Party Monger
Juggernaut
Agreed on all that you said, but then comes robustness, loads of apps games and features.TechHead said:
Letter from Nokia CEO to its employees
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Metalspree
Galvanizer
@Th, its all about perception. The EVO 4G mobile phone out by HTC when much better features was still losing out to the iPhone. Its about brand recognition and glitter nowadays. I think Nokia is taking the right step forward. Anything other than this current situation is good.
jojothedragon
Discoverer
Nokia phones are now shit. I lost my Samsung phone and bought a Nokia C5. I bought Nokia because of the brand name. But I now realize that how far is Nokia behind their competitors. Simple intuitive features which were present on cheap Samsung phones are missing on Nokia like Multiple message deletes, no username on message or miss call alerts etc. Also, many features are downright inconvenient.
Most people buy Nokia because the brand loyalty it enjoyed previously. Once they realized the phones are shit and cheap Chinese phones offer better features, they will never come back.
Most people buy Nokia because the brand loyalty it enjoyed previously. Once they realized the phones are shit and cheap Chinese phones offer better features, they will never come back.
Sudarshan_SMD
Galvanizer
2 year back NOKIA was arrogant and overconfident. They snubbed Android. This is what they get for it.
Either they are/were too much optimistic about their meegoo OS OR they feared competition on Android platform.
This mail surely shows that, they have realized what they have lost. They admit it, they have lost it, now nobody can deny it.
I see better future for NOKIA, whatever their plans might be.
Either they are/were too much optimistic about their meegoo OS OR they feared competition on Android platform.
This mail surely shows that, they have realized what they have lost. They admit it, they have lost it, now nobody can deny it.
I see better future for NOKIA, whatever their plans might be.
Party Monger
Juggernaut
I get what you are saying, but CHOICE matters too. Having gravity as a twitter client for nokia rocks, but look at android, quite a few equally awesome clients.TechHead said:
Besides, im more of a WP7 fan. That OS rocks!
Pat
Galvanizer
I have a spare extended (1800 mah) battery from ChiChiTech for my G2 that I wouldn't mind selling. Best part is it doesn't need a change in the battery door. Hit me up on PM if interestedTechHead said:
Here's the link from where it was purchased! CHICHITEC SPRINT HTC EVO 4G BATTERY 1800mAh high capacity OEM Verizon Incredible Droid TOUCH PRO2 HTC HERO
And heres a discussion on them Battery - xda-developers
Read this post from this blog: Communities Dominate Brands: The Nokia CEO 'Burning Platform' memo at Engadget, doesn't ring true to my ears..
It clearly explains this post by engadget is most probably a hoax which is ...aimed at rallying troops, that is uniting all the Nokia/Symbian haters. Why would Nokia leave all their time developing Symbian and MeeGo go for waste and switch to an inferior OS. I sense some conspiracy here, Nokia doesn't need WP7, WP7 needs Nokia and someone is desperately trying to rally public support through fake letters of self appreciation.
It's either that or Nokia have a problem at their high level.
It clearly explains this post by engadget is most probably a hoax which is ...aimed at rallying troops, that is uniting all the Nokia/Symbian haters. Why would Nokia leave all their time developing Symbian and MeeGo go for waste and switch to an inferior OS. I sense some conspiracy here, Nokia doesn't need WP7, WP7 needs Nokia and someone is desperately trying to rally public support through fake letters of self appreciation.
It's either that or Nokia have a problem at their high level.
Ordered the other one, the Mugen Power. Thanks, will let you know if it doesn't show upPat said:I have a spare extended (1800 mah) battery from ChiChiTech for my G2 that I wouldn't mind selling. Best part is it doesn't need a change in the battery door. Hit me up on PM if interested
Here's the link from where it was purchased! CHICHITEC SPRINT HTC EVO 4G BATTERY 1800mAh high capacity OEM Verizon Incredible Droid TOUCH PRO2 HTC HERO
And heres a discussion on them Battery - xda-developers
+1blkrb0t said:
I am dying to see MeeGo phone..I am 99.99% sure that NOkia will not go to WP7 or android. But if 0.01% turns into reality...it will be disastrous for nokia in the long run. They will join the assembly line of OEMs churning out 4" slabs
There is a reason why Samsung has developed in house OS aka bada. Nothing comes close to controlling the OS and ecosystem i.e having your on OS and eco-system. I really liked Nokia's Qt strategy. I think on 11 Feb they will annouce some tie-up with MicroSoft regarding apps like Office Suite etc..
