MS after IP University!!!

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If a person has a good academic record in school, 90%+ throughout and decent with extracurricular activities like Member of School Computer Club etc(DPS RKP), if he joins the one of the best colleges in IP University in Delhi (Maharaja Agrasen Institute of Information Technology) and performs good and applies for MS in the Ivy League. Do you think he can get admission and scholarship there? Assuming a good record throughout.
This is for a friend...
 
Things that count for MS -

Performance in Graduate Degree (performance up to grad degree does not matter)
GRE/TOEFL Score
RELEVANT extra curricular activities/papers published etc
Recos + SOP
Work Exp - again if it is relevant to the course
Provable Financial Liquidity

getting admission is not that big an issue - 60% aggregate + ~1300 GRE is good enough to get into Stanford.

Scholarship is not at all likely in the 1st year - if you excel in the 1st year, you may get for the 2nd year

AFAIK if the grad institute is not an IIT/IISc - it does not become a factor for admission.

Ofcourse in institutes of lower renown the chances of scholarship go up.
 
soggy has summed it up pretty darn well.

the only case where a lesser known UG institute might matter is in a case where a senior of yours might be at the same institute as where you are applying to. depending upon the said seniors performance at the institute, your app might be treated favorably or otherwise.

also financial liquidity is very very important. dont ever expect aid up front unless you are some ultra genius iitian with a a coupla patents and 5-6 papers in reputed international journals.

ps-when speaking about extracurriculars like publications nd all, our normal 'paper presentations' in competitions at various colleges dont count. you need authentic research work for it to count
 
How is this?

One of the toppers in IPU

Good GRE/TOEFL say 1400-1500

Member of computer club and active in computer events

Other projects or extra curriculars at college including summer workshops

Course which doesn't require work experience

Upper middle class background

Good academic record since beginning of school

Don't know what is SOP etc

1.Is this good enough to secure MS admission in Ivy League along with oppurtunities for research and financial aid to minimize the cost of MS.

2.Does it matter too much whether he does CSE from IPU top colleges or Manipal provided he meets the above mentioned parameters?

Upper middle class background
 
rite said:
How is this?

One of the toppers in IPU good
Good GRE/TOEFL say 1400-1500 good
Member of computer club and active in computer events minor +ve effect
Other projects or extra curriculars at college including summer workshops minor +ve effect
Course which doesn't require work experience If you have work exp good, not having experience is not a negative for MS
Good academic record since beginning of school Does not matter
Don't know what is SOP etc He will find out :P

1.Is this good enough to secure MS admission in Ivy League along with oppurtunities for research and financial aid to minimize the cost of MS.

Financial aid & opportunities for reseach are not necessairly related - Aid in Ivy league for 1st year is next to impossible unless [quote name='sTALKEr']you are some ultra genius iitian with a a coupla patents and 5-6 papers in reputed international journals.
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2.Does it matter too much whether he does CSE from IPU top colleges or Manipal provided he meets the above mentioned parameters?
No - unless it's an IIT/IISc

Upper middle class background
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all they need to see is that you can pay for the full course without aid
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Hope that helps
 
rite said:
How is this?

One of the toppers in IPU

Good GRE/TOEFL say 1400-1500

Member of computer club and active in computer events

Other projects or extra curriculars at college including summer workshops

Course which doesn't require work experience

Upper middle class background

Good academic record since beginning of school

Don't know what is SOP etc

1.Is this good enough to secure MS admission in Ivy League along with oppurtunities for research and financial aid to minimize the cost of MS.

2.Does it matter too much whether he does CSE from IPU top colleges or Manipal provided he meets the above mentioned parameters?

Upper middle class background
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Like soggy316 and sTALKer mentioned, admission should be possible, but scholarship from the first semester itself will be a bit difficult. From what I have noticed, the number of people getting scholarships has fallen, especially in the last three years.
 
well, soggy has already done the needful :)

phd students are the ones who get the financial aids more often...only 8-10% of the ms applicants get aid in the form of either TA/RA/GA along with the fee waiver at the time of admission...TA depends upon your toefl score in speaking section...RA depends upon your research background as mentioned in your profile...TA/RA can later be acquired based upon your performance...besides, these are univ and program specific, some univs are liberal while others are not depending upon their endowment...most of the students get it after their 1st sem...also you have oncampus jobs where in one is paid $7-$8 per hour at min, so a part/whole of the living expenses are covered...and SOP(statement of purpose) means a lot, plays a very imp role in an admit or reject...a candidate with great profile but bad SOP can well be rejected...
 
Is this good enough to secure MS admission in Ivy League along with oppurtunities for research and financial aid to minimize the cost of MS.
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Ivy league = Ultra expensive.. do keep tht in mind.. tuition alone comes to arnd 30-35k per year.

there are a whole number of other equivalent and even better colleges even if they aint Ivy league. Ivy league is just a bunch of good, PRIVATE univs..

there is this whole system of State Universities which are also as good as Ivy league colleges and a lot cheaper too.
 
is there a chance of good scholarship in other good colleges which are almost as good as Ivy?
 
dude!!!

Scholarships are NOT meant for MS.

IF you are good, and can convince your univ/prof/dept of the same, you MIGHT get em from 2nd sem/2nd year onwards.

unless you have a standout profile you will not get a scholarship along with your admit right upfront in a decent college.

there are however a bunch of univs that do offer a few selective tution waivers.. in the range of 20-40% of the normal tutions..
 
rite said:
is there a chance of good scholarship in other good colleges which are almost as good as Ivy?
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are you/your friend going to shortlist the univ based upon the scholarship given out by the univ??? that is not what one does...you need to find out univs which have good active research going on pertaining to your program of interest, what you want to specialize in, job prospects after degree, internship opportunities, coursework at the univ...it need not be the case that all the univs in ivy league will have good coursework as to what you wanna specialize in...
 
rite said:
How is this?

One of the toppers in IPU
Good GRE/TOEFL say 1400-1500
Member of computer club and active in computer events
Other projects or extra curriculars at college including summer workshops
Course which doesn't require work experience
Upper middle class background
Good academic record since beginning of school
Don't know what is SOP etc

1.Is this good enough to secure MS admission in Ivy League along with oppurtunities for research and financial aid to minimize the cost of MS.

2.Does it matter too much whether he does CSE from IPU top colleges or Manipal provided he meets the above mentioned parameters?
Upper middle class background
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the GRE/TOEFL score doesnt matter anyhow...if its bad its a negative, but if its good its not a positive
above average grades are alright
the actual research that you need in the CV is not there in whatever you mentioned above.... workshops dont count :)
your friend will surely get admission, but no schol.
 
basically i want to enquire that chances of getting MS in a good univ. after comp sc engg in manipal or cs engg from maharaja agrasen institute of technology( under IP university Delhi) .... as in does anyone know which of the two would be a better option keeping in mind future prospects n that i am from delhi
 
BTW offtopic question: How is University of Florida and how is it ranked in the US and globally?
 
yeah. BTW do MOUs really mean anything??? How does it matter if JIIT has MOUs with UF and University of Berkeley. Who does that help?
 
^^it may help.... or it may coz problems

it is sort of an exchange program for a semister or something...under that, a fixed number of students may go for exchange
the problem in my college was that 2 were denied from going because the quota for the year was over :)

dunno if it helps for further studies though
 
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