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Go for the AMD combo, NZXT source elite, 8 GB DDR3 RAM, Corsair CX430 V2 PSU. Should not cost you more than 14K. As for the OS, use freenas.
By the way, I am running G620, Intel H67 (5 SATA ports), 4X4 GB DDR3, Corsair CX430 V2 and NZXT source elite 210 (white), 4 x 2TB WD green. Network is a TPlink gigabit switch. Total damages, 45K. Running Freenas 8.2.0
 
Welcome to the club Sid! :(

We are more or less in the same boat - I have 7 2 TB hard drives of which 3 are installed in the main system comprising of only media and the other 3 are the 1:1 backups of these drives. The other 2 TB drive is being occupied as we speak and has roughly about a TB left. Although my present Lian Li enclosure will easily take about 10+ drives, there are 2 issues I foresee here - cables going haywire inside the enclosure (cable ties wouldn't help much here) and the drives being powered unnecessarily when the system is on. The main system is used purely for gaming and very occasionally for listening to music, so only the SSD (which is where the OS is loaded) and a secondary drive needs to be powered.

I was looking for a 4~5 drive NAS so I can shove the main drives into that system and power it ON only when I need to stream the media from the NAS to the media player/TV. But looks like NAS systems are expensive! North of 10~15k so a PC with low power consumption inside a no-frills enclosure and a good power supply is what I am eyeing. So far, nothing has materialised thanks to my busy schedules nowadays. The HTPC plans have been shelved since the POHD Essential media player will take care of that. Will keep an eye out for this thread and the suggestions. :)

PS: I sure hope you are maintaining backups of those data! Else it would be a pain later when a hard drive fails.
 
CM Elite 311 looks good,You can also go for Nzxt Gamma-2.4k which comes at almost same price,The Source 210 is not as good as gamma so if you go for gamma instead of source 210.For PSU If you want to invest in better psu then Corsair CX430-2.2k is a good option.CM 350W is good enough for your rig.

Nzxt Gamma is out since it would involve Octroi and shipping. Also, it doesn't have that many bays in it. Elite 311 has 7 HDD bays + 3 ODD bays. More than sufficient.

Also, with regards to the PSU - is there anything cheaper and yet worthwhile? Since this will only contain an Atom + HDDs, even 350W would be overkill right?

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Go for the AMD combo, NZXT source elite, 8 GB DDR3 RAM, Corsair CX430 V2 PSU. Should not cost you more than 14K. As for the OS, use freenas.
By the way, I am running G620, Intel H67 (5 SATA ports), 4X4 GB DDR3, Corsair CX430 V2 and NZXT source elite 210 (white), 4 x 2TB WD green. Network is a TPlink gigabit switch. Total damages, 45K. Running Freenas 8.2.0

Umm, you are missing the point here. This is not for an HTPC. You can even assume that I will most probably login once a month. Main stress is on low power consumption and HDD storage. Repeating this because of the AMD combo and 8GB RAM suggestion :)

Welcome to the club Sid! :(

We are more or less in the same boat - I have 7 2 TB hard drives of which 3 are installed in the main system comprising of only media and the other 3 are the 1:1 backups of these drives. The other 2 TB drive is being occupied as we speak and has roughly about a TB left. Although my present Lian Li enclosure will easily take about 10+ drives, there are 2 issues I foresee here - cables going haywire inside the enclosure (cable ties wouldn't help much here) and the drives being powered unnecessarily when the system is on. The main system is used purely for gaming and very occasionally for listening to music, so only the SSD (which is where the OS is loaded) and a secondary drive needs to be powered.

I was looking for a 4~5 drive NAS so I can shove the main drives into that system and power it ON only when I need to stream the media from the NAS to the media player/TV. But looks like NAS systems are expensive! North of 10~15k so a PC with low power consumption inside a no-frills enclosure and a good power supply is what I am eyeing. So far, nothing has materialised thanks to my busy schedules nowadays. The HTPC plans have been shelved since the POHD Essential media player will take care of that. Will keep an eye out for this thread and the suggestions. :)

PS: I sure hope you are maintaining backups of those data! Else it would be a pain later when a hard drive fails.


