Its Gujarat again

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Arya said:
Read my previous post, its answered there....and if you're angry go kill some...i dont care

I know this, but this word is still used to kill innocents. Not saying that all muslims are out there to kill everyone in the world....

Can't kill.... 'coz I am not a fanatic... Only fanatics can.... But still why do you believe what fanatics used the word for... People have quoted you blaming ISLAM so you cannot deny your prejudice.... :P

If they call it Internet/ Computer/ Hard Drive & what not then will you believe them... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: or will you find out the real meaning & if its wrongly used or not...
 
People have quoted you blaming ISLAM so you cannot deny your prejudice....

right, tell me any other outfit in India or world fighting in name of another religion? Actively as these guys do...
 
Arya said:
right, tell me any other outfit in India or world fighting in name of another religion? Actively as these guys do...

arrey yaar... why do you believe them... that is my point...

Why can't you believe the majority living peacefully. Why can't you believe this brand.... :rofl:
 
Some "leet" guy on these very forums was saying in some other thread that Hindus were always timid by nature from time immemorial and that Muslims are blood thirsty and violent by nature. Yeah Right! what bull sh1t is that. As if no Hindu guy in whole country has ever committed a violent act. As if all that happened in Ayodhya or Maharashtra are not violent acts. None of it happened for the glorification of a religion / state or sect. Everyone of these violent acts have behind it a person or persons with personal agenda which has nothing to do on with the name on which the violence was being committed.

There was another member on these very forums who was claiming to be a christian and was trying to pass judgement on the Hindus for their in-capability to deal with the so called "Muslim-threat". Christianity has its own history of violence, selfishness and greed. How many millions of Muslims and other people were put it death during crusades all in the name of religion and what was the goal of it all, just to conquer more land, pillage more gold, or get more power. None of it had anything to do with religion at all. I was born a Christian myself, so I know the shameful history of violence that happened on the name of religion.

come on bro.....dont stop in quest for political correctness.....talk abt violent episodes which happened during the "golden period" of islam....how it spread in middle east ,africa and europe?....u 've only talked abt hinduism and christianity....this thread will surely b locked...can u plz write a small summary of violent episodes of islam..fast....save your suckular...err..i mean secular credentials...
 
superczar said:
Read post #22 again

and you seriously need to change your siggy

Well...I can't help if others cant back their comments with facts, I can. I am ready accept if I quoted anything wrong.

Oh yeah, and the siggy stays :P ...it is for people who can't read the complete post and jump to conclusions.

Its completely OK to be an idealist....
 
Its funny, almost everyone who posts here is so sure of his theories and sources, one might think they have an intelligence agency of their own..:lol:

And forgiveness..Its long lost..

Everyone wants to jump the gun and kill or murder the terrorists...Ever thought that if by some cruel turn of events you find yourself in a spot of a terrorist, what will happen to you?? Wouldnt you want a chance to speak??

Everyone wants strict anti terrorist laws..Seen the people who wil be enforcing these laws??? Given such laws, you'l be dead meat if you find yourself on their wrong side..
 
cricfan said:
come on bro.....dont stop in quest for political correctness.....talk abt violent episodes which happened during the "golden period" of islam....how it spread in middle east ,africa and europe?....u 've only talked abt hinduism and christianity....this thread will surely b locked...can u plz write a small summary of violent episodes of islam..fast....save your suckular...err..i mean secular credentials...

Worst part is...some of them still live in that age....I wonder what they'd do when they are done with the world. probably grow people in farms and blow them up later

arrey yaar... why do you believe them... that is my point...

Believe who? dude....

Why can't you believe the majority living peacefully. Why can't you believe this brand....

I am living peacefully...will live few more years till i crash my bike again...may be.
 
Party Monger said:
Its funny, almost everyone who post here is so sure of his theories and sources, one might think they have an intelligence agency of their own..:lol:

Last time someone had one, someone else got invaded :)
 
Its clear that people will keep their prejudices no matter what when it comes to religion other than theirs.... But this is leading to alienation... So no hope there... TE is becoming the rediff hate message board...

