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KingKrool

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Well it says that TVs and other electronic gadgets can be discussed here.
So here goes.
I need to buy a new HiFi. Budget = 12k
DO NOT NEED DVD playback - I already have a brand new DVD player. But MP3 + CD-RW is a must (VCD is optional cos my DVD player supports that oif course, but most systems in this budget will support it as a default feature).
Am not really a fan of CD changers, so a single cd will do (but if it has a cd changer I do not mind). Basically I need excellent sound quality, will settle for 1000W (do not need the 3000W or anything like that specifically). As I said, sound quality is more important to me. I have been using an old Sony system b4 of VERY high quality (much better than most of the stuff I have heard here, especially Akai, Aiwa and some of the older Philips), and ATP3 on my comp, so clearly I am somewhat spoiled in that department.
Of course the rest is usual - auxilliary audio inputs, two cassette deck, radio blah blah. A two speaker setup will be fine. I am not really interested in upping my budget.
I looked at the Sony RV-22 today (actually I went to the Sony world here just for the heck of it and since he asked me what I wanted I thought I might as well look at HiFis). Is it any good? Can you guys suggest comparable models (from any easily available companies - that means Pioneer is out. Basically, I guess I am looking for Sony, Phillips, maybe even Samsung)
 
Yeah, build up a component based system instead of the generic all inclusive Mini/Midi systems from the Sonys/Panasonics/Aiwas...
And yes, it is possible to build a component system within your budget
 
i purchased a Sony CMT HPX 7 .. although Sony discontinued the model now .. but it gave me the worth for my money ..

it was simple music system and 5+1 cd changer.. (+1 for micro disk)

and no VCD / DVD ..

now that it aint comin .. chek for its upgrade..

50 RMS|Music CD |MP3 |AM/FM|remote| for my system .. wot cud i possibly ask for more in 11k if i wasnt intrested in visual attachments..
 
A component based system? Well, I DO need cassette decks, whatever chaos may say. I need an audio CD player (playing music CDs on a DVD is a pain, you need a TV switched to be able to start up and navigate conveniently), and I DO want a radio. Why? Cos Radio Mirchi's tower is about a kilometre from my house and I get CD quality sound (well, maybe not CD quality, but it is really good quality). And which components do you think will fit the budget? If you can suggest components easily available in India (company, model etc), do tell.
 
sorry to have 4gotten to mention dude..

it has a single cassette loading compartment also ..

CD-R/CD-RW supported as well ..

so AM/FM | Music CD | MP3 playback | 5 CD blah blah blah .. (As mentioned b4 .. :P)

(but no TV o/p jack ..)

its a nice system as per my requirement and u need to take a look at it .. its really neat ..
 
I would scrap cassette decks altogether. Are you going to buy new cassettes? No? then that's good enough a reason because all your old cassettes will have caught fungus by now (as have mine) and will ruin the nice, new head of the unfortunate player that you put them into.

Just buy a good amplifier and a pair of speakers. Use your existing DVD player for audio CD playback. If you can't do that then exchange it and go for a philips/other Divx player with all-in-one functionality. Then connect this to the amp.

This makes for a perfect system in my opinion - considering your budget constraints of course. HiFi systems utterly suck. My once-jazzy-as-hell Aiwa "3300 watts PMPO" has completely fallen apart now. The 3-cd changer doesn't work as don't the dual cassette decks! It's been reduced to an amplifier that I output sound to, from my computer (music) and DVD player!

Please don't get sucked in with the marketing spiel that they throw at you. Look at computers for example. Think of what you can pick up if you assemble the system yourself as opposed to buying a pre-assembled system from an HP/Compaq or XXX company.
 
had tht sonodyne unisat 2 or whatever in mid 80's hmm ..btw tracerbullet my dad has over 500 600 cassette collections and they runs perfectly sound quality aint tht gr8 compared to cd quality but they r just awesome!!! sound quality kicks off any casettes of these days ..they r mostly original ones and mostly r western music.
 
x86 said:
had tht sonodyne unisat 2 or whatever in mid 80's hmm ..btw tracerbullet my dad has over 500 600 cassette collections and they runs perfectly sound quality aint tht gr8 compared to cd quality but they r just awesome!!! sound quality kicks off any casettes of these days ..they r mostly original ones and mostly r western music.
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If the sound quality doesn't match CDs then how are they awesome?! Err yeah my cassette collection is comparably large. I have drawers and drawers of cassettes which I no longer play though, cause they're half fungus-eaten and my cassette deck doesn't work.

I'm a huge fan of music too. In fact, I'll dare to say the unthinkable but I'm first a musician and musicaholic and then a computer enthusiast. I was listening to music before I even learnt how to operate a mouse so there! Cassettes are dead, but Long Live Cassettes if you insist.
 
yea i kno they r dead but oon a typical sunny afternoon dunno feels good to listen these old casettes ... say for some beatles or rod stewarts..
i neva said thry r good i said tht they dont have fungus in it :P they works if they fails just some "bunp bump" knock on the table and it works..vintage stuffs :P
 
^^if you prefer tht old scratchy sound then try the old record disks..nothing sounds better..i mean if you are really in a mood for some retro stuff..perfect for a bob dylan/beatles/elvis special evening!!

I've got a few old records and also my dad's old and rustic gramophone player which i sometimes play just to get nostalgic about good ol'days..tellin u..no 196kbps mp3s come even near in setting up your mood like the old scratchies do!! :)
 
A bit off track aren't we?

