ashish
Galvanizer
Reading all this I will think of wrapping up my car and keeping her inside a vacuum packed room forever.
Jopasu car duster
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Jopasu duster is worth the price
Purchased one a week back for 789 rs for my brezza..
Its strands are wax coated so instead of displacing dust and leading to micro scratches on car paint, with this the dust sticks to the wax coated strands in one stroke hence minimal scratches...
Its worth the price for me..
Btw looking for a cheap yet good 220v pressure washer, for car.. any pointers??
Purchased one a week back for 789 rs for my brezza..
Its strands are wax coated so instead of displacing dust and leading to micro scratches on car paint, with this the dust sticks to the wax coated strands in one stroke hence minimal scratches...
Its worth the price for me..
Btw looking for a cheap yet good 220v pressure washer, for car.. any pointers??
Party Monger
Juggernaut
Jopasu is not like other dusters, its literally magic. I've tried other dusters on amazon. I have a guy who comes to wash car but when Im out on a car trip, its great. One swipe and everyhting clean. Great quality of life improvement if you dont like dusty cars.
Dont use pressure wash for car. Dont even wash car often. Its not needed. You will quicken the rusting process. Just use Jopasu or a damp microfiber cloth.
Look in any eshops, products are imported from PRC and rebranded/ badged as different domestic companies/models. There are many - starting @ 4-5k ₹approx. Have been using one for 5-6 yrs, once a month. Most models come with water pressure adjustment at nozzle by twist.
Just make sure to not use continuously for more than 5 min i.e run for 5min - rest for 5min - again run for 5mins. The that can be used for several minutes continuously are commercial grade ones, upwards of 30k ₹.
Needs first oil change at cumulative 5hrs of use, and subsequently every 35- 40hrs of use (15w-40 engine oil, approx 100-150ml depending on model).
Pressure wash is required when car get muddy, especially in rainy season. After washing, drying with microfiber/ air blower, let the car stay in sun for few minutes. After few hours take the car for a spin - this will take care of remaining water droplets.
for normal case, 2-3 buckets of water and rinse-less car shampoo spray, wipe with micro fiber cloth of GSM 500 and above is enough.
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Heisen
Herald
This car duster will put so many scratches on your clear coat. Most Indian car companies like Suzuki are already putting very thin layer of clear coat on their cars, compared to the German ones. In automotive detailing world this duster is equivariant to rubbing sandpaper on your car, doesn't matter if it is wet or not.
If you want to see the scratches on your car turn on your phone flashlight and see for yourself, these scratches are not visible in daylight but what they eventually end up doing is removing the shine that your new car once had. Making the paint look dull. In fact it is not the paint, it's the clear coat on the paint which get's the scratches.
There are ways to remove them with rubbing compounds and such, what that does is it will remove slight amount of clear coat until the scratch is gone. It's good for surface level micro scratches.
After one section is done, you either clean the microfiber with pressure washer itself to remove dust from it, or dip it into the clean water bucket and rinse it manually, now dip it again into the soapy solution and move to next section, repeat.
The two bucket method is widely popular. We have to make sure that the microfiber stays clean, cause even if a small speck of dirt gets stuck in it, it >>will<< put further scratches on to the next panel you are going to clean.
You want a PH neutral car wash solution. Typically something like this. At all times your microfiber should be dripping the soapy solution, if it is not you can squeeze it to make it drippy again, the more the lubrication, the less chance of microfiber itself putting scratches on the panel.
This is a okay pressure washer - https://www.amazon.in/Aimex-Electric-Pressure-Washer-Winding/dp/B085HGZV9J/
But the thing about these kind of pressure washers is that they are not meant to last, think of it as use and throw category, but you can extend it's life span by following the right practices.
It can last you a long time.
But the best part about them is that they are powerful and also they make very less noise compared to the branded ones like bosch, also they are small in size.
You can get them as low as 4k.
But this will give you the maximum washing satisfaction.
If you want to see the scratches on your car turn on your phone flashlight and see for yourself, these scratches are not visible in daylight but what they eventually end up doing is removing the shine that your new car once had. Making the paint look dull. In fact it is not the paint, it's the clear coat on the paint which get's the scratches.
