deal which include shipping (no matter how much it is ... I have personally paid more shipping charge then the product itself )
Secondly you should have contacted the buyer for additional charges and ship only if he aggres to it .... which he doesn't

Now be a man of word and pay the additional charges to the buyer
 
demonic said:
Look sir,you having sent the product even when he didn't want to take it would be like a forceful sale...Don't you think so?
And also if you mention the shipping cost as a particular figure it is expected that you take only that much and no more,if shipping cost is not known,one should mention "as actual" or something like that.
So you didn't have money for refund,fine! You could have told the buyer to give you a few days to arrange the money...
You could have found another buyer soon.

This way you leave a bad taste on the buyer's mouth.
Just think what if you had ordered something from an online store and had prepaid the sum required which included shipping,but on delivery you realise that you have to pay a huge amount as shipping cost. Wouldn't you feel cheated?

And just because the courier fellow was on your door doesn't mean you have to ship the product.You could have apologised to him for the inconvenience and sent him off...

Just think about it sir!!
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I could have sent the Trackon courier fellows away but they came from Begumpet (30Kms away) to my house at Ghatkesar for a pick up and shipping as well.
 
But why should i suffer for your wrong descriptions, you should have confirmed the same and informed me(i would have not gone with the deal if shipping charges is rs1300). Outright declaration saying 300 for shipping charges made me to go with this deal.
 
Sunil Sir, I think you should either pay the remaining shipping charge to srinivasan or agree to take the cabinet back. I am saying this because you would only end up spoiling your reputation in the sale thread for a misinformed decision. Try and work it out man, we are only trying to help.
 
where are the mods??
mods need to intervene and also clean up this thread,Only mods can sort this mess out I guess!

tagging the only online moderator @6pack
 
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srinivasan said:
But why should i suffer for your wrong descriptions, you should have confirmed the same and informed me(i would have not gone with the deal if shipping charges is rs1300). Outright declaration saying 300 for shipping charges made me to go with this deal.
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If you can pay Rs.300 for shipping then bargain as much as you can from the courier fellows and the remaining amount (Rs.800-300 or what ever you can bargain) I will pay to you.OK.[DOUBLEPOST=1368603642][/DOUBLEPOST]
rakeshmarar said:
Sunil Sir, I think you should either pay the remaining shipping charge to srinivasan or agree to take the cabinet back. I am saying this because you would only end up spoiling your reputation in the sale thread for a misinformed decision. Try and work it out man, we are only trying to help.
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If I take the cabby back or the buyer doesn't take the cabby back then I will incur double charges (Rs.1300x2) for it to reach me buddy.
 
If you can pay Rs.300 for shipping then bargain as much as you can from the courier fellows and the remaining amount I will pay to you.OK.
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What do you mean by bargain here? Isn't it 1300rs for shipping(so i should pay 800).. Now i m getting confused here.. Please elaborate
 
srinivasan said:
What do you mean by bargain here? Isn't it 1300rs for shipping(so i should pay 800).. Now i m getting confused here.. Please elaborate
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Man Rs.1300 is the shipping amount but I have already paid Rs.500 that means Rs.1300-500=Rs800 is what you need to pay.
But if can pay Rs300 or what ever you can bargain from the total amount of remaining Rs.800 I will pay. OK. That means 800-300(Outright declaration saying 300 for shipping charges made me to go with this deal. by srinivasan)
 
@bssunil , this is getting ridiculous. you are asking the buyer to bargain with the courier company ? Are you joking.
the buyer has to pay 800 to the courier company. when the package arrives, thats what they will demand and thats what he will have to pay. if he doesnt, they will take the package back which means a loss to you as you would then have to refund the 4500 Rs.
you need to pay the buyer 500 more before the package arrives to him or refund the entire amount back.

You cant do the wrong thing and think you can get away with it.
 
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srinivasan said:
So you say you will pay 500rs to me? Leaving me paying 300rs for shipping charges?
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Even if you can bargain any amount out of the 500 it would be good for me. What do you say? The package will reach you within a few hours from now that's what I think. So bargain as much you can from them saying since it is a 9KG Package it should be shipped with Rs.55+7(tax)=62 per KG and in that case 62x9KGS=558 only or the least Rs.600 like wise. OK.
 
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