Need advice : a microwave oven and a RO water purifier

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Arihant.EXE

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My bro needs to buy these two appliances.
Budget for microwave convection :10k
For RO :read on

Well. . .i know nothing bout microwave but if anyone can suggest me a good one within 10k
He need a microwave with convection and grill

Now the RO part,
Well i was keen on buying him a kent RO system but there are some more companies which are offering their RO system within 7-8k price while the kent one is about 14k
So any advice which one to go for?
:)
Thanks in advance

Arihant
 
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Arihant.exe said:
My bro needs to buy these two appliances.

Budget for microwave convection :10k

For RO :read on

Well. . .i know nothing bout microwave but if anyone can suggest me a good one within 10k

He need a microwave with convection and grill

Now the RO part,

Well i was keen on buying him a kent RO system but there are some more companies which are offering their RO system within 7-8k price while the kent one is about 14k

So any advice which one to go for?

:)

Thanks in advance

Arihant

1. M/w Oven:

The IFB-30SC2; A very decent model; Had seen it recently; 30L; Pretty decent turntable; Price's around 10k+; Check its specs here:

Compare India - Microwave Ovens - IFB-30SC2

I really dont trust Samsung and LG cos of the bad impression they'd left me on ACs so I dont recommend them either. :(

IFB's have had good product reviews as my dealer'd suggested as well as some of my friends. :)

2. RO water purifier:

I don't think u can get an RO water purifier for <12k.

The technology's expensive and it comes for a price;

Kent's recently started advertising their products [Hema Malini FTW!!! :ohyeah:] although they were into the mkts for a long time.

Kent makes only water purifier systems so they make some good quality stuff.

Anyhow, here're some models:

:: Kent Mineral RO Systems | Water Purifier System :: >> Product Portfolio > Mineral RO

Also look out for Eureka Forbes' W/P systems which's been flooding the mkts since ages:

Eureka Forbes Limited :: Water Purifiers :: Product Range

The cheapest of them is this:

Eureka Forbes Limited :: Water Purifiers :: Aquaguard Total Ro Smart

which's priced around 4k lesser than as that of the entry-level Kent RO system. :)

Gannu
 
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a piece of advice: stay away from ifb.. their after sales service has become real bad of late. For the microwave advice woulld be samsung/lg.. or if u can up ur budget panasonic.

no idea bout ro.
 
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well i dont have much info on Microwave.
Regarding RO :

Is the water supply borewell or is it municipal?
This question is vital as if you are not having water supply which is hardened by extra minerals you dont need a RO system for the routine purpose.

In general, municipal water supply is sourced from rain water harvesting bodies so it is soft and it does not require RO system.

so if Municipal water supply is there then your brother needs a water purification system not RO.

For purification there are two ways to go either UV based or Ultra micro filteration.

For UV there is Eureka Forbes and for Micro Purificatin there is Permionics and iirc Phillips also have it.

And if the need is RO then
Hitech is a good company with a number of models and there are number of machines are working in my group.
 
Oh . Okie doc . .the water which comes to us is already soft and treaten by the municipal bodies well . .he just wanted to get a water purification unit installed at his home as a measure of extra caution . I'll tell him to go for a uv system then

@gannu - how do u think are the kenstar microwaves . .i had a look at them yesterday and i found a model @ 9490 bux which looked good with convection too. I was planning to get that for him . .
Any information regarding kenstar microwave ovens will be appericiated :D

Arihant
 
Arihant.exe said:
how do u think are the kenstar microwaves . .i had a look at them yesterday and i found a model @ 9490 bux which looked good with convection too. I was planning to get that for him . .
Any information regarding kenstar microwave ovens will be appericiated :D

Arihant

I'd suggested IFB cos I was pretty impressed with the performance when my dealer'd invited me for the demo of the model I'd suggested u [+ a couple more] when it was launched. :)
Kenstar ovens're pretty decent too; But I seriously dont've any clue abt the customer service offered by their dealers. :huh:

My cousin has an old Kenstar model [dont remember which one] which had both convection + grill; It still serves the purpose without much problems;

Is ur dealer quoting Rs. 9490 for the Kenstar-OM-26DCF???

Compare India - Microwave Ovens - Kenstar-OM-26DCF

From the reviews, it seems to be a good one. :)

Give a shot.
 
How is hindustan lever's pure-it ? i wanted to buy something in low range for my temp house. does the stored water in such purifiers gets bad after 1-2 days?
 
p_sam21 said:
How is hindustan lever's pure-it ? i wanted to buy something in low range for my temp house. does the stored water in such purifiers gets bad after 1-2 days?

can you give a link to its details?

then it can be easier to throw the light.
 
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p_sam21 said:
How is hindustan lever's pure-it ? i wanted to buy something in low range for my temp house. does the stored water in such purifiers gets bad after 1-2 days?

Its a micro-filter based storage w/p system.

Doesn't require power; low on maintenance; great VFM.

