KGB archiver.

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Party Monger said:
It doesnt Uncompress to a full game image!!!!

Dude!!! Its called a mini image!!!

Its just like a shadow copy, It doesnt hav the full dvd jus pretends that it has..THese are *.mds files...They are used to fool securedisk and other protection methods...
Use daemon and load it, then run something from it..Ul know what i mean..

There is a script which when run makes windows see it as a full image, and hence even explorer reports as 4gb(or whatever size of original disk)
If 4gb compressed to 1mb then people wouldnt be downloading 30gb high def movies!!!!
Huff..Dont just believe what your eyes see..reason it out...:P

@prabs:-what are the contents of the archieve??

And kgb is the most worthless archiver out there, better than that is uharc compressor, its used to compress game rips..Me once got a hitman blood money rip of 200mb just outta curiosity, decompressed to 2.4 gb..lol
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please dont comment without actually having used something.

kgb does indeed compress stuff to wayy more insane levels than anything else including UHARC which btw is really really 'ancient'...

i am pretty confident that the 1mb file being referred to ehre is not a ghost/mini image since i have myself used kgb wen i got hold of an ahem copy of kotor2.. that was something like 2 megs..

also.. video compression is another matter all together.. which is why u dont find stuff like winrar/zip being used to compress movies.. the algorithms and techniques required for the same are very very different.
 
ok guys enough of bullsh!t.

If anybody can compress 4gb in 1mb then people wont buy all the high capacity hard disks.

This is what actually happens.I would like to take the example on GTA-SA 64kb kgb archive which supposedly decompresses to 4.x gb.I have seen 480mb gta-sa rip which uncompresses to abot 4.3gb and it uses uharc(no.1 compressor).Now this 64kb file was supposed to give me those 480mb files which were then to be uncompressed again to play the game.Now here is what these people do,they open up a text editor or use an automated program and writes juat a single or couple of letters repeatedly,like say gggg a million times till its size matches up with one of the game data files.Then they rename it to that specific file and then use kbg,now it will decompress the full file to g\(no. of times its appearing),winrar for that matter will do the same.And voila they just fooled you into downloading that file from rapidshare and made themselves several points or whatever they do it for.

groups like skulputra,who are best rippers out there still uses uharc and 7zip.

I am sure none of you have actually decompressed those 64kb or 1mb files and see if the game actually works or not.
 
^^ ive done.. like i said previously...

the only reason behind the non-mass-accpetance of kgb is that it does not go along with one of the basic tenets of a good compressor, which is a decent match between compression ratio & time taken to compress..

it works,, but u might as well grow old in the time it takes to compress.
 
^^can you send me that 2mb file of yours?I am damn sure its not gonna work.

Man this is BS,its just not possible.
 
I dont think so much compression is possible , the max difference in compression of RAR , ZIP and KGB is not more than 10%

it also depends on the file you are compressing , try creating a backup of your entire registry using regedit >> there will be a ~50 MB file , then compress it with any compressor and youll get a ~5 mb file
 
sTALKEr said:
please dont comment without actually having used something.

kgb does indeed compress stuff to wayy more insane levels than anything else including UHARC which btw is really really 'ancient'...
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Ahhhh name is stalker...So thats how you know what i did all my life...:bleh:

how do u know what i hav used and wat i havent??? smarta$$...

Your so called "ancient" UHARC is used by MOST rippers..so stop bickering abt things that YOU havent used..

i am pretty confident that the 1mb file being referred to ehre is not a ghost/mini image since i have myself used kgb wen i got hold of an ahem copy of kotor2.. that was something like 2 megs..
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Here you go, read the comments or try it at your own risk...
Like i said, the two files that are there are .mds and mdf..

@mods-If the link is not allowed then please do remove, only intention here is to help...
also.. video compression is another matter all together.. which is why u dont find stuff like winrar/zip being used to compress movies.. the algorithms and techniques required for the same are very very different.
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How many rips have you downloaded??? how many were compressed using any thing other than rar zip or 7zip???

And Im not talking abt video formats...

Edit, read the link greenhorn gave..
 
video data cannot be compressed using conventional algorithms such as rar/zip.. the only reason u find rar files for them is because it makes it easier to divide them up.

am not denying that rar/zip is used to compress games. i ahve personally used uharc a huge number of times.

am not trying to make thjis a personal 'flame' of any sort.. so i would request you to mind your comments.

all i said was that i have used kgb.. it works..

u mentioned that u had used uharc.. but never made any comment abt using kgb.. which i why i mentioned whatever i did.. but u dont seem intent on taking my comments in the right sense.