What we need is an introspection, asking WHY?
 
racy1 said:
JIHAD is not just war in the name of religion killing innocent people, women children alike... Get the true meaning of Jihad, what is it & how its misused by those fanatics... Its one of the most misunderstood words....

Arya said:
I know this, but this word is still used to kill innocents. Not saying that all muslims are out there to kill everyone in the world....

Gandhi had a very beautiful definition of Jihad. It was how a person can struggle against their own internal imperfections and improve themselves.

However terrorists reject this definition of Jihad. So do most islamic scholars.

While I like it, I doubt Gandhis definition has any legitimacy.
 
Party Monger said:
Everyone want strict anti terrorist laws..Seen the people who wil be enforcing these laws??? Given such laws, you'l be dead meat if you find yourself on their wrong side..

I'd rather choose to be in 5 dead meats if it saves 100. Who cares as long as we save innocent people from getting killed....Israel is an example. Even with so much proximity to Arabs...they control it so well.
 
Its easy to speak my friend..When the time comes, we understand the weight of our words..Wishing we cud take them back...

All those here who talk abt killing these terrorists and all, wouldnt hav the courage to pick up the gun and shoot. Talk and action are two different things.Sometimes when we hurt someone or cheat them, we feel miserable for a long time..Think what will happen when you kill someone..And dont get me wrong this is not weakness..Its care and responsibility..
 
Do they ?

..it has lead to suicide bombers, we dont have those here (yet).

Also theirs is a land dispute, ours isn't !

They want to build a fence, how do we do that ?

Cept around Bangaldesh.

The only thing they have to teach us IMO is better co-ordination between the relevant depts. who deal with this sort of thing.
 
blr_p said:
Do they ?

..it has lead to suicide bombers, we dont have those here (yet).

Also theirs is a land dispute, ours isn't !

They want to build a fence, how do we do that ?

Cept around Bangaldesh.

The only thing they have to teach us IMO is better co-ordination between the relevant depts. who deal with this sort of thing.

Almost whole of Pakistan border is fenced FYI, Bangladesh border is the porous one. Israelis are more effective coz they have much less casualties of what we have here.

Thanks pat!

It is pretty clear that Sharma was killed by his own men at very close range from behind. It was the mistake of the police to rush 2500 policemen into the narrow lanes of Batla House. They were deployed on various floors and rooftops of the same building as well as on the adjoining buildings. Such a mishap was bound to happen in such a situation.

nhice
 
All those here who talk abt killing these terrorists and all, wouldnt hav the courage to pick up the gun and shoot. Talk and action are two different things.

doesnt make any sense....what r the authorities for....its not that they r doing a charitable work....in a democratic country we r free to express our views....

in a way....bolded part looks like u r praising the "brave acts" committed by terrorists..
 
Party Monger said:
Its easy to speak my friend..When the time comes, we understand the weight of our words..Wishing we cud take them back...

All those here who talk abt killing these terrorists and all, wouldnt hav the courage to pick up the gun and shoot. Talk and action are two different things.Sometimes when we hurt someone or cheat them, we feel miserable for a long time..Think what will happen when you kill someone..And dont get me wrong this is not weakness..Its care and responsibility..

I dont do anything on impulse. Everything I say is thought out. For me talk and action are pretty much same...just done in different ways.
 
So Arya, what you think we should do to solve this problem ?

..or maybe more realistically reduce it.
 
blr_p said:
So Arya, what you think we should do to solve this problem ?

..or maybe more realistically reduce it.

One word Education to solve Terrorism, Caste based fights, reservation etc.

Something what our government has not wanted us to become, Educated. Coz when people rise above these petty matters, they'd have to actually work to stay in power. That would suck!

Apart from all that Vision thing....yeah stricter Anti-terrorism laws, FBI kind of agency to look into this matter all across country. Who cares if few innocent are gone...as long as problem is tackled.
 
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