Yeah, I have been pondering over this since quite some time and have not mustered up the courage to do so. I had gone through cranky's posts earlier; he had mentioned his setup in detail earlier too.

I agree with adding hard disks to the main system. Though I have an el-cheapo Circle case, it can take upto 5 HDDs with ease. Cable management is obviously an issue but more than that, my PC has to be on most of the time. And it sucks a lot of power and is causing unnecessary wear and tear of components. You are not supposed to switch on an electric plant to power a tubelight!! :P

Can't add all the HDDs to the HTPC case since it is quite compact (Elite 360) and heat dissipation becomes a major issue there.

And sadly, no, I am not maintaining backups at the moment. HDDs are too damn expensive. I have already told everyone in my family that if any hard disk goes kaput, I am not going to download stuff again. Let's see; maybe I'll save some money and get HDDs for backup purposes.

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A friend of mine purchased an HP Server @ 12500/- It can accommodate 4 HDD's. And I think if you put an pci sata controller you can add more drives to it.
If i remember there was a for sale thread in this forum somewhere, a guy from HYD was selling these servers

Though it is a good option, but 2 things don't work for me here -

1. It will be more expensive 2nd hand than all the brand new stuff I am buying.
2. Power consumption will be more.

The only advantage in a server lies in stability of the motherboard, CPU and main OS HDD. But those are the parts that will be my least priority in this scenario.
 
Well in Nzxt Gamma you can add 5 HDD in the bottom bay also it has 4 ODD bays but it's ok since you're going for CM 311.I don't think there's psu available below 350,You'd go for 350W PSU as you're adding 5 HDD's,There might be shortage of sata power cables to connect more than 5 HDD or 5 HDD.I hope you have all the HDD's cause this is a very bad time to buy one.
Nzxt Gamma is out since it would involve Octroi and shipping. Also, it doesn't have that many bays in it. Elite 311 has 7 HDD bays + 3 ODD bays. More than sufficient.

Also, with regards to the PSU - is there anything cheaper and yet worthwhile? Since this will only contain an Atom + HDDs, even 350W would be overkill right?
 
Well in Nzxt Gamma you can add 5 HDD in the bottom bay also it has 4 ODD bays but it's ok since you're going for CM 311.I don't think there's psu available below 350,You'd go for 350W PSU as you're adding 5 HDD's,There might be shortage of sata power cables to connect more than 5 HDD or 5 HDD.

Had not thought of that! Checking it right now.
 
By molex to SATA adpaters if you run out of SATA connectors. Why I am suggesting the AMD combo is:
1. It has 6 SATA ports.
2. Its cheap.

I understand your concern about keeping the power down etc., what you have to remember is that the processor which is going to be main power consumer, will almost always remain in its lowest energy state when the NAS is idle. If you further want to decrease the power consumption, fine, underclock the processor, More power reduction? Spin down the drives.

Why I do not recommend atom boards because:
1. Less number of sata ports
2. Less expandability (lack of PCIe slots)

I do not recommend atom boards with SATA expansion cards because:
1. Sometimes LAN chipsets are on PCIE bus, Thus less available bandwidth for both of them
2. NAS OS like freenas, Unraid, Nexenta are very picky about Hardware. Better keep the hardware as simple as possible. You might end up having driver issues.

Why I recommend 8 GB RAM and Freenas
1. Freenas Recommends 1 GB RAM for every 1 TB of Data, and DDR3 RAM is cheap
2. Freenas runs on a pendrive ( no need to waste a whole harddisk for installation)
3. Freenas has ZFS
4. Its Free!!
 
I understand your concern about keeping the power down etc., what you have to remember is that the processor which is going to be main power consumer, will almost always remain in its lowest energy state when the NAS is idle. If you further want to decrease the power consumption, fine, underclock the processor, More power reduction? Spin down the drives.

