Julia Roberts to adopt child from India

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I hope not, that father of tathagat tulsi to file a petition to get his kid adopted by julia. he did a shame last time by making people aware that his son is a contender for presidentship in india. though we have crap presidents and stuff alrerady, but tathagat tulsi is different kind of crap.

broadway said:
Im clearly generalising but to me it seems that people from the west who embrace eastern religions are emotionally unstable and self-destructive. Britney spears shaved her head in a random way and over dosed on an unknown psychotropic drug after she converted to hinduism. I wonder what julia roberts is going to do. I don't think giving her a child is a good idea. But who knows really.

gimme a break buddy, what oriental religions has to do with retard mental state of britney? julia seems in her right mental shape and its good that shes getting a child from india, what s your logic of not taking it as a good idea?
 
So she converted to hinduism because she wanted or is it she wanted to promote her movie and/or to woo the adoption agencies?

Hey its good if one abandoned kid gets a really good life. But if this is going to be a trend (not just India but any countries), it doesn't feel right.
 
broadway said:
Im clearly generalising but to me it seems that people from the west who embrace eastern religions are emotionally unstable and self-destructive.
Man oh man, what does that say about us then :ohyeah:

Religions are supposed to have universal appeal not just in the places where they started from.

broadway said:
I wonder what julia roberts is going to o. I don't think giving her a child is a good idea. But who knows really.
Heh, i'm still waiting for those that think she is going to 'benefit' from this to actually defend their position. They seemed to have run away all of a sudden which is odd because they seem to be much more confident about their postion than i am of mine.

broadway said:
It makes them appear benevolent.
Or are they looking for salvation and forgiveness for sins from a past life.
 
kippu said:
what culture are they talking about , its a baby , it will adapt wherever he/she goes , its not like we are inborn with culture , we grow up with it ...
vishal2055 said:
Absolutely agree with kippu.. its a child,it has no identity,its becomes what you teach to it.
A baby is not a blank sheet of paper that you can write any thing to. Genes exist for a reason. There are things that are shaped by the environment and there are things that are inherently carried over via genes. A child is not born without a identity. They do have an identity right from birth in the form of physical and behavioral traits as well as genetic memories carried over from the ancestry. The environment only molds them further often emphasizing or reducing certain traits.

Do you guys think that you take 50 babies from parents living in different parts of the world and different environments and isolate them immediately after birth into a neural environment and control that environment to be same for each of the children, do you think that they would become identical replicas of one another? Regardless of the environment being same, each child would still be unique in more ways than just physical appearance. A baby whose ancestors have always spoken Hindi would learn to speak Hindi faster than than any other language even in an isolated and neural environment. Why is an American born child of Indian ancestry different from an American born child of Chinese ancestry and different from an American born child Spanish ancestry? Even if all three of them are raised in a German environment right from birth, they don't be loosing their respective identities. Culture is not just what the environment has molded you into or what you learn after birth, it is also comprised of what is passed on to you via your ancestry.
 
@lord nemesis This whole gene thingie has bothered me since a long time.I have also wondered what really would happen if such an experiment was carried out.

Anyways, You are attributing everything to genes.Consider a family with 10 children.Do they all turn out the same ? Even after being brought up and raised by same parents,conditions and all.Definitely not.So 10 children born to same parents are as different as 10 children born to 10 different parents.Since they are different, this whole point of having a child from a certain culture/race with the intent that he will display his ancestral "colors" becomes moot.Even by going with your gene theory, who knows what mixtures of genes he has,which will express over time.If what you say is true then julia is selectively breeding her children(adotp that is).Which gets us back to the same point which kippu,me and some others made in the first place.

Heh, i'm still waiting for those that think she is going to 'benefit' from this to actually defend their position. They seemed to have run away all of a sudden which is odd because they seem to be much more confident about their postion than i am of mine.

Blr_p bro no one has run away.We are all here. :P have you ever watched any hollywood event,red carpet,any tabloid stuff being flashed in newspapers,magazines,TV ?? The reporting is such that even those minor things like hand bracelets, tinier than an ant tattoo is talked about to death." some x celebrity spotted at some x event in her x designer clothes, with x person, ....you get the idea.These celebrities are rich like anything.(Not that I have any problem with that) For them philanthropic work is like a no brainer.Any tom,dick and harry could do philanthropy if he got some x amount of millions.So you would see that almost all of the celebrities have inclined themselves with one or the other NGO or some cause.But this task itself is no flash news.Its become old and no one gives much hoot about what charity work one does these days.also the person who does the charity is involved mainly in donating and the job stops there itself.There isnt more involvement in the task.Yeah there may be few trips to the remote hospital/xxxx but thats about it.

