Look mom, I outsourced my homework to India!

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SharekhaN said:
the whole of WEST is going to the dogs.. just keep watching. Unless they do something about their education. And thats not going to happen if they start things like outsourcing their homework.
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Probably, but keep in mind people in the west don't grow up around narrow-minded adults who keep saying/drilling "my son/daughter is going to be a doctor/engineer/lawyer". They have *real* freedom of choice from a very young age, so they can dream of being anything - a rockstar, gamer, athlete, stripper, coke dealer, even a roadie. Besides, an alarming % of kids drop out of school/college because they don't like their professors/teachers, subjects chosen, or they just want to pursue their dream. They're all not very successful, but at least they spend time doing stuff they really enjoy rather than being forced to become something they're not. You programmers don't BS me and say you enjoy your work - coding is like imposition, and I'm sure you'll feel like hanging yourself if you have to work with people like me.

If that doesn't make a lot of sense or seems a little off topic, blame it on great Irish stout. And if you don't know what that means, you're not old/smart enough to read my posts :P
 
most people in the US work for minimum wages or a bit more , like 11USD per hr , this is very less compared even to the 10 k that some people make in India becuase everything so god damned expensive here. i am staying here in the US at a fairly decent hotel that these people call budget, it costs a 110 USD per day.

food is so expnsive , everyone has a car. everyone is crying about gas prices literally, there is no public transport system as good as we have in India.. lol..
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Sorry... no offense, but you can't base the whole of the US economy and style of living from being in one place. You are obviously in a larger city to be paying $110.00 a day for a hotel, or you are by an airport or something. I live in San Francisco which has one of the highest costs of living anywhere in the US, and I know I can get a decent hotel for less here. Cost of living is relevant to where you live.

And yes here in San Francisco and surrounding area we have an excellent transportation system, and what about Chicago or New York... all of these places have great transportation systems.... Where the hell are you to be paying $110.00 a day with lousy transportation.... :P my guess is LA :D

Cost of living is such an important factor you are not considering, in SF it can still cost you upward of 400-500k for a home or even a small condo, yet the median price for a home in the US is only around 100k.

There are many places in the US (it's a really big country) that are very affordable, if you don't want to live in a city like New York, San Francisco or LA etc.....

And min wage... you are off your rocker, maybe if you are 17 and working in a coffee shop, but even then you make tips. I am not saying that some people don't, but not the majority.... you cannot even live in SF and support yourself on min wage, and San Francisco has one of the highest min. wage in the country.

Even with all of that said, you can still move away an hour from here and find affordable cost of living.

My wife and I are shopping for our first home, and there is no way we can afford what we want in SF, so we will most likely move to the East Bay which is easily accessible via the local train system in about 20 mins. We will keep our home for maybe 5-7 years... sell it...then we will likely buy one in SF once we have some equity.

I am from England, my God in Europe gas prices are 10 times worse than the US, and in London the costs of homes even with the real estate crash are still more expensive than SF.
 
PiXeLpUsHeR said:
Sorry... no offense, but you can't base the whole of the US economy and style of living from being in one place. You are obviously in a larger city to be paying $110.00 a day for a hotel, or you are by an airport or something. I live in San Francisco which has one of the highest costs of living anywhere in the US, and I know I can get a decent hotel for less here. Cost of living is relevant to where you live.

And yes here in San Francisco and surrounding area we have an excellent transportation system, and what about Chicago or New York... all of these places have great transportation systems.... Where the hell are you to be paying $110.00 a day with lousy transportation.... :P my guess is LA :D

Cost of living is such an important factor you are not considering, in SF it can still cost you upward of 400-500k for a home or even a small condo, yet the median price for a home in the US is only around 100k.

There are many places in the US (it's a really big country) that are very affordable, if you don't want to live in a city like New York, San Francisco or LA etc.....
And min wage... you are off your rocker, maybe if you are 17 and working in a coffee shop, but even then you make tips. I am not saying that some people don't, but not the majority.... you cannot even live in SF and support yourself on min wage, and San Francisco has one of the highest min. wage in the country.
Even with all of that said, you can still move away an hour from here and find affordable cost of living.

My wife and I are shopping for our first home, and there is no way we can afford what we want in SF, so we will most likely move to the East Bay which is easily accessible via the local train system in about 20 mins. We will keep our home for maybe 5-7 years... sell it...then we will likely buy one in SF once we have some equity.

I am from England, my God in Europe gas prices are 10 times worse than the US, and in London the costs of homes even with the real estate crash are still more expensive than SF.
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I am not trying to be degrading, let me be very honest. If i have come across like that, I certainly do apologise.

What my contention is, and from with discussion with a few people who are US residents ( not immigrants ) is that it is expensive living. majorly for the hourly workers ( i am not talking about salaried people ) who are very high in numbers.

I have been to a few places and the pattern has been somewhat similar.
 
I am not trying to be degrading, let me be very honest. If i have come across like that, I certainly do apologise.
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I don't think you are being degrading... I am not in the least bit offended... but no offense intended... your figures and information are totally incorrect.... this is really all I am saying.

I have been to a few places and the pattern has been somewhat similar.
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I would really like to know where you have been and to what other parts of the US you are comparing them to. A few places in a country the size of the US is hardly a basis for any kind of realistic comparison... As I said the cost of living from one place to another can be drastically different.

I'm not trying to be aggro about this... but I have lived in the US for over 25 years ;) I have traveled and I have friends and family all over the place, and you do not have enough information at all to make the statements you made earlier. :D

The best part are the comments on that page. America has become synonymous with outsourcing.
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Yes... this is still kinda funny really... and is back to the main point anyway :P
 
i have been to charlotte, clevelend, columbus, zanesville, new york and chicago and i have about 4 weeks in total travel.

there is no arguing that living is tough. I have worked people who are at grassroots , juggling jobs, family etc. Mind you things are similar everywhere.

the point is, The US is no exception.
 
i have been to charlotte, clevelend, columbus, zanesville, new york and chicago and i have about 4 weeks in total travel.
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Sorry :P I didn't realize that you had traveled for 4 whole weeks in the US, I can see why you must be an expert in US economics by now.

ok sorry ... sarcasm aside :) it just struck me as a little funny.. you are certainly entitled to your point of view, but I have lived here for 28 years this year and I am almost twice your age.... so maybe I am a little older and perhaps even a little wiser. I can honestly tell you that you do not have you facts straight... you can have drastically different costs of living from place to place in the US
I am not saying that some people don't live like that... but really... it isn't the norm. And as for minimum wage... different places have different minimum wages... it is not the same everywhere as it is based on the govt minimum... but is decided by the cities and state if they want to make it higher due to cost of living.
 
From what i know , a place is only as good as the experience.

As for economics, all you need is some basic math and logic. Adding sarcasm is not making the situation any better.

You honestly want me to believe that the cost of living in the United States is comparable to more or less to what people earn ? You dispute the average 5000 USD credit that an average American is in ? You dispute the blatant consumerism in the US that i have witnessed. 3 dollars for the cheapest coffee , 3 dollars for a bagle ( round doughnut like bread with butter ), 3 dollars for a slice of pizza and 4 USD ~ for a gallon of gas, 20 dollars for a distance that i play under a dollar in India for TAXI ,Tell me how does that equate. and these are things that are you end up spending on everyday more or less.
 
dude sheru..

dont convert man. ruins everything.. you CANNOT convert currencies to compare CoL.. its a totally flawed way fo doing things.
 
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