IIRC its the hard drives that require the most power. Processors mostly are idle and do not consume much power unless they are crunching numbers all the time.
@Sei Building a NAS and expecting it to run green is kinda tricky coz the HDD's run all the time. If you know which disks you need & if there is a mechanism to safely turn off particular disks then you can go for it :)
 
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By molex to SATA adpaters if you run out of SATA connectors. Why I am suggesting the AMD combo is:
1. It has 6 SATA ports.
2. Its cheap.

I understand your concern about keeping the power down etc., what you have to remember is that the processor which is going to be main power consumer, will almost always remain in its lowest energy state when the NAS is idle. If you further want to decrease the power consumption, fine, underclock the processor, More power reduction? Spin down the drives.

Why I do not recommend atom boards because:
1. Less number of sata ports
2. Less expandability (lack of PCIe slots)

I do not recommend atom boards with SATA expansion cards because:
1. Sometimes LAN chipsets are on PCIE bus, Thus less available bandwidth for both of them
2. NAS OS like freenas, Unraid, Nexenta are very picky about Hardware. Better keep the hardware as simple as possible. You might end up having driver issues.

Why I recommend 8 GB RAM and Freenas
1. Freenas Recommends 1 GB RAM for every 1 TB of Data, and DDR3 RAM is cheap
2. Freenas runs on a pendrive ( no need to waste a whole harddisk for installation)
3. Freenas has ZFS
4. Its Free!!

I am going to go in for molex to SATA - that's the only option.

Actually I was looking at any one of these Atom boards - GIGABYTE - Motherboard - BGA 559.
All of them have 4 SATA ports and a PCI slot. Mini-ITX is also quite important here since there are going to be many HDDs in the case and cable management will be easier. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I came across this fantastic board (show-off by Jay Mathers) which is mini-ITX and has 6 SATA ports + PCI-E - ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS P8H77-I. But again, this will need a normal CPU which is going to consume more power. Also, it is quite pricey and will increase my budget by atleast 8-10k.

I am going to run a flavor of Windows 7 on it. So no worries about hardware compatibility issues.
Less bandwidth should not be an issue because in my experience, HD streaming over LAN does not consume more than 4-5 MBps; sometimes even less. Even with the 100 Mbps LAN, I can easily stream HD to 2 sources.

Though running it off a pendrive is appealing, putting in a gig of RAM for each TB of data isn't.

IIRC its the hard drives that require the most power. Processors mostly are idle and do not consume much power unless they are crunching numbers all the time.
Sei Building a NAS and expecting it to run green is kinda tricky coz the HDD's run all the time. If you know which disks you need & if there is a mechanism to safely turn off particular disks then you can go for it :)

That is always going to be the case right? HDDs, no matter where I put them are going to consume power. That is why I want to save power on the processor. Also, I don't need that kind of processing power too.

And from what I have seen and even Cranky's confirmed it, the "green" WD drives stop spinning if not in use. It takes ~1 sec to get back online.
 
Power was the reason I invested in a 2 Bay NAS long back. However, the cost of just a 2 Bay NAS without HDD's today is about 13-15k. (One that can run transmission, serve DLNA, FTP & HTTP downloading etc.).

Now with the problem of space (or maybe larger files to backup) I was looking at the following:

(Criteria: RAID, Power Consumption, Logical Space, Physical Space)

Amazon.com: Synology DiskStation 8-Bay (Diskless) Network Attached Storage - Black (DS1812+): Computers & Accessories

Amazon.com: Qnap Network Storage Server (TS-419PII-US): Electronics

Amazon.com: Drobo FS Beyond Raid 5-Bay Gigabit Ethernet SATA 6GB/S Storage Array with Drobo PC Backup: Electronics

Of course, these are beyond the budget mentioned, but then, probably the cost saving on power, space and management can be worth it.
 
Power was the reason I invested in a 2 Bay NAS long back. However, the cost of just a 2 Bay NAS without HDD's today is about 13-15k. (One that can run transmission, serve DLNA, FTP & HTTP downloading etc.).

