@ashoka1 interesting even its with help of A.I.
Thanks.
Btw I dont like Republic TV but they seem to have covered some points on SU-57 offer. So thought sharing it.
Russia is literally giving everything it has with this offer. Too Good to be true? or will Russia really give it all in this deal?
Again its very complex. We are already manufacturing SU-30 MK1 in India under license from Russia. India does not have the full source code for the Su-30MKI’s core avionics, radar, or engine control systems.
What India does have is. Partial/Layered Source Code Access
Mission Computer: Indian firms like HAL and DRDO have developed and can modify the mission computer, which acts as an interface between the pilot and the weapons/sensors. This allows integration of BrahMos, Astra, and other indigenous weapons.
Weapon Interface Layer: India can write and modify the software needed to “talk” to new weapons, sensors, and pods.
Core Systems: The most sensitive software for the radar (N011M Bars), engine FADEC, and certain flight control systems remains under Russian control. These are “black box” systems
India can use and interface with them, but cannot fully modify or access their underlying code.
Russia, like most major arms exporters, does not provide full source code for its most advanced systems, to protect its intellectual property and military edge.
The latest contracts (like the 2024 deal) increase the share of Indian-made avionics, mission computers, and EW suites. Over time, this reduces dependence on Russian code for new capabilities.
India is steadily increasing indigenous content and software control, but complete autonomy over all Su-30MKI systems is not yet achieved.
India’s Su-30MKI fighter jets use the AL-31FP engines, which are Russian-designed but now largely manufactured in India under license.
India’s Su-30MKI fighter jets use the AL-31FP engines, which are Russian-designed but now largely manufactured in India under license.
The AL-31FP engines were originally supplied by Russia (United Engine Corporation/Saturn).
Since the early 2000s, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has produced these engines under license at its Koraput Division in Odisha, India.
In September 2024, India signed a major contract for 240 new AL-31FP engines (worth ₹26,000 crore/$3.1 billion) to support and upgrade the Su-30MKI fleet.
These engines are being manufactured by HAL in India, with indigenous content now at 54% and plans to increase it to 63%.
India achieved full overhaul capability for these engines domestically in 2018
Many specialized alloys, forgings, and bars required for both the airframe and engine are sourced from Russia, as their proprietary metallurgy is not fully transferred.
Some complex sub-assemblies and high-precision components for both the engine and aircraft structure are still imported.
Even if Russia passes on full engine technology we will still need to import many parts from Russia we dont have technology to manufacture them
ie some alloyed parts needs over 50000 ton hydraulic press to manufacture them and we dont have such big hydraulic press in India.
As of now, the largest aerospace hydraulic forging press in India is a 10,000-ton press at Aequs SEZ, Belgaum.
This is significant, but still much smaller than the 50,000-ton presses used in Russia, the US, and China for the largest and most demanding aerospace forgings.
The 50,000-ton press is capable of producing massive, high-integrity alloy parts for jet engines and aircraft structures that require precise grain alignment and strength.
India’s current press capacity limits the size and complexity of parts it can manufacture domestically
Manufacturing jet engine parts requires not just forging power, but also advanced metallurgy—such as single-crystal turbine blades and proprietary superalloys—which India is still developing.
India has made breakthroughs in producing some critical components like HPC (High Pressure Compressor) discs using isothermal forging at DMRL Hyderabad, but this is for smaller engines (e.g., Jaguar/Hawk’s Adour engine).
Bulk production for the most advanced fighter engines is still not fully indigenous.
Now lets see what China is using.
For decades, China’s air force depended on Russian engines, especially the AL-31F (used in the Su-27, Su-30, and early J-11 and J-20 jets) and the RD-93 (used in the JF-17/FC-1).
Many Chinese fighters, including the J-10, J-11, J-15, and J-16, originally flew with Russian engines.
As of 2025, China still uses Russian engines (AL-31F, AL-31FN, and D-30KP) in several key platforms, including J-20 stealth fighters and strategic bombers.