There are ways to remove them with rubbing compounds and such, what that does is it will remove slight amount of clear coat until the scratch is gone. It's good for surface level micro scratches.
This is the best way, first you run down your car from top to bottom with pressurized water only, to get as much dust/dirt as you can without touching the paint. Then you take two buckets, one filled with plain water the other one with soap solution, now you use a microfiber cloth, dip into the soapy solution, gently rub against the panel in one direction only, not in circular motion, which most Indians do when cleaning things.
After one section is done, you either clean the microfiber with pressure washer itself to remove dust from it, or dip it into the clean water bucket and rinse it manually, now dip it again into the soapy solution and move to next section, repeat.
The two bucket method is widely popular. We have to make sure that the microfiber stays clean, cause even if a small speck of dirt gets stuck in it, it >>will<< put further scratches on to the next panel you are going to clean.
You want a PH neutral car wash solution. Typically something like this. At all times your microfiber should be dripping the soapy solution, if it is not you can squeeze it to make it drippy again, the more the lubrication, the less chance of microfiber itself putting scratches on the panel.
This is a okay pressure washer - https://www.amazon.in/Aimex-Electric-Pressure-Washer-Winding/dp/B085HGZV9J/
But the thing about these kind of pressure washers is that they are not meant to last, think of it as use and throw category, but you can extend it's life span by following the right practices.
It can last you a long time.
But the best part about them is that they are powerful and also they make very less noise compared to the branded ones like bosch, also they are small in size.
You can get them as low as 4k.
But this will give you the maximum washing satisfaction.
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Quasar
Very interesting because Bosch would like you to buy something bigger for less noise. Their entry level pressure washers are noisy
manohar5321
Forerunner
I've used Jopasu duster for a long time too and can vouch for its effectiveness, no scratches on my car when using it and it truly removes dust easily.
Even when the duster turned black after months of use its was still better than any normal non waxed brushes, but a fully dusty brush will eventually micro scratch the paint so better to replace one every few months.
Even when the duster turned black after months of use its was still better than any normal non waxed brushes, but a fully dusty brush will eventually micro scratch the paint so better to replace one every few months.
Foxhound
Beginner
Jopasu or any wax treated duster has benefits of removing a light layer or dust . The idea is to as lightly brush off fine dust , literally let the hanging Threads do it's job. It is not meant to be dusted vigoursly with rubbing motion . Also It should not be used on windshield as it leaves behind wax pits
Now these dusters l won't scratch per se but it will leave micro swirls . Overtime assuming you aren't polishing or using fillers, the surface will become less reflective . In fact any contact will leave microscatch - we can only minimize it
Instead of using jopasu I would reccomend get a good quality 300/400 gsm mf with a detailer spray _ even concentrated version of washless liquids - will do fine . Just a few spritz on panel and one on cloth ans just slide that cloth in one direction as it picks up that dust layer . Decent detailers will also leave behind minor protection or boost your existing wax layer with some even masking existing swirls
Dry swiping with micro fiber cloth is to be avoided as that will be also aggressively putting micro swirls . A liquid lubricant is preferred to go with it and as last resort you can also use simple water to help . Water ain't a great lubricant but will still reduce microswirls
End of the day it's your call based on time and convenience. Again there is no perfect paint even with elaborate washes and drying .
Now these dusters l won't scratch per se but it will leave micro swirls . Overtime assuming you aren't polishing or using fillers, the surface will become less reflective . In fact any contact will leave microscatch - we can only minimize it
Instead of using jopasu I would reccomend get a good quality 300/400 gsm mf with a detailer spray _ even concentrated version of washless liquids - will do fine . Just a few spritz on panel and one on cloth ans just slide that cloth in one direction as it picks up that dust layer . Decent detailers will also leave behind minor protection or boost your existing wax layer with some even masking existing swirls
Dry swiping with micro fiber cloth is to be avoided as that will be also aggressively putting micro swirls . A liquid lubricant is preferred to go with it and as last resort you can also use simple water to help . Water ain't a great lubricant but will still reduce microswirls
End of the day it's your call based on time and convenience. Again there is no perfect paint even with elaborate washes and drying .