Now with the problem of space (or maybe larger files to backup) I was looking at the following:

(Criteria: RAID, Power Consumption, Logical Space, Physical Space)

Amazon.com: Synology DiskStation 8-Bay (Diskless) Network Attached Storage - Black (DS1812+): Computers & Accessories

Amazon.com: Qnap Network Storage Server (TS-419PII-US): Electronics

Amazon.com: Drobo FS Beyond Raid 5-Bay Gigabit Ethernet SATA 6GB/S Storage Array with Drobo PC Backup: Electronics

Of course, these are beyond the budget mentioned, but then, probably the cost saving on power, space and management can be worth it.

That is really an understatement, to say the least. :P
 
To clarify my usage, the largest part of what my rig does is serve media and files over the network and run uTorrent 24x7 (more up than down, FWIW), none of which are zero CPU tasks. Yes, a NAS will be even more frugal on power, and an AMD Sempron rig will have more available juice for any kind of crunching such as media conversions etc (though due to clever software the Atom 510 almost as quick as my Athlon 620 at some media tasks). You can also downclock the Sempron to save more power, and the cost will be pretty close to that of the Gigabyte boards you saw. However, there is still a real power saving, and I crunched the numbers - for 24x7 operation over a three year period with 30W power consumption difference - which is a very conservative estimate, the Atoms save close to 800 units. You can squeeze even more by opting to use a Pico-PSU, which will deliver a few watts of incremental savings. All of this adds up over time, unless of course you have equipment failure and then the counter resets.

It's all about what your needs and budget are at the end of the day. I saw the Asus and it's wasted on a dumb terminal (unless it isn't). Also it has 'only' 6 ports, which means not enough for me. Plus, after adding a CPU the cost is about 3x of what one of the Gigabytes will be, I had a similar setup a few years ago with one machine doing everything, running a AMD Phenom 9950 and with 5 hard disks inside for overnight downloading (at which time the CPU was downclocked to 800Mhz). It was foolish but it lasted till I finally got a gaming rig. Even then, I had a reasonably competent 24x7 machine that doubled as a surfing and daily use machine. Only after being hit with very high bills relentlessly did I realise the need to drop down to a proper low power setup. Believe it or not, the savings dropped me into a lower usage bracket and reduced my bills by about 400/- a month.

The Atom 510 and 525 are almost perfectly balanced between consumption, horsepower, footprint and TCO for tasks like this if you add a PCI SATA card. It may not be the best solution for everyone, but for me it is. I suspect given your needs, it might also be the best for you.

Now, to specifics -

the processor which is going to be main power consumer, will almost always remain in its lowest energy state when the NAS is idle.

Lowest energy state of a AMD Sempron 140 is higher than Atom D510 at medium power levels. You cannot compare these two platforms on power consumption. And as pointed out, the main power consumer is the drive, and the drive spins down. You don't need RAID 1 to maintain perfect data backup, disk shadowing software does the same thing for free and on disks such as WD Green which are not friendly to RAID boxes and OSes (the whole reason WD introduced the so-called Audio/Video drives)

I do not recommend atom boards with SATA expansion cards because:
1. Sometimes LAN chipsets are on PCIE bus, Thus less available bandwidth for both of them
2. NAS OS like freenas, Unraid, Nexenta are very picky about Hardware. Better keep the hardware as simple as possible. You might end up having driver issues.

1. As opposed to being on what bus? The PCIe bus is 5Gb/s per lane. A PCIe 1x connection serving a Gigabit an is using 20 percent of its available bandwidth. The Atom boards also do not have a PCIe slot, just PCI. Now let's add SATA 1 speeds on four ports (300Mb/s each), the IDE slot bandwidth (133Mb/s per device) and the PCI slot bandwidth (133Mb/s) and assume it's coming off of one lane. It still doesn't max out the lane. You might need to put the numbers down before committing statements of this kind.

2. Yes, and all of these are first tested on Intel hardware. Unless of course, you have personal experience of incompatibility with Atoms and NAS OS, which I'm eager to hear given that this is the kind of usage the Atom was designed for. In addition, most add-in cards have pretty solid Linux support because they've been part of storage subsystems forever - what do most servers run in terms of OS? In terms of storage controllers? If there is an area of concern it's with Home OSes such as Win7 and Win7 x64. Those are the OSes that are the worst in terms of driver support.