Janes and other defense sources confirm that “China continues to rely heavily on aero-engines imported from Russia.
Stolen German heavy press technology.
At the end of World War II, the Allies (both the United States and the Soviet Union) competed to seize advanced German industrial technology, including large forging presses used in the aerospace industry.
The “50,000-Ton Press” Story
Nazi Germany, under the “Reichluftfahrtministerium” (Ministry of Aviation), invested in massive hydraulic presses for the production of large magnesium and aluminum alloy parts for aircraft, especially for the Luftwaffe’s advanced designs.
These presses, including the famous 33,000-ton and 50,000-ton hydraulic presses, were used to forge large, lightweight structural components from magnesium and aluminum alloys, which were critical for advanced aircraft production.
After Germany’s defeat, both the US and the USSR sought to capture this technology. The Americans launched Operation Paperclip, bringing German scientists and equipment (including press designs) to the US.
The Soviets dismantled and transported at least one of these giant presses from Germany to the USSR as part of their reparations.
This press, and the associated German expertise, formed the basis for the Soviet Union’s own heavy forging industry, which later produced even larger presses (including the 75,000-ton press at the Voronezh plant).
How much Russia suffered remains unclear among fog of war. Ukrainian claims need to be taken with as much pinch of salt as Pak claims.
But a few points worth considering,
1. It was nonetheless astonishing with how much ease cheap drones could bomb Russian bombers.
2. The attack was more like terror attack rather than military attack.
3. West only cares to trouble Russia. They don't care about whatever happens to Ukraine.
4. Ukraine administration seems more keen on earning personal fortune irrespective of interest of their Citizens, National interest.
A few questions worth pondering..
1. How will Russia respond?
2. Was it a wise move by Ukraine?
3. Was West wise to escalate considering their engagements at Syria, Yaman, Iran?
Russian loss is 13 TU 95 bear completely destroyed. several Tu-22M3 "Backfire", and one A-50 airborne early warning aircraft. FPV drones attacked aircraft wings where they have fuel tanks to maximize damage.
Even aircraft with less visible damage will likely be out of service for years, given the complexity of repairs and the fact that these bombers are no longer in production..
You may not find what was actual damage because authoritarian regimes doesn't wants these types of news to reach public they will supress it.
Whether it’s 41 or 25, the exact number is less important the reality is that in war, aircrafts are lost and destruction is inevitable. war is super super expensive and it drains man power and resources like gutter hole.
what matters most is someone comes 5000 km inside Russia and destroys your nuclear capable strike bombers which are key elements of Russian nuclear triad and cruise missile strike capability and you dont even have basic protection like hangers for them.
TU-95 is one of the best bomber ever designed, it has range of 12000km.The design has proven so effective that it remains in service with upgrades, even after 70 years.
It is being used to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine from deep inside Russian airspace without going into Ukraine defended airspace.
The loss of these strategic bombers so deep inside Russian territory is a major blow to Russian military prestige and deterrence.
How this is a terrorist attack? Did any civilians were attacked on purpose ? In war, military assets—including aircraft—are legitimate targets. The destruction of bombers in a conflict zone is a normal, if costly, reality of warfare, not terrorism.
its same like dropping your air borne units behind enemy line to destroy enemy key infrastructure. Russia’s official statements and state media have repeatedly labeled these drone strikes as terrorist attacks
This is a deliberate choice of language, not a neutral description. Most crucially, if Russia officially acknowledges that its nuclear triad (strategic bombers) was attacked by Ukraine, it could, under
its own
revised nuclear doctrine, be seen as grounds for nuclear retaliation.
Russia’s updated doctrine (2024) states that a conventional attack on its nuclear triad or strategic assets especially if supported by a nuclear power could justify a nuclear response
By calling the attack "terrorism" rather than a Ukrainian military operation, Russia avoids being boxed in by its own doctrine and the expectation of nuclear escalation
Pushing that nuclear button is really very very hard.
