Narayan Murthy vs Chetan Bhagat

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viralbug said:
There corrected.

Corrected again. :P
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Then you need a correction somewhere else .

Murthy has a point .

Chetan Bhagat only has a tweet .

A murthy's company has given food to a lot of people , That job may or may not be important to you but it has lead to development of a lot of people . He should come back when he can achieve the level Murthy is at .
 
Lord Nemesis said:
IIT's should be recruiting guy's who have a natural knack for technology.
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That is true, but is there a practical and a standardised objective way to gauge that on a scale of 400,000 people?
 
When Indians came from no where to beat Americans in IT jobs; they never pointed fingers to their Engineering Institutes.

They identified the problem was lying at primary and secondary school level where children needed to develop enough curiosity in Maths and Science so they could pursue Engineering and Medicine studies. The same can be applicable to Indians but rather then waiting for children to develop the natural interest in Maths and Science, parents push them hard towards those subjects so students WORK HARD and get good NUMBERS in school exams. That results in false conclusion that Indians are good at Maths and Science during school years and hence fit enough for challenges of Medicine and Engineering studies which again becomes WORK HARD and get good NUMBERS for college students, rather then take INTEREST and do RESEARCH.

On the other hand when accomplished Indian IT company's former head goes to US and announces the level of IIT's are going down, the future employer (US Companies) of IITians will take note which wont reflect well.
 
Infosys to shift focus on hiring IIT students of lower quality

Bengaluru. After its founder Narayana Murthy revealed that 80% of the IIT students lacked quality, Infosys has decided to hire only the lower quality students from IITs from this year onward. The software giant has said that it didn’t really need any higher quality IIT student for the kind of jobs one has to perform in an IT company, which could be carried out even by non-engineers.

“They just need to work as project managers and shift around the names of employees in an Excel sheet,” Nandan Pai, an HR manager with Infosys said, “We realize that it doesn’t really need a high quality IIT student to perform that work. And frankly, we never were looking to hire the best brains from the IITs.”

The comment by Narayana Murthy has been well appreciated by most IT companies

“But it’s official now – we are interested only in the lower quality IIT students,” Nandan said.

Nandan further disclosed that since most of the IT companies in India were experts only at outsourcing and back-office operations, many of them actually feared the quality of IIT students going up.

“A higher quality student doesn’t come cheap; he will expect higher salaries and better facilities. If the quality of IIT students go up, recruitment and HR costs go up,” Nandan explained, “You won’t believe but my last employer had clear instruction for teams going to IITs for recruitment – hire the worst of the lot, just to get the brand IIT on board, so that we can win some projects from clients in the US.”

He said that while Infosys didn’t have any such official recruitment policy for the IITs, the company decided to come out of the closet after the comment by Narayana Murthy.

“The best brains at IITs anyway don’t opt for Indian IT companies,” Nandan justified the approach of his former employer and shift in recruitment focus by Infosys, “The supposedly best go for finance and trading jobs, so I guess the Investment Banks and Brokerage Firms would take care of the 20% who were marked as having good quality by Murthy Sir.”

“Research? There is a separate course at IITs for that, no?” Nandan responded when Faking News asked whether the “higher quality” students opt for research as well.
 
Even banks and trading firms do not require IIT's of that calibre. A decent commerce graduate with an mba or iim grad can do the job in those places.
 
That point by Nandan Pai just about sums up the state of the 'IT' industry in India. Most jobs don't even require folks from Comsci backgrounds. It is a financial burden to the company and an insult to the Comsci to copy paste stuff from one sheet to the other
 
avi said:
Infosys to shift focus on hiring IIT students of lower quality

Bengaluru. After its founder Narayana Murthy revealed that 80% of the IIT students lacked quality, Infosys has decided to hire only the lower quality students from IITs from this year onward. The software giant has said that it didn’t really need any higher quality IIT student for the kind of jobs one has to perform in an IT company, which could be carried out even by non-engineers.

“They just need to work as project managers and shift around the names of employees in an Excel sheet,” Nandan Pai, an HR manager with Infosys said, “We realize that it doesn’t really need a high quality IIT student to perform that work. And frankly, we never were looking to hire the best brains from the IITs.”

The comment by Narayana Murthy has been well appreciated by most IT companies

“But it’s official now – we are interested only in the lower quality IIT students,” Nandan said.