Julia roberts,madonna,angelina .. they have reached the apex of their careers,earned and still earning bucketloads of money.They have it all.They can have it all.So whats the next best thing they can have which is not an object? The answer is a child.A human child.But everyone has their own.So lets have someone from across the globe.There are countless number of american children looking for fostercare,infants looking for a family.These celebrities dont pick them, they want something from across the globe.Why .. because they want variety in their house.We have variety by have different colored rooms,different type of plants in our homes.These celebrities take it a notch higher by having different colored children.
 
vishal2055 said:
Blr_p bro no one has run away.We are all here. :P have you ever watched any hollywood event,red carpet,any tabloid stuff being flashed in newspapers,magazines,TV ?? The reporting is such that even those minor things like hand bracelets, tinier than an ant tattoo is talked about to death." some x celebrity spotted at some x event in her x designer clothes, with x person, ....you get the idea.These celebrities are rich like anything.(Not that I have any problem with that) For them philanthropic work is like a no brainer.Any tom,dick and harry could do philanthropy if he got some x amount of millions.So you would see that almost all of the celebrities have inclined themselves with one or the other NGO or some cause.But this task itself is no flash news.Its become old and no one gives much hoot about what charity work one does these days.also the person who does the charity is involved mainly in donating and the job stops there itself.There isnt more involvement in the task.Yeah there may be few trips to the remote hospital/xxxx but thats about it.

Julia roberts,madonna,angelina .. they have reached the apex of their careers,earned and still earning bucketloads of money.They have it all.They can have it all.So whats the next best thing they can have which is not an object? The answer is a child.A human child.But everyone has their own.So lets have someone from across the globe.There are countless number of american children looking for fostercare,infants looking for a family.These celebrities dont pick them, they want something from across the globe.Why .. because they want variety in their house.We have variety by have different colored rooms,different type of plants in our homes.These celebrities take it a notch higher by having different colored children.
There are families that will adopt children of races different than to themselves. These are ordinary ppl not hollywood celebrities. What i'm trying to say here is adopting ppl of different backgrounds is not just for the rich & famous. Granted these ppl will choose from within their own country or latin america as its less hassle.

This is why i questioned the 'benefit' you guys so confidently claim as the 'real reason'.

Put another way its like inter-racial marriage isn't it. It might be difficult for ppl here to have a foreign wife but not so hard if they happen to live abroad. Nobody regards this as trying to have more colour in the house they see it as ppl that click on a certain level and want to take it further :)

I mean if adopting an Indian kid was something that very few westerners wanted or could afford to do then you could say maybe this is some sort of status thing or social message but this practice has been going on for decades now. I've personally met a cpl of ppl abroad who said they were picked up from a slum in mumbai and whose parents were white.

I really think you guys are oversimplifying something that just isn't there.

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chiron said:
lol... i can't believe this thread has a serious discussion going.
Imagine you had a friend that adopted a child, and the gossip was that this person did it for selfish motives or to look good.

What would your reaction be ?
 
vishal2055 said:
Anyways, You are attributing everything to genes.

No, I am not. As I already mentioned, the environment in which a child grows molds them appropriately, but regardless of their environment, they also retain traits that they inherited from their parents. All I am saying is that they are not born without identity as you said.

vishal2055 said:
Consider a family with 10 children.Do they all turn out the same ? Even after being brought up and raised by same parents,conditions and all.Definitely not.So 10 children born to same parents are as different as 10 children born to 10 different parents.Since they are different, this whole point of having a child from a certain culture/race with the intent that he will display his ancestral "colors" becomes moot.

At the same time, you can't deny the fact that there would be at least a physical and behavioral similarities between those siblings. For instance my three aunts (my fathers sisters) have both physical and behavioral similarities carried from from my great grand parents despite living in an environment entirely different from my great grand parents. I am also told that I have a lot of behavioral similarities with my grand father although few physical similarities. Clearly there were some behavioral traits passed down genetically.

I am not trying to justify Julia Roberts reasons and I care less why she wants to adopt an Indian child, my post was entirely targeted at your and kippu's statements that a child is born without an identity and are shaped only by the environment they grow in.
 
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