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There has been just 2 freaking issues I have had with my NUC.
1. If i use the Wifi , then my BT & also 2.4Ghz Mouse lags like hell.
Initially I thought that it was the NVme SSD which was being thrashed while downloading torrents, that resulted in the system slowdown.
But once I connected through Ethernet, the Mouse did not lag at all.
2. This NUC will not do 4k 60, 10 bit color depth- you have to dial it down to 4K 24/30 to get 10-bit . Bit of a bummer.
Needless to say, I have the updated drivers and Bios.
I have one question - i have 2*16Gb DDR4 installed on this, but never seen more than 30% utilization.
Please tell me that the rest of the RAM is "somehow" being useful ?! I don't use Sleep mode.
1. If i use the Wifi , then my BT & also 2.4Ghz Mouse lags like hell.
Initially I thought that it was the NVme SSD which was being thrashed while downloading torrents, that resulted in the system slowdown.
But once I connected through Ethernet, the Mouse did not lag at all.
2. This NUC will not do 4k 60, 10 bit color depth- you have to dial it down to 4K 24/30 to get 10-bit . Bit of a bummer.
Needless to say, I have the updated drivers and Bios.
I have one question - i have 2*16Gb DDR4 installed on this, but never seen more than 30% utilization.
Please tell me that the rest of the RAM is "somehow" being useful ?! I don't use Sleep mode.
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1. Read a white paper by intel where they have laid out their issues with wifi and bt interference. The easiest workaround, use any 1inch or 2inch USB extension cable or dongle, that will resolve it
2. Will try it out but my tv itself is a cheap one so I guess it doesn't have true 10 bit but some kind of simulated 10bit..For 4k blurays, youtube, Kodi I didn't face issues on the tv...haven't had a chance to plugin my home theater to this yet need to get a new bulb and this covid has screwed my plans...can you direct me to a video, will check and let you
there was an option in windows which I saw yesterday but decided not to turn on...HDR ...have you turned that on?
Haha and so are you for not being able to figure out a nuc and saying it is trash
I'm just glad I didn't trust in your technical advice. Imagine if some other users believed you when you said you are technically astute and aren't able to use a nuc properly.
The amount of issues and fake things you typed about nuc. I haven't faced a single issue yet while using a machine which is less than 1/3 the price of a mac mini
Bravo stalking me btw very mature
Maybe it's not the NUC that is the problem. Maybe the windows os is the problem here.
I have a low end celeron nuc with just 4GB ram and it can play 4k 10bit from YouTube properly. My os is Xubuntu though. These NUC can easily playback 10 bit hevc too.
Try LibreElec. Download it and use the LibreElec usb writer to write it to an 4/8GB sdcard or usb drive. Boot from that drive and play the 10 bit files. LibreElec needs like 400MB to run and most of your 16GB memory would be lying free.
Edit: download link for generic x64 pc image.
download link to the usb writer
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y2s
Level E
Man! - why do you have to be like this -
I posted about a pretty well documented issue on hades canyon nucs with vega graphics. Your model with intel integrated obviously doesn't have this issue, I never gave advice to not purchase an NUC. You in fact made comments along the lines that I was an Idiot for getting one, yet were unable to come up with a better alternative. Also you referred me to his thread when I asked for your recommendations. In view of this It's best you don't talk about maturity and stalking.
1/3 price for 1/3 performance. So a good price/performance ratio in all honesty. I've had a few NUC's in the past and aside for some HDMI Issues, they've been good enough for me to recommend them as clients for commercial use in large environments because of their price, modularity, power consumption and warranty. I'm actually glad you came around to liking an NUC. But for some reason you choose to keep attacking me with these baseless comments.
It's a limitation of hdmi 2.0. Anything higher than 4k60 requires hdmi 2.1 which currently is supported only by ampere and big navi.
You may enable chroma subsampling to 4:2:2 if you must have 10 bit.
@Chaos :
1.I am not aiming to game on this NUC.. So anything >60Hz is not required.
My use case is be to able to play the 4K UHD rips @23.976 fps at HDR10, 10-bit color depth, with 4.4.4 chroma. (ideally even 4:2:0)
Right now, to be able to do that I have a workaround of manually dropping the Refresh rate to 24Hz in Intel Gfx Command Center and that enables 10-bit ( in fact 12-bit color depth) output to my TV .
My chain is : NUC (HDMI port) --> Marantz SR 6013 --> Sony X90H
2. How do i enable chroma subsampling to 4:2:2 on the NUC? and will that be better to the workaround fix that I have stumbled upon.
Also, will using the DisplayPort output be any better, PQ wise ( atleast that will avoid the LPSCON intermediary)
I use MPC-HC, MadVR for playback.
1.I am not aiming to game on this NUC.. So anything >60Hz is not required.
My use case is be to able to play the 4K UHD rips @23.976 fps at HDR10, 10-bit color depth, with 4.4.4 chroma. (ideally even 4:2:0)
Right now, to be able to do that I have a workaround of manually dropping the Refresh rate to 24Hz in Intel Gfx Command Center and that enables 10-bit ( in fact 12-bit color depth) output to my TV .
My chain is : NUC (HDMI port) --> Marantz SR 6013 --> Sony X90H
2. How do i enable chroma subsampling to 4:2:2 on the NUC? and will that be better to the workaround fix that I have stumbled upon.
Also, will using the DisplayPort output be any better, PQ wise ( atleast that will avoid the LPSCON intermediary)
I use MPC-HC, MadVR for playback.
Ideal is to use 10 bit at 24p if possible instead of chroma subsampling. The latter is lossy. For ideal playback, you should always match the refresh rate of the display to video frame rate.
With MPC-HC it is easy - just setup custom refresh rate for each resolution and video type - madVR will take care of everything else. This is what I do.
Okay, i read up on this Chroma thing a bit.. It seems Movies & Video today are in 4:2:0.
4:4:4 is really required for achieving Text clarity on PC.
The PC/Game/Graphics mode on the TV , will always force 4:4:4 if using TV as PC Monitor.
So, i am okay with setting it to 4:2:0 with 10-Bit ( or higher color) and 4K 60Hz.
Q is : how do i force the 4:2:0 in the NUC !
4:4:4 is really required for achieving Text clarity on PC.
The PC/Game/Graphics mode on the TV , will always force 4:4:4 if using TV as PC Monitor.
So, i am okay with setting it to 4:2:0 with 10-Bit ( or higher color) and 4K 60Hz.
Q is : how do i force the 4:2:0 in the NUC !
Elessar
Level D
Is the NUC running fine with the 2666 MHz Ram? Is is automatically adjusting to the 2400 speed?
Yes working flawlessly I am uing Ballistix 2666 version (which I had earlier put up for sale)