Nandan further disclosed that since most of the IT companies in India were experts only at outsourcing and back-office operations, many of them actually feared the quality of IIT students going up.

“A higher quality student doesn’t come cheap; he will expect higher salaries and better facilities. If the quality of IIT students go up, recruitment and HR costs go up,” Nandan explained, “You won’t believe but my last employer had clear instruction for teams going to IITs for recruitment – hire the worst of the lot, just to get the brand IIT on board, so that we can win some projects from clients in the US.”

He said that while Infosys didn’t have any such official recruitment policy for the IITs, the company decided to come out of the closet after the comment by Narayana Murthy.

“The best brains at IITs anyway don’t opt for Indian IT companies,” Nandan justified the approach of his former employer and shift in recruitment focus by Infosys, “The supposedly best go for finance and trading jobs, so I guess the Investment Banks and Brokerage Firms would take care of the 20% who were marked as having good quality by Murthy Sir.”

“Research? There is a separate course at IITs for that, no?” Nandan responded when Faking News asked whether the “higher quality” students opt for research as well.
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Superb!!!

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IIT exam panel behind poor student quality: Super 30 founder

PATNA: Anand Kumar, who founded Super 30, Bihar's widely acclaimed free coaching centre for Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) aspirants, has blamed the institutes' entrance exam panel for the poor quality of students making the cut, a concern voiced by Infosys chairman emeritus NR Narayana Murthy.

Anand Kumar said if poor quality students, as felt by Narayan Murthy, were able to get into the IITs, it was the responsibility of the joint entrance examination (JEE) committee.

He said that students went to private coaching institutes simply because they don't find the school education system up to the mark for the JEE.

"The IITs should frame questions in such a manner that the real talent reaches there. The IITs should try to bring in greater transparency and have a proper examination pattern," Kumar told IANS.

"It is because of the lack of knowledge about the IITs' pattern that the students have to run around the coaching institutes to acquire that little bit extra, which makes the ultimate difference," he said.

Anand Kumar, who welcomed the reforms announced by the IITs for the JEE, said that the students needed to be applauded, rather than criticised. It is their hard work that makes them crack arguably the toughest competition.

"Once the students reach the IITs, it is the job of the teachers there to provide the environment where they grow. Blaming the coaching institutes will not solve the problem. It is the professors and the teachers to teach in a manner that brings the best out of the students, who are from different backgrounds and social classes." he said.

He said it was a shame that in a country like India, Hindi is plays second fiddle to English. Just because students cannot speak English, his talent can be undermined.

Addressing a gathering of hundreds of former IITians at a 'Pan IIT' summit in New York, Murthy said the quality of students entering IITs had deteriorated over the years due to the "coaching classes that prepare engineering aspirants".

Anand Kumar's Super 30 has helped many poor students from Bihar to enter the prestigious IITs. He had set up Super 30 to prepare 30 students for the IIT-JEE in 2002, providing free boarding, lodging and coaching to the selected aspirants. In the last nine years, 236 students from Super 30 have made it to the IIT-JEE.

Most of the successful candidates have been from the less privileged sections of society.

Anand Kumar, who could not go to Cambridge University in the UK for higher studies due to extreme financial constraint after the death of his father, started the Ramanujam School of Mathematics in 1992 and founded the Super 30 a decade later.
 
sam88 said:
When Indians came from no where to beat Americans in IT jobs; they never pointed fingers to their Engineering Institutes.
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Indians didn't beat Americans in shit, we are just willing to work for a lot less than them.
 
Orija said:
Indians didn't beat Americans in shit, we are just willing to work for a lot less than them.
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If one is offering same level of service for substantial lower price and still able to manage hefty profits; thats definitely called beating the other one.
 
Then the people slogging around in 15 hour shifts in sweatshops for a pittance definitely beat the westerners too.
 
Saw TOI's front page news today. IIT directors siding with Mr. Murthy.

Poor kid Chetan got slapped on his face lol (metaphorically).
 
"I have always been a little irreverent in my tweets. I didn't take his comment on my college lightly and so tweeted about it. I didn't realise ... but then later I apologised for my tweet," says Bhagat.
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Oh, yeah. His book is released today.
 
^^ Lol NO...it got released on Friday in InOrbit Mall, Mumbai. I had got the book on saturday itself from infibeam ! In one word he wanted some cheap free publicity which he got just before the launch :)
 
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