If they go WP7 way, it will be like shooting self in groin
Since the last two years, touchscreen phones slowly and steadily began to dominate the market and constitute the bulk of high end and now even mid range global phone sales. Nokia was too heavily invested in Symbian (which was inherently not suitable for touchscreen back then) and they chose to ignore this emerging trend hoping that it would die away. Well, it didn't and they are paying for it now.
They did not do much on the hardware front either for touchscreen phones. AFAIK none of their phones had capacitive touch. Also, if I'm not mistaken, they went ahead and released a bunch of lacklustre phones that did not appeal to anyone in the face of such strong competition further strengthening their perception as an old school company. (They did however provide other improvements such as 3.5mm jack on most of their phones, providing many VFM budget and business phones etc).
I've not used Symbian v3 but if the reviews I've read are anything to go by, it just isn't as slick as Android. Plus it's late to the party i.e. Android is now a household name and dare I say enjoys that "cool" status (even though it's implementation is far from perfect). Even if Nokia does manage to come out with something better, it would probably not sell due to their already battered image.
What should they do to improve? I'm not sure. Pitting Symbian against Android has not worked. It would probably work in their favour if they embraced it instead and reduced their R&D spend on Symbian or Meego. Also, more features in their budget models wouldn't hurt. They need to concentrate on their strengths, markets like India where their brand has good legacy and need to come up with a product portfolio that other phone manufacturers find it difficult to be in.
They did not do much on the hardware front either for touchscreen phones. AFAIK none of their phones had capacitive touch. Also, if I'm not mistaken, they went ahead and released a bunch of lacklustre phones that did not appeal to anyone in the face of such strong competition further strengthening their perception as an old school company. (They did however provide other improvements such as 3.5mm jack on most of their phones, providing many VFM budget and business phones etc).
I've not used Symbian v3 but if the reviews I've read are anything to go by, it just isn't as slick as Android. Plus it's late to the party i.e. Android is now a household name and dare I say enjoys that "cool" status (even though it's implementation is far from perfect). Even if Nokia does manage to come out with something better, it would probably not sell due to their already battered image.
What should they do to improve? I'm not sure. Pitting Symbian against Android has not worked. It would probably work in their favour if they embraced it instead and reduced their R&D spend on Symbian or Meego. Also, more features in their budget models wouldn't hurt. They need to concentrate on their strengths, markets like India where their brand has good legacy and need to come up with a product portfolio that other phone manufacturers find it difficult to be in.
yashvisent
Explorer
Hi guys,
I have used many phones e.g. (maxx mobile, micromax, Samsung Galaxy S, Sony Ericson, Motorola, etc and many more)
But personally i guess the best user experience that I get is from Nokia, Currently i am using Nokia N8 and it suits best for my needs, of a hobbyist photographer, occasional browsing and chat, smsing, phone calls, playing games and above all watching movies and listening songs while traveling.
It gives me the best user exp. I just love my device.
Further I agree that nokia, is been left out of the android, practically they still think that they are in commanding position, and they want to dominate with all their things like typical Europeans, which they may loose with android as all they will have is their hardware.
But I guess android might be the way to go for nokia, as when it comes to hardware they are the best. Also i guess their tieup with WP7 will not be enough, they have to release android based phone to cut into the competition.
I still remember the time few years back when microsoft approached nokia for WP based devices and nokia instead of politely saying NO to msft just insulted them. now they are paying for it.
Still I am a nokia fan....
I have used many phones e.g. (maxx mobile, micromax, Samsung Galaxy S, Sony Ericson, Motorola, etc and many more)
But personally i guess the best user experience that I get is from Nokia, Currently i am using Nokia N8 and it suits best for my needs, of a hobbyist photographer, occasional browsing and chat, smsing, phone calls, playing games and above all watching movies and listening songs while traveling.
It gives me the best user exp. I just love my device.
Further I agree that nokia, is been left out of the android, practically they still think that they are in commanding position, and they want to dominate with all their things like typical Europeans, which they may loose with android as all they will have is their hardware.
But I guess android might be the way to go for nokia, as when it comes to hardware they are the best. Also i guess their tieup with WP7 will not be enough, they have to release android based phone to cut into the competition.
I still remember the time few years back when microsoft approached nokia for WP based devices and nokia instead of politely saying NO to msft just insulted them. now they are paying for it.
Still I am a nokia fan....
Bloomberg: Nokia definitely in talks with Microsoft, partnership likely (update: WSJ, too) -- Engadget
No one read this on engadget?
No one read this on engadget?
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