And as for reliability, well I am not about to buy Aiwa. I don't know why the hell you did - when I said I had heard crappy systems here I was referring to the Aiwa I heard at a shop. (The sony at the same shop was great). And btw, my last system lasted for over 17 years. Things started going bad only when there was a power fluctuation (back then our electricity connection was from the society common). Everything was down hill after that.

I already have the latest Philips DVD (5106k). And as I said - it is a pain to navigate because you need to have the TV switched on to see the song name! Older systems did not have any facility to see the song name, but then, older systems didn't play MP3 disks with a couple of hundred songs on them.

End result - I need a music system. It can be component based, WITH A CASSETTE DECK. Please don't tell me what features I need. I KNOW what I need, and I need a cassette deck. I have a lot of tapes, in excellent condition (no fungus) which I cannot play because my old system has gone kaput.

I would still be willing to do without the song name feature (ie. reuse my existing DVD player) but I still need an AV receiver, radio, speakers, amplifiers, cassette deck and whatever else is necessary to put a system together. Which company sells the components I need? Onkyo is expensive, and I don't know where I can get it in Pune.
 
LG! Oh no! I will check out the sound reproduction, but I do not have high hopes. It will be difficult to convince my parents to buy LG anyway, we have bad experiences with them.

It is funny how that company has gone to the dogs, back when they were called goldstar (now they arew lucky goldstar), and were unknown, their products were much better.
 
Chaos said:
Get an MX5021 and attach a DVD player. Doesn't get any better ;). All consumer brands suck in audio quality :P. Else look for sonodyne monitors and a decent amp. Give up cassette decks... they are useless.

Edit: You might wanna look at this setup. Will fit in you budget I think

http://www.sonodyne.com/Genie-Powerpack.htm
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Chaos just wanna confirm is the MX 5021 better than the 621?? music qual wise. I need a good 2.1 that I can cart around a bit...the MX is bulky ain't it...
could the woofer be packed in a small airbag, with T shirts etc around to protect??? The carton is big..unnecessarily I feel
 
vandal said:
Chaos just wanna confirm is the MX 5021 better than the 621?? music qual wise. I need a good 2.1 that I can cart around a bit...the MX is bulky ain't it...
could the woofer be packed in a small airbag, with T shirts etc around to protect??? The carton is big..unnecessarily I feel
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MX5021 is a lot more neutral sounding than 621. The sub is a lot punchier too. Overall they are much more accurate. However don't buy it if all you want is a lot of bass.
 
Chaos said:
MX5021 is a lot more neutral sounding than 621. The sub is a lot punchier too. Overall they are much more accurate. However don't buy it if all you want is a lot of bass.
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which 2.1 do u recommend based on what I told u...
see I got the bigger 5.1 and 7.1 setups @ home..this is for chennai and when I am on the go..mostly mumbai n bangalore...I have been known to carry a spare 5.1 soundcard and drivers with me (that should tell u loads abt my music tastes..only thing is it shouldn't weigh a bomb or look like goliath...I need a david here..price well no bar isn't accurate.....say 8K which is good enough for a 2.1...what do u think, is the bass weak on the 5021??
No I want crisp highs too...bass shouldn't be weak but no need for boomers...the Z5500 does that very well..paid for the being luggage wise overweight this holiday season when i went on leave...
KK Sorry 4 messing with ur thread... :P
 
No probs.

Guys, if I want to build up a component based system, what components do I need to buy/obtain/have? I know nothing of such systems.

Also, if I go for something like the MX5021, I won't need an Amp right? But won't I still need an AV reciever or something? And what is that monitor you referred to Chaos?
 
The MX5021 only requires an audio source and nothing else. The amp is integrated into the sub. The sonodyne system is also the same though it has a separate amp. Its a kit comprising of speakers+sub+amp. So additionally, you need to get an mp3-cd player and tape deck if you need tapes(which'll have FM as well).
 
vandal said:
which 2.1 do u recommend based on what I told u...
see I got the bigger 5.1 and 7.1 setups @ home..this is for chennai and when I am on the go..mostly mumbai n bangalore...I have been known to carry a spare 5.1 soundcard and drivers with me (that should tell u loads abt my music tastes..only thing is it shouldn't weigh a bomb or look like goliath...I need a david here..price well no bar isn't accurate.....say 8K which is good enough for a 2.1...what do u think, is the bass weak on the 5021??
No I want crisp highs too...bass shouldn't be weak but no need for boomers...the Z5500 does that very well..paid for the being luggage wise overweight this holiday season when i went on leave...
KK Sorry 4 messing with ur thread... :P
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Bass is definitely not weak. I always have mine set at 1/5 dots(the minimum). However don't expect stomach churning bass like the z5500 which imho is exactly what booming is.... better than the creative inspires but still crappy loose behind the beat bass. mx5021 is accurate bass. you can make out each and every single instrument producing it (say bass guitar and bass drums in case of rock) but it won't be floor shaking unless you max the bass out on the sub. (Not Recommended!). Also poorly encoded mp3s sound crappy. You can easily make out the difference between 128/160kbps mp3s and 256/320 kbps mp3s. You'll get it for around 8.3K or so. But if you like Z5500, then first audition the mx5021, it sounds extremely different to the z5500.... which you may or may not like! Get a good soundcard btw, else the experience will be ruined. I use an Audiotrak Optoplay usb interface.
 
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