41-50k MSI 4060 + 12400f 47k

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Getting a MSI VENTUS 4060, 16gb ram (not sure 1 or two sticks), 12400f, asrock pro rs for 47k, do you think this is a good deal to take?

Extensive Specs:
MOTHER BOARD
ASROCK B760M PRO RS WIFI
INTEL CORE 15 12400F
RAMXPG D30 16GB 3200MHZ DDR4
Nvidia Grapics CardMSI VENTUS 2X RTX4060 GPU
Deepcool 650W PSU512 GB SSD
All the components are under warranty
5 coolers

Ofcourse its second hand, but guy lives nearby, can do f2f.
 
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Expensive. New CPU, mobo, RAM & PSU will cost like ~25k. 22k for used 4060 is not worth it, considering a new 4060 starts around 27k (even lower on some sales).

FYI I recently sold in TE my out of warranty i5 12400 + B660M + 2x16GB RAM for 15k.

IMO ask the seller to bring down prices, say to at least 40k, else put in like 65k for a new build with 2x16GB RAM & 9060XT 16GB (original part list excludes cabinet & cooler, included 12400F for calculation).

Under 75k rig:

I generally don't recommend CPUs w/o iGPUs but you can get 12400F instead to save 3-4k.
 
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Yeah on the side I am also being offered 13500 + Gigabyte Aorus Pro B760m for 24k.. Worth? Gotta get new ram aswell for it tho

OMEGA44-XT said:
Expensive. New CPU, mobo, RAM & PSU will cost like ~25k. 22k for used 4060 is not worth it, considering a new 4060 starts around 27k (even lower on some sales).

FYI I recently sold in TE my out of warranty i5 12400 + B660M + 2x16GB RAM for 15k.

IMO ask the seller to bring down prices, say to at least 40k, else put in like 65k for a new build with 2x16GB RAM & 9060XT 16GB (original part list excludes cabinet & cooler, included 12400F for calculation).

Under 75k rig:

I generally don't recommend CPUs w/o iGPUs but you can get 12400F instead to save 3-4k.
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I will get that ram + mobo + 12400f in 25k? My calculations are all putting me atleast at 30k for a bare minimum b760m that wont fry itself (had 2 mobos fry themself on me so a little traumatized), and basic ram

tam0w said:
I will get that ram + mobo + 12400f in 25k? My calculations are all putting me atleast at 30k for a bare minimum b760m that wont fry itself (had 2 mobos fry themself on me so a little traumatized), and basic ram
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On that note, you are prolly talking about ddr4. Makes sense. I already have some ddr4 components left over so this might be the best call. Do you guys think its okay to pair 13500 that I'm getting in a DDR4? Will that limit my cpu performance significantly?
 
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Yeah on the side I am also being offered 13500 + Gigabyte Aorus Pro B760m for 24k.. Worth? Gotta get new ram aswell for it tho


I will get that ram + mobo + 12400f in 25k? My calculations are all putting me atleast at 30k for a bare minimum b760m that wont fry itself (had 2 mobos fry themself on me so a little traumatized), and basic ram


On that note, you are prolly talking about ddr4. Makes sense. I already have some ddr4 components left over so this might be the best call. Do you guys think its okay to pair 13500 that I'm getting in a DDR4? Will that limit my cpu performance significantly?
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Even a high end mobo can get fried if you are unlucky. That Mortar mobo I linked is good enough for even i5 13400, but for gaming you gain nothing worthwhile by spending extra on 13400 over 12400. For productivity, there are decent gain for the 2-3k extra.

12400F (9k) + Mortar mobo (10k) + 2.5k for 16GB RAM & 4.5k for PSU makes it 26k for new parts.
 
What do you think of this mobo and the 13500? Could I make that work?

My mobos being fried is too depressing, two of them in similarish ways, something to do with putting them to sleep, but they were really ass motherboards, and it maybe couldve been thundering + pc being in sleep or something.
 
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What do you think of this mobo and the 13500? Could I make that work?

My mobos being fried is too depressing, two of them in similarish ways, something to do with putting them to sleep, but they were really ass motherboards, and it maybe couldve been thundering + pc being in sleep or something.
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Definitely no.

An i5 13400 will barely work at full performance with its 6+4 core config in B760M Mortar with its 110W power draw. An i5 13500 will easily cross 150W, none of the budget B760s can handle it. Spend 14k+ on MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI at least.

Again, no visible benefit moving to even an i5 13500 for gaming. Say a "puny" 8 core Ryzen with 3D cache (9800X3D) will always outperform it in gaming when CPU limited (budget GPUs will hit the GPU bottleneck first, so no benefit upgrading CPU beyond i5 12400 or R5 5600 before you reach say 5070/9070 as GPU). For productivity on a budget, sure can risk getting an i5 13500, but after the Intel fiasco, 13th & 14th gen are a no from me, so buy at your own risk.
 
Thanks for your help. Being offered a 5600x, ROG Strixx b-550m pc without its GPU.. what do you think is a fair price? No warranty, I am thinking something around 28k is the max I'd pay
 
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Thanks for your help. Being offered a 5600x, ROG Strixx b-550m pc without its GPU.. what do you think is a fair price? No warranty, I am thinking something around 28k is the max I'd pay
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Detailed specs?

For just CPU & mobo, its a waste of money & time deal. New R5 5600 + a new decent B550M mobo will cost like ~20k.
 
nono, its the entire pc except GPU

4K-capable high-performance gaming PC with premium components. Perfect for AAA gaming, streaming, editing, and heavy multitasking.

Specs:
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X – 6 Cores / 12 Threads
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F WiFi (WiFi + Bluetooth)
• RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600MHz
• Storage: 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
• Case: MSI MAG Gaming Case
• PSU: Corsair 80 Plus Rated

4K Ultra Settings Ready (GPU dependent)
Just add a graphics card and you're ready to go.
 
tam0w said:
nono, its the entire pc except GPU

4K-capable high-performance gaming PC with premium components. Perfect for AAA gaming, streaming, editing, and heavy multitasking.

Specs:
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X – 6 Cores / 12 Threads
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F WiFi (WiFi + Bluetooth)
• RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600MHz
• Storage: 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
• Case: MSI MAG Gaming Case
• PSU: Corsair 80 Plus Rated

4K Ultra Settings Ready (GPU dependent)
Just add a graphics card and you're ready to go.
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The SSD is useless at this point. Which case & PSU? Get the exact models? Warranty?

Assuming a case similar to MSI 120A, at least a 650W bronze Corsair PSU & no warranty, I'd say 22k or so as you can buy new parts at under 35k w/o SSD (SSD & HDD are not very useful, so need to buy a separate SSD anyways). The build I posted earlier can be used for reference, but with i5 12400F.

I won't pair a R5 5600/i5 12400 with anything more than 9060XT/5060Ti realistically (can somewhat stretch to 9070XT for 4K gaming). My previous rig had i5 12400 + 7900GRE, observed some CPU bottleneck in few games like CoD BO6 MP.
 
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