Why I recommend 8 GB RAM and Freenas
1. Freenas Recommends 1 GB RAM for every 1 TB of Data, and DDR3 RAM is cheap
2. Freenas runs on a pendrive ( no need to waste a whole harddisk for installation)
3. Freenas has ZFS
4. Its Free!!

I agree with point 4 wholeheartedly. It was my first choice too. However (and I had tried FreeNAS for a bit before going Windows) I was not willing to reformat 11TB of data drives with 8 TB of data on them and nowhere to keep it all temporarily. FreeNAS would not work unless I reformatted all of them to ZFS. Granted, it's a one-time process but it's more suitable for those who are literally going ground-up. The stupidly large memory footprint was simply not needed - 8GB RAM is cheap today but you're fooling yourself if you think your array is going to remain at the same size forever. When you upgrade your disks, you will have to add RAM if you don't want the NAS performance to drop. I ultimately found too many issues with FreeNAS so Windows 7 HB was used, and it is enough for this, really.

the HDD's run all the time. If you know which disks you need & if there is a mechanism to safely turn off particular disks then you can go for it

Just to confirm the WD Green drives spin down after about 5-10 minutes idle time and take about 5 seconds to initialise (this means everytime you access data after the drive has spun down, you wait for a good 6-7 seconds before your request is served, Of course, the drive is always available after that till the next idle cycle. In practice, it feels a lot better than it sounds. This is one of the reasons they don't work well in RAID arrays, they are optimised for quiet and low-power operation whereas RAID arrays demand high performance drives and offer instant availability of data.
 
1. As opposed to being on what bus? The PCIe bus is 5Gb/s per lane. A PCIe 1x connection serving a Gigabit an is using 20 percent of its available bandwidth. The Atom boards also do not have a PCIe slot, just PCI. Now let's add SATA 1 speeds on four ports (300Mb/s each), the IDE slot bandwidth (133Mb/s per device) and the PCI slot bandwidth (133Mb/s) and assume it's coming off of one lane. It still doesn't max out the lane. You might need to put the numbers down before committing statements of this kind.

2. Yes, and all of these are first tested on Intel hardware. Unless of course, you have personal experience of incompatibility with Atoms and NAS OS, which I'm eager to hear given that this is the kind of usage the Atom was designed for. In addition, most add-in cards have pretty solid Linux support because they've been part of storage subsystems forever - what do most servers run in terms of OS? In terms of storage controllers? If there is an area of concern it's with Home OSes such as Win7 and Win7 x64. Those are the OSes that are the worst in terms of driver support.

Brilliantly put. Just adding to the highlighted point - Most of the comments on DX also mention that this works driver-free, without issues in Linux.

PS: My purpose, and even of a few others like Gannu, djmykey etc is exactly the same. Serving media over the network and keeping backups of existing data.
 
cranky
1. The OS are as such compatible with processors, be it intel atoms, E350s, Sandy bridges, ivy bridges or buldozers. The actual compatibility needs to be checked with the chipsets that manufacturers use to put together boards to keep costs down. For example, realtek 8111C is compatible and supported by freenas 8.0 but realtek 8111F is not supported. Atheros 8131 a common Lan chip is not supported. Freenas , being based on Freebsd has a lot more compatibility with hardware, it gets worse with Unraid. The compatibility also needs to be checked when using SATA PCI cards and what chipset they are based on.
2. The minimum recommended required RAM for Freenas is 4 GB. Any less then that and ZFS prefetch is disabled which may hamper performance FOR SATURATING GIGABIT LAN (i am not shouting, just emphasizing) . It will do just fine for a Mbit network. Any how the OP has a Plan for 6 x 2 TB = 8 TB. Going by recommendation of 1 GB RAM for 1 TB data, 8 GB RAM is still fine.
3. I agree migrating 8 TB of data would be a Pain, but then freenas has the ability to import NTFS, EXT2 partitions. You may have not known this at that time.
4. Disk shadowing softwares are fine, but it is almost like RAID1 so you get 50% less space. RAID5 (RAIDZ) is better. And RAID5 is not possible with shadowing software
5. Head on to freenas forums. every body is using green drives. No problems reported. The RED drives just released by WD are meant for NAS implementing hardware RAID. TLER is of not a high concern when using an OS like Freenas which implement RAID at software.
6. Virus, Fragmentation problems associated with windows/NTFS
7. Robustness of ZFS at detecting and correcting file system errors compared to NTFS
8. For hardware, yeah, the AMD rig will idle at around 100W compared to Atom at 55-60 Watts, But one can get much, much expandability with multiple PCIe slots, one can add a SATA PCIe card, an extra Gigabit card for some extra performance. With the atom, you get tied down.
 
