Microsoft wants to completely move Windows OS to the cloud in future.

6pack

6pack

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Source - The Verge

Windows 365 is a service that streams a full version of Windows to devices. So far, it’s been limited to just commercial customers, but Microsoft has been deeply integrating it into Windows 11 already. A future update will include Windows 365 Boot, which will enable Windows 11 devices to log directly in to a Cloud PC instance at boot instead of the local version of Windows. Windows 365 Switch is also built into Windows 11 to integrate Cloud PCs into the Task View (virtual desktops) feature.
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Probably like windows 365 where you have to pay subscription costs per month. Funny they are taking always on gigabit internet connection as granted. Even the US doesn't have access to cheap gigabit internet connections everywhere. This was in their internal presentation it seems. So take it with a truck load of salt.
 
6pack said:
People will pay or pirate or run the os till it dies but never switch to Linux. They will always be stuck in that windows world.
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True. If people can be taught to utilise linux early on then it should be possible.
I mean most of the important softwares such as office are available online.
Unless you work with a software that only supports Windows, switching to LTS version of any mainstream linux would be useful in long run.

Plus most of the deep learning frameworks and code are written for linux first.
 
Linux does have a "problem" when it comes to desktop environment. Windows and macOS technically have only one desktop environment, so for better or for worse, it is easier for common people to get used to the layout.

Linux is and will remain for enthusiast unless the new user experience is significantly safer and there is clear option to rollback to full windows.
 
www.pcmag.com

Windows 12 May Require a Subscription

References to subscription 'edition,' 'type,' and 'status' found in a test build of Windows.
www.pcmag.com www.pcmag.com

As Neowin reports, an INI configuration file in the Windows Canary channel, discovered by German website Deskmodder, includes references to a "Subscription Edition," "Subscription Type," and a "subscription status."

We currently have two main versions of Windows 11 - Home and Professional, which cost a set price and include free updates for the lifetime of the operating system. It looks as though Microsoft may change that for Windows 12, with the upfront cost replaced by an ongoing subscription charge which would limit access to features based on the subscription tier chosen.
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6pack said:
www.pcmag.com

Windows 12 May Require a Subscription

References to subscription 'edition,' 'type,' and 'status' found in a test build of Windows.
www.pcmag.com www.pcmag.com
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Meh .. each and every commercial software in use today has a subscription model. It's about time the operating system follows suit. Took them long enough to figure out that this is only way they can keep making good $$. While everyone can choose to hate it, there is also the Office 365 subscription thread here.
 
6pack said:
Windows 12 May Require a Subscription
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No thanks please. I no longer use Windows.

All Homo sapiens should be exposed to Linux from their childhood to rule out the problem of toxic familiarization most humans have developeded with Windows. Application developers will only consider Linux as a viable platform iff Linux gains noticeable market share on the desktops.

Linux Mint is a genuinely great option. Need to push more resources in this one distro and make it the de-facto alternative for Windows. All other distros are there for the enthusiasts who want to tinker and stuff.

Ubuntu has taken a bizarre stance with Snap. Even something as small as system calculator is a Snap app. Mint disables Snap by default, thankfully.

AFAIK, the entire goal of human race has been to make stuff as resource efficient as they can possibly be made. Both Snap and Flatpak appear to be evolving backwards in this regard. A simple web browser weighs nearly a GB (or more than that?) in Snap. Can't tell for others but I am never going to waste that much data even if it's a one time download. For eg. For two QT based applications that are built with two differnet versions of QT, Snap/Flatpak will pull multiple gigabytes of dependencies. There will be duplicates of the same stuff with differing version numbers. Basically like OSes inside OSes.. And more OSes.. Idk how this makes any sense. Who has spare disk space or bandwidth to waste? And for what? Calculators and web browsers?
 
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6pack said:
www.pcmag.com

Windows 12 May Require a Subscription

References to subscription 'edition,' 'type,' and 'status' found in a test build of Windows.
www.pcmag.com www.pcmag.com
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Neowin's 'subscription-based Windows 12' rumour is actually "Windows 11 IoT Enterprise Subscription"​

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1719mko

Windows 12 is not going to subscription only and it's coming next year.

www.windowscentral.com

Intel tease suggests 'Windows 12' really is coming in 2024

The next version of Windows is now being teased by one of Microsoft's biggest partners.
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rootyme said:
Both Snap and Flatpak appear to be evolving backwards in this regard.
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They are trying to create a strong sandbox model to isolate the os and apps. Not perfect but they are improving with releases. Disk space is cheap.
 
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IoT is an area which should never go with subscription model.

msft already have few versions of their own Linux distros. Better make Windows GUI a layer over Linux kernel, will be a great model :)
 
TEUser2K1 said:
IoT is an area which should never go with subscription model.

msft already have few versions of their own Linux distros. Better make Windows GUI a layer over Linux kernel, will be a great model :)
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No one in enterprise would update any windows systems till eternity if that happens... Else everything in the universe would break down ;)
 
TEUser2K1 said:
IoT is an area which should never go with subscription model.
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I actually have a different opinion. If the iot service is running locally, it makes sense to not have any subscription cost. Let the user manage their own instance of the server, controller, networks, remote access. Just pay for the hardware, and manage it yourself. Most users aren't capable of doing this, or simply don't have the time/can't be bothered to set this up.

On the other hand, if the controller is running on the iot company cloud, I'd rather they charge a subscription and stay in business, as opposed to just relying on hardware sales cost to offset cloud/development/maintenance and eventually going out of business (has happened before, insteon for example who abruply closed down in early 2022). Hardware sales will reach a saturation point, and you aren't really going to be replacing your iot devices regularly unless they break down.

Right now company/divisions that aren't charging a subscription fee are in deep loss. Alexa for example had a round of layoffs, the only reason alexa division isn't closed down, is because AWS is printing money and they can afford to take the loss (until they don't, like they decided to close down dpreview, and later sold it).

The most exciting thing to me right now is interoperability of vendor devices, using open protocols like matter/thread. This way services can be built to support a different vendor devices, even if the vendor company folds.
 
> The most exciting thing to me right now is interoperability of vendor devices, using open protocols like matter/thread. This way services can be built to support a different vendor devices, even if the vendor company folds.

This should be mandatory, will reduce capital, electronic waste pollution, etc. hugely saving environment.

Subscription model unless carefully utilized will be evil, there are already many voices concerning this. Greed creeps in, the interoperability model tends to get disrupted, etc. and harms customer's interest unless they are very big corpns who don't care much about money.

As far as alexa is concerned, income assumed is from usage and data collected. Don't think most average person used creepy tracking thing in their homes. Was totally expecting it to fold off.
 
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