manohar5321
Forerunner
Any detailers that you can recommend?Jopasu or any wax treated duster has benefits of removing a light layer or dust . The idea is to as lightly brush off fine dust , literally let the hanging Threads do it's job. It is not meant to be dusted vigoursly with rubbing motion . Also It should not be used on windshield as it leaves behind wax pits
Now these dusters l won't scratch per se but it will leave micro swirls . Overtime assuming you aren't polishing or using fillers, the surface will become less reflective . In fact any contact will leave microscatch - we can only minimize it
Instead of using jopasu I would reccomend get a good quality 300/400 gsm mf with a detailer spray _ even concentrated version of washless liquids - will do fine . Just a few spritz on panel and one on cloth ans just slide that cloth in one direction as it picks up that dust layer . Decent detailers will also leave behind minor protection or boost your existing wax layer with some even masking existing swirls
Dry swiping with micro fiber cloth is to be avoided as that will be also aggressively putting micro swirls . A liquid lubricant is preferred to go with it and as last resort you can also use simple water to help . Water ain't a great lubricant but will still reduce microswirls
End of the day it's your call based on time and convenience. Again there is no perfect paint even with elaborate washes and drying .
Foxhound
Beginner
You can try soft99s luxury liquid wax , turtle wax wax n dry , or make your own by using proklear xtreme cx in higher conc than waterless solution . You can also use a much diluted version of sonax BSD
I personally use the proklear method 70% amd switch with TW wax 20% and soft99 10% to keep it economical
Also if you have the means to get hold of Optimum no rinse , get that_ it's very versatile and depending on conc you can use it basically anywhere - but availability is a concern so I moved over
Heisen
Herald
So people are dry dusting their cars with this duster. I was not aware of that, I assumed people are using water or some liquid.
I am against dry wiping the car, might as well leave it as it is and do a proper wash every weekend.
1 bucket water is enough with pressure washer to wash your car. Pressure washer allows you to use the water with maximum efficiency, as oppose to using water pipe or any other manual method.
I suggest don't bother with this dry stuff, the less you touch the better for the paint. In our dusty environment once a week proper wash is enough, the only thing to watch out for is the acidic bird poop, that will eat into your clear coat and reach the paint and leave a ugly mark. That should be cleaned as soon as you see it.
Dust laying on the car is not a problem, it doesn't eat into your clear coat. The problem starts when people touch it, in attempt to clean it, that is where swirl marks develop. The dust on it's own will not do anything to your paint or clear coat, so it's better to just leave it, and when you get time just pressure wash it and 99% of it all goes away.
I am against dry wiping the car, might as well leave it as it is and do a proper wash every weekend.
1 bucket water is enough with pressure washer to wash your car. Pressure washer allows you to use the water with maximum efficiency, as oppose to using water pipe or any other manual method.
I suggest don't bother with this dry stuff, the less you touch the better for the paint. In our dusty environment once a week proper wash is enough, the only thing to watch out for is the acidic bird poop, that will eat into your clear coat and reach the paint and leave a ugly mark. That should be cleaned as soon as you see it.
The problem is once the microfiber is dirty there is no way to clean it without water. Leaves you no choice but to use it again on the next panel. One single microfiber can give you 8 clean sides, after that you have to clean it or use another one.
Dust laying on the car is not a problem, it doesn't eat into your clear coat. The problem starts when people touch it, in attempt to clean it, that is where swirl marks develop. The dust on it's own will not do anything to your paint or clear coat, so it's better to just leave it, and when you get time just pressure wash it and 99% of it all goes away.
Foxhound
Beginner
The OG california Dusters were originally meant for garage queens participating in concours style events to dust off light layer of accumulated fine dust . Later it crossed over to average Joe .
These dusters are meant to be dry used but with common sense .
Proper wash routines are always advised , but for someone like me in an apartment who want a shiny set of wheels - the waterless or non water washes coupled with quick detailer is kind of the only way. Yes invest in multiple microfiber with different ones just for glasses . But again it depends on a person commitment and time ... life happens and then you may not be so concerned about your dirty car
Heisen
Herald
Foxhound
Beginner
anyhow when I do get time this is my routineTrue that.