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I'll respond on pt 1, 3 and 4.

1. I'm confused. You say FreeNAS compatibility is not certain with every specific hardware combination, and a few posts ago you said you recommended it. I don't understand your point.

3. It's not migrating. It's about storing the data before the migration/importing it is to happen. If you have 8 TB of data, you need to have 8 extra TB of disk space over and above your NAS capacity in order to successfully migrate unless you built the array piece by piece. Wasn't realistic to me at least, and though I do know it would be possible to get the box to run a torrent client with perseverance, I decided to throw some money at the problem to make it disappear.

4. Point is well taken, RAID 5 results in less space shrinkage than RAID 1 or file shadowing. Which is not an issue with me (and I admit it may be for a lot of others) as gievn the age of my data and the number of hard drives, I don't always need to maintain 1:1 copy.

For a long time, it was closer to about 30/70 (30 percent in 1:1 backup, rest as single copy) until I got more storage. Over time, I will release more space and not need to maintain a 1:1 backup any more for certain data sets. For example, I have about 700GB Audio CD rips, stored in 4 locations. Such surplus is not needed, so that's about 1.4TB of used space that can be freed up almost instantly if I need it while still maintaining full redundancy. Such flexibility is not on the cards with many solutions, so I just took a call and stuck with it.

Every user is unique and needs to take decisions according to what works for them, as will the TS. I've said before in one of my long rambling posts that what we post needs to be well-researched, come from personal experience and be genuinely helpful - because it's not just the TS who is readin this but the whole world, and we have to be careful what we commit to in writing. It doesn't hurt to have many voices as long as they make sense.

On another note (to touch upon the last point you made) I think you confused my posts - there was a conversation about hardware NAS boxes (not your post) that the RAID/WD Green point was aimed at.

So tell me this, what exactly did you do in a situation like this - a Sempron and FreeNAS? That's what you said earlier so I'm assuming you have a setup like that and it's working for you. And that's a great thing. Real experience always helps :)
 
Let me put it this way, hardware support of NAS OS is less compared to windows as hardware manufacturers sometimes dont bother to release drivers for unix. What i wanted to point out is if there can be driver issues with as common a thing as LAN chip, it will get even worse with PCI/PCIe SATA adapter cards which the OP is thinking to put to cater to his drives. There are Cards which work but that has to be thoroughly researched first and then purchased. I still recommend freenas inspite of the work that needs to be put in because it is a NAS os. It is specifically made to serve the purpose of NAS. It beautifully caters to the function of a NAS with the cheapest hardware. It also provides failure against 1 (RAIDZ) and 2 (RAIDZ2) hard disks all the while protecting data from the write hole issue of conventional hardware RAID and that too, on much much cheaper hardware. basically one gets enterprise class data redundancy at fraction of the cost.
Using windows for purpose of a NAS is overkill plus losing the advantage of a small footprint, dedicated to NAS operating system. Plus ZFS if using Freenas

As i have posted in one of the earlier posts, i am running a Freenas box with G620, H67 Intel mobo, 16 GB DDR3 RAM and 5 X 2 TB WD greens in RAIDZ (RAID5) configuration. With the introduction of plugins in Freenas 8.2, adding UPNP servers, itunes server, transmission etc is easy. I have also for sometime have run a configuration of an AMD7750 BE + Gigabyte 780G S2P + 8 GB DDR2 RAM and 5 harddisks, This set up also worked flawlessly.
 