@ravi.. sorry but this was a long time back.. i dont have the files on me.. but if u really are so inclined.. it wont be too hard for you to find kbg archives arnd on the net..

also.. abt mini-images.. there is no 'ghost-script' which is secretly at work.. u can make ur own 'ghost-images' if u want to.. all u need to do is start the image creation process using something like alcohol and cancel it jus a few secs after it starts. it will create a incomplete image file.. which is ur mini-image.. the starting few secs results in a copy of the TOC - table of contents being created. thats all u need in a mini-image.. not any voodoo/secret script,,,

also check the sourceforge page for kbg
 
sTALKEr said:
@ravi.. sorry but this was a long time back.. i dont have the files on me.. but if u really are so inclined.. it wont be too hard for you to find kbg archives arnd on the net..

also.. abt mini-images.. there is no 'ghost-script' which is secretly at work.. u can make ur own 'ghost-images' if u want to.. all u need to do is start the image creation process using something like alcohol and cancel it jus a few secs after it starts. it will create a incomplete image file.. which is ur mini-image.. the starting few secs results in a copy of the TOC - table of contents being created. thats all u need in a mini-image.. not any voodoo/secret script,,,

also check the sourceforge page for kbg
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na I wanted the archive that worked for you,lol,which I am sure din't.As for other kgb archives I have tried many and the above example I took was from one of them.

the guy who can compress 4gb random data to 1mb is going to be pretty fugging rich.
 
sTALKEr said:
video data cannot be compressed using conventional algorithms such as rar/zip.. the only reason u find rar files for them is because it makes it easier to divide them up.

am not denying that rar/zip is used to compress games. i ahve personally used uharc a huge number of times.

am not trying to make thjis a personal 'flame' of any sort.. so i would request you to mind your comments.

all i said was that i have used kgb.. it works..
u mentioned that u had used uharc.. but never made any comment abt using kgb.. which i why i mentioned whatever i did.. but u dont seem intent on taking my comments in the right sense.
@ravi.. sorry but this was a long time back.. i dont have the files on me.. but if u really are so inclined.. it wont be too hard for you to find kbg archives arnd on the net..
also.. abt mini-images.. there is no 'ghost-script' which is secretly at work.. u can make ur own 'ghost-images' if u want to.. all u need to do is start the image creation process using something like alcohol and cancel it jus a few secs after it starts. it will create a incomplete image file.. which is ur mini-image.. the starting few secs results in a copy of the TOC - table of contents being created. thats all u need in a mini-image.. not any voodoo/secret script,,,
also check the sourceforge page for kbg
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YOu missed the whole point...

My comments were in context to the nfs carbon image, for which i gave proof..

Even i know there is no ghost script, the script was

I know abt mini image and also abt the video thing...

Just read the link greenhorn gave and the debate will be over...

Nothin personal..Peace out..
 
I downloaded the 1 mb NFS carbon game through google and uncompressed it in KGB and it was a Maxi Image , it works the same as a Mini Image but the size is same as the real image , so really a waste of space

and i then compresses it in winRAR at best compression and voila it took 748kb

less than KGB :P

so while KGB can compress well , it cannot perform miracles
 
KGB works.

I have used it to compress some images myself. It takes days, not hours to compress. and about the same to uncompress. KGB uses a very large dictionary and operations to derive patterns to compress.

However the kgb archives available on the net are fake.

THE best archiver to use is 7-zip. It has the best performance:compression ratio. It can compress a bit too, if you use a large dictionary size/ultra compression. Its better than UHARC. Believe me. I have used both.

I once had a 7mb game (.7z) which decompressed to 140 mb. (House of the Dead -1)

WinRAR is better for security purposes since it has a proprietary encryption algorithm.
 
Ok my power cord busted that time so comp was down all day. Got a new one and didn't wanna spend so much time compressing a big file hence did a smaller one.

567MB ISO --> 94MB.

Not as good as people say, but it definitely saves a lot of space! Will try more files later. Btw, maybe i have some old version or something, but it wasn't taking single files larger than 4GB
 
^nice..What exactly were you compressing???
Can u try winrar at highest on the same file...?N ya notiice the time to compress also..
 
I dont see any point in compressing 700mb ms-office to 4mb or so...Say i download that 4 mb file from internet, it would take me atleast 10 hours to uncompress it and i also would need a high end config pc to decompress/compress files.Instead i could download that entire 700mb stuff from my crappy HOME 900+ :P And save some extra time, needed by kgb.
 
Party Monger said:
^nice..What exactly were you compressing???

Can u try winrar at highest on the same file...?N ya notiice the time to compress also..
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some game.. Winrar converted the same to 390mb at best. Who is talking about time here? EVERYONE knows that its faster to compress things in winrar but i thought the discussion here was on its compression and not the time it takes to compress correct?

i think kgb took about 3-4 hrs to compress that.. don't know exactly as i was out.
 
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