1> get a garden spray - fill up some waterless soln and do a quick spray to let the dust and debris soak up
2> Get a small bucket and again use rinseless solution with say 4 MFs - onr or mafra works
3> this is essential Gary dean method _ once you end up using all 8 sides , put it away and use a fresh soaky mf from the bucket _ so no reintroducing dirt in wash solution
4> use a QD and dry out car
5> glasses come last with a dash of armorall glass cleaner and waffle weave mf
In between such washes a waterless wash with sometimes a qD does fine.
Now only when I can see very light dust I take out my jopasu to do the light swipes on horizontal panels . Vertical panels will get that wet cloth treatment
rr9
Forerunner
And you just described PPF... FOMO.... PPF ... P .. p ... F to pay respect....
I wanted to tell the same to @nRiTeCh
Avoid washing the car as much as possible both for the car as well as for the environment.
Every one or two years get it detailed to get back the "new shine" maybe.
I loved your abbreviation!
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Well as I Have just bought a new car so I did some research and the crux is
One can't wash / shouldn't wash the car daily, but in cities like Delhi there is huge huge amount of dust hence no matter what dusting is must..
That's why a wax coated duster like jopasu is needed...
See you cant avoid the swirls and micro scratches as long as there is this much dust.. So instead of washing or dusting daily using a cloth of some sort... Using jopasu is a logical choice... Yes this will also leave scratches on the paint but considerably less than using some other dusting method...
Pressure washing once in a fortnight or 10 days, applying 3m foaming shampoo/or
3M IA260166391 Auto Specialty... https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00MHY63AI
your choice of car foam then again washing it away with pressure wasger then using a 1600gsm towel from softspun (that's what I have) can do the trick..
SOFTSPUN Microfiber Cloth for Car... https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0C4NQSQH9
This much GSM in that small towel (costed me upwards of 500 rs for a 16x10 inch towel) means you only have to run it once and it ll absorb all the water (alternatively one can use a strong air pressure fan to dispel the water droplets )
Once the car is dry applying the turtle wax or 3m wax would keep the shine.
This is what I understood from whatever I read and tried...
One can't wash / shouldn't wash the car daily, but in cities like Delhi there is huge huge amount of dust hence no matter what dusting is must..
That's why a wax coated duster like jopasu is needed...
See you cant avoid the swirls and micro scratches as long as there is this much dust.. So instead of washing or dusting daily using a cloth of some sort... Using jopasu is a logical choice... Yes this will also leave scratches on the paint but considerably less than using some other dusting method...
Pressure washing once in a fortnight or 10 days, applying 3m foaming shampoo/or
3M IA260166391 Auto Specialty... https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00MHY63AI
your choice of car foam then again washing it away with pressure wasger then using a 1600gsm towel from softspun (that's what I have) can do the trick..
SOFTSPUN Microfiber Cloth for Car... https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0C4NQSQH9
This much GSM in that small towel (costed me upwards of 500 rs for a 16x10 inch towel) means you only have to run it once and it ll absorb all the water (alternatively one can use a strong air pressure fan to dispel the water droplets )
Once the car is dry applying the turtle wax or 3m wax would keep the shine.
This is what I understood from whatever I read and tried...
nRiTeCh
Oracle
But these dusters and brushes can never remove bird shit and similar wet splashes like if some spits pan gutkha, mud splashes etc. You have to use water to clean all these.
Yep they are not meant for that..
For such stains one should pour some water over them to make them soft and then gently wipe them with a soft towel or toilet tissue ( micro scratches are un avoidable in such scenario)
Hence a session of rubbing polishing in a few months isn't a bad idea..
But applying a wax in 10or 15 days is definitely a good thing to keep the shine
I use this shampoo and it gives good results, is there anything better than this in this price range?
I'm planning to get armorall glass cleaner from your suggestion, i have tried washing windshield with shampoo but they're still not as clean as I want them to be. After cleaning would you suggest using this wiper liquid?
There are also some deeply embedded dirt along the lower portion of the car that has accumulated over time from mud/dirt splashes which won't come off even with paid pressure wash. Do you know how to remove them?
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Quasar
Shampoo? Wiper fluid?
Is there any difference between windscreen and window pane?
I don't think so.
Few drops liquid dishwash detergent in a bucket of water.
1squeegee with sponge applicator
Clean windscreen