Sei, it's more than 15 days after you started the thread. Have you bought the system already? Or are you still looking for HW options? :)

BTW, for OS, I compared Windows (any edition) vs Linux (Ubuntu Desktop and Server) vs FreeNAS.

I found that targeted systems like FreeNAS are too limiting when it comes to versatility and flexibility.
Allow me to explain, my current NAS uses Ubuntu Server. I can monitor HDD temps, proc temps, can tune and monitor system with readily available tools like ethtool, smartctl etc etc. Not to forget Webmin plays a big role in system management since NAS is run headless in 99% of instances. I am not sure if all these things can be done with FreeNAS.

During my tests on FreeNAS 0.7.2, Samba performance suffered a lot and was a serious deal-breaker even after I was impressed by its footprint and ease of use. I was kind of helpless since nothing could fix the issue. However, Ubuntu (or Linux in general) support is easy to come by.

IF you are concerned about performance, take this from my personal experience that Ubuntu Software RAID is as fast as anything out there. There is an old review (dont have link handy) that clearly proved Ubuntu Software RAID to be faster than any NAS OS out there.

Window is good but will be an overkill with its GUI which is really not required. It would be perfectly fine if you end up with Windows given the ease of use it offers. However Software RAID is out of question in that case. (Not looking at Intel Matrix Storage Manager).

Note : Do not cut corners by buying cheap PSUs. HDDs are pretty sensitive to voltage fluctuations and are easy to kill :lol:. Go for VIP (by Kunhar) PSUs if you are short on budget. Highly reliable for the price point. I have a batch of VIPs running for more than 5 yrs (oldest is 9 yrs) and are still in active service. :hail:
 
IF you are concerned about performance, take this from my personal experience that Ubuntu Software RAID is as fast as anything out there. There is an old review (dont have link handy) that clearly proved Ubuntu Software RAID to be faster than any NAS OS out there.

This is where I start getting scared. At office I will advocate RAID a lot coz its the company paying for the disks. But when it comes home.. I really cannot afford that much of disk space.
Also I'm not sure how easy it is to recover data from a Linux RAID or any RAID for that matter if any corruption occurs.

And I read if we keep FAT / NTFS disks on a Linux machine the performance kinda suffers. Am not sure now how far has the support come. This is why Linux despite being so good and all, I cannot go for it with a easy mind.

These are my personal opinions, it may be wrong, you might not agree with me, but I am entitled to one right :)
 
I, for one, would appreciate that all those in the same boat (however small or big) for a new NAS setup, keep updating this thread with progress reports/ notes :)
 
1. As opposed to being on what bus? The PCIe bus is 5Gb/s per lane. A PCIe 1x connection serving a Gigabit an is using 20 percent of its available bandwidth. The Atom boards also do not have a PCIe slot, just PCI. Now let's add SATA 1 speeds on four ports (300Mb/s each), the IDE slot bandwidth (133Mb/s per device) and the PCI slot bandwidth (133Mb/s) and assume it's coming off of one lane. It still doesn't max out the lane. You might need to put the numbers down before committing statements of this kind.

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PCIe is not a bus in the strict sense, it is actually point-to-point. So such analysis is meaningless for PCIe.

So if you have a NIC and a SATA PCIe card, both will be directly connected to the system using dedicated x1/x4 etc. lines instead of sharing a common "bus" like the old PCI used to.
 
This is where I start getting scared. At office I will advocate RAID a lot coz its the company paying for the disks. But when it comes home.. I really cannot afford that much of disk space.
Also I'm not sure how easy it is to recover data from a Linux RAID or any RAID for that matter if any corruption occurs.:)

bah! lost my last post just because new TE system chose to log me out.

from what I read, Linux Software RAID is quite is easy to recoever. I have not personally encountered disk failures or others yet. But I did change my OS drive a couple of times and mounting the RAID back was a breeze. Couple of commands at shell and there you go.

Why don't you run a proof of concept system for a week or two. Try different failure scenarios and see if the RAID can recover gracefully. We will try our best to help you. :):)
 
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