CPU/Mobo My ebay sale messed up, need advice

hellfire

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Hi guys. You might have seen the Athlon XP 1800+ Palomino I had put up for sale in the Market section. Well, I ended up selling it on ebay.in for Rs.1300. But now I'm in a problem. The buyer sent me Rs.1300 in advance and I sent him the processor. Now he says the processor is overclock damaged and he wants his money back. I swear I never ever overclocked the processor in all the 3 years I had it :( . The guy says he installed it, configured the dip-switches and heard high-low beeps which in IBM code means overclocking damage to the processor.

The processor was in perfectly working condition. I had asked on the forum about a dead motherboard (Asus A7V no POST no beeps). But the processor itself was working fine on a new motherboard I had purchased, a Gigabyte A7N400VM-RZ. The only nag I faced was that on installing this processor and my old 266MHz DDR-RAM on the new motherboard, ACPI bios detection failed in Windows XP Pro installation. So I had to install XP with F5 workaround and detection as Standard PC. Anyways, the point I want to convey is that motherboard failure had nothing to do nor had any effect on the processor.

Moreover, I asked him to return the processor and I'll return him the money after visaul inspection of my processor. But he wants me to return the money first. Either he doesn't know how to install the proccessor (but he says he has 10 years experince of hardware assembling) or he has ****ed up my processor somehow.

Please tell me guys what to do now? This thing has left such a bitter taste, I'd probably never ever deal online again :(
This is the situation in buyer's own words
after instaling your cpu,system

gives continues high and low beeps which means Locked
Damaged CPU DUe to overclocking or etc.

....

I did nothing wrong with your cpu, I have Asus a7vmx
400 main board with AMD 2600+ cpu, the system is
running fine For installing your cpu I pulled out my
cpu and puts in your AMD 1800+ by setting my system
FSB to 133*2=266(as of your AMD 1800+) through DPI
switches, but on booting there is no post but only
beeps I know more then 85 beep codes for different
bios and motherboards.

I have tried every possible effort like swapping rams
clear cmos resetting CPU with default FSB.but nothing
works.
 
well there is no motherboard that can detect the damage due to overclock.
Also tell him to reset the CMOS and then put the CPU in. Tell him to keep in mind that T-bred( which he has) works at 1.5v vcore and the palomino works at 1.75v.
So if he did not clear the CMOS sometimes the system dosent boot as it does not set proper parameters for the new CPU.

And yeah if you decide to give his money back then get your product back first.
 
as funkymonkey said , motherboard can not detect overclocking done on the processor before or not . as you have not , it is something else . i'm pretty sure he is lying . yeah be careful about switched cpu . do not forget this : get the product inspect it BEFORE YOU SEND THE MONEY BACK
 
yes..tell him to send back the processor, but make sure you keep the evidence that the processor is working fine, like a small video of BIOS boot.....then noone can stop you :ohyeah:
 
get the piece back first then send money back, if he gives you more trouble point him to this page :ohyeah:

You can actually try contacting Ebay's support, tell them everything, they take these kind of situations VERY SERIOUSLY! since they are new and don't want to spoil their reputation (they changed their name because bazee was going down after "dps clip sales" and the manager was arrested, they'll make sure to prevent stuff like this in the future) So wait first, ask him to return the pice and promise him that you'll return the money.
 
BTW if u havent told him what mobo u had, tell him u had an ASUS A7n266-VM mobo...in tht mobo, ocing is disabled :ohyeah: he cant accuse u in anyway......
 
The guy's bluffing, i echo everyone and say i've never heard of any beep codes that indicated that a processor has been overclocked!
Either way, looks like he's upto no good if he wants you to return his cash before returning back the processor. Lets assume you had deliberately sold him a dead proc, you would obviously have no intention in getting the processor back once the money had switched hands. He would know that and obviously wouldnt use the proc as a bargaining tool.

Try your best to get the processor back, as you mentioned your proc still has a few months of warranty left on it, so even if he has messed it up you might be able to get a replacement. But i do hope you remember your old proc's part number etc, assuming he has switched the proc with another model.
 
Just ask him to register here and post his query.
Many hardware geeks here will "know" within a few postings whether the cpu is damaged or not.
This way both of you will not have to take pains in sending and receiving stuff unnecessarily and our member list will increase by one.:D
 
Thanks for all the help guys. Maybe I'll report the entire matter to ebay. Or else, let him resort to purchase protection programme. I could have directed him to this place or tried to help him but not after the way he behaved. Quoting from the first post-delivery email I received from him:

I am working for harware since last 10 years so dont
say now,you dont knows the instalation.
But friend tell me why you do this?????only for 1300
rupees
...
My God!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is no meaning of faith left now from

persons like you,but just think you allready knows
about your cpu, then you must care person like

I really cannot help him after all that he has written :O
 
^^ that sucks mate, but keep ur cool. If u r willing to refund him, tell him so and say that u cud easily accuse him of being a crook too who fried up ur CPU but u r not accusing b'coz u know better than that. Tell him since he says the CPU is dead it wud be of no use to you too if he ships it to you, so let him ship it to you and you wud take a look at it and refund him the money accordingly (if that is what u wanted it to be).

something similar happened to me once. I had sold my KT133 board n 900MHz Thunderbird to a friend for 3k (1.5k+1.5k). A week later i realised what I had done (I mean how cud I ever sell the Thunderbird!!!!!! how stupid of me) and wanted to talk to him about it. I had a spare Palamino 1700+. I thot I wus exchange teh 1700+ for my 900Mhz. But he was outta town on business. a few days later he returned and one night i get the dreaded call.. he says he fried up my CPU. There was a power surge and he was not using a UPS. the birdie was no more! I was totally devastated, but cudnt do much. Anyways, I sold him the Palamino 1700+ to him for 1000 bucks. ;)

And, if he doesnt agree to this, report him to e-bay. Tell them everything. Also show them proof of ur communication (FWD them teh emails) showing that you had offered him to return his money back if he sent u the "dead" processor, an offer which he has vehemently refused. Also tell them that he's mostly trying to cheat you and that you dont want to earn a negative rep because of him. Hope that helps.
 
As many people have suggested,all this guy must have done is :
1.Never checked the fsb speed jumpers on his mobo
2.Destroyed the cpu himself during installation(think about it man,the cpu core is exposed on all athlons and a novice could easily crack the core during hs installation)
In either case,I say ignore him-its nor ur fault.
 
I agree with the gang, he must not be using a jumper free bios and must have changed his jumpers accordingly...

EDIT : Masky whas wrong with a Thunderbird ? AFAIK they were one of the best AMD Proccy's up there with the P3 Tulatin if I may :P
 
Aces170 said:
EDIT : Masky whas wrong with a Thunderbird ? AFAIK they were one of the best AMD Proccy's up there with the P3 Tulatin if I may :P

Nothing wrong with them.. only I did the wrong thing in selling it to my friend! :(.. i luved that CPU soo much u know.. partly b/coz it was a T-bird but mostly b'coz it was my first CPU! sadly, its dead now.. :(

n hellfire, ne updates?
 
Nope..

T-bird 900MHz to T-bred A 1800+ to T-bred B 1700+ to Barton 2500+ to Winchester 3000+

KT133 to KT400 to nF2 to KM400 (for a month) to nF4

man.. waay too :offtopic:
 
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