And again, it depends on the type of input to the purifier. :)
 
Orrite guys. . .so
Conclusion is:
No RO as the water supplied is pure and soft already and as a precautionary measure UV system can be installed

And an IFB microwave ,the kenstar one was the om 25 acf or something which is 25 litres and ifb was the 30 ltr one . So. .ifb wala seems to be a better deal. .

I'd like to thank all ya members and specially gannu and medpal for their confident and helpful replies :D
Thanx.
*reps*
 
HUL Pureit is a very good product. It provides water superior to boiling. Kills all germs, meets EPA germ kill standards, removes organics and pesticides, removes all particulates, water tastes good etc. etc.

It does not remove dissolved salts which are present in borewell water (hard water). So if you have municipal water (soft water) Pureit is great VFM and a perfectly safe product.

Disclaimer: I work for HUL!
 
spolygon said:
HUL Pureit is a very good product. It provides water superior to boiling. Kills all germs, meets EPA germ kill standards, removes organics and pesticides, removes all particulates, water tastes good etc. etc.
It does not remove dissolved salts which are present in borewell water (hard water). So if you have municipal water (soft water) Pureit is great VFM and a perfectly safe product.

Disclaimer: I work for HUL!

by the time i read ta first paragraph i knew there was somethin fishy here!! :bleh:
 
p_sam21 said:

from the links you have provided it works on the principle of Ultra Filteration which has a such tiny filter membrane that it filters out the germs.

but as the operating cost goes :

300 Rs. for replacement of the battery (so called Germkill function) at every 1500 liters of water.

that means you have family of 4 and 4 liters of water per day per head its 16 liters a day considering that 480 liters a month.

lets round it to 500 liters a month.

so in a year you need to change that filter kit 4 times that 1200 Rs. a year.

i dont see great VFM there.

If you dont change than filter/kit most likely it will get clogged after sometime and you have to have get it chaged.
What i am using:

Permionics Limited` Pureflo ( a water purification system based on Ultra filteraion method.)
It has a sub micron sized membrane which even filters Virus like Hepatitis. It is suitable for soft, clean municipal water supply.

It does have 4 liter storage tank so you probably never run out of water. It works on Gravity force and does not require the electricity.

No maintainance is required except flushing the wastage valve for 2 minutes daily.

cost is around 6.2 k

this is the link to the product i am talking about.

I have been using it satisfactorioy for last 3 years and there has been no problem (touch wood) till date.

there is a thread regarding the benefits and necessities of different mehtods of water purification on TE.
thread 1
thread 2
 
Hey guys. . The ifb 25 litre model,the IFB*25SC2 is available here for 10 k minimum. .
Is it worth going for it. .how much shud the 30SC2 cost?
And what is the CI price @ compare india. .m guessing it is the 'compare india' price but what significance dows it hold ?

:)
Arihant
 
@medpal

I was planning for HLL Pureit but didnt know hidden cost & didnt know it has battery too.

Thanks a ton for info
 
Praks said:
@medpal

I was planning for HLL Pureit but didnt know hidden cost & didnt know it has battery too.

Thanks a ton for info
it does not have battery.

but they have labelled their main purification instrument in the PureIt system as Germkill Battery thats why i had to use the term battery :P
 
medpal said:
from the links you have provided it works on the principle of Ultra Filteration which has a such tiny filter membrane that it filters out the germs.

This is not correct. Pureit is much more than a simple filtration apparatus. It has in addition to the filtration step, a carbon filter which removes all soluble organic impurities such as pesticides, a germkill active which kills all germs and finally a last polishing filter which removes any residual impurities and leaves the water tasting great.
If you look at the permionics product, the eact same steps are followed in that product as well. The quality of output water is EXACTLY the same in the two cases. The difference is that the membrane filter in Permionics lasts a lot longer ( and hence the device at RS 6000+ is a lot more expensive).

As far as recurring costs are concerned let me assure you there is NO activated carbon technology in the world that can be used infinitely. The activated carbon has 'active' sites that capture impurities. It is possible to regenerate some of them through backflushing etc. but it IMPOSSIBLE to regenerate activated carbon completely. This is the reason the eureka forbes purifiers need the carbon filter to be repalced periodically. So for a fair comparison, please include the cost of replacing the carbon filter in the permionics device. If you have not done so in three years, I suspect that either

a) Your supply water is great,

b) You have been not removing soluble organic impurities at all!

medpal said:
but as the operating cost goes :

300 Rs. for replacement of the battery (so called Germkill function) at every 1500 liters of water.

that means you have family of 4 and 4 liters of water per day per head its 16 liters a day considering that 480 liters a month.

lets round it to 500 liters a month.

so in a year you need to change that filter kit 4 times that 1200 Rs. a year.

i dont see great VFM there

Again lets do the math. A pureit comes with one germ kill filter.In a year with three replacements, that RS. 2700. Even after another three years, it is still cheaper than the permionics unit. And as I have stated, at that point the permionics unit would need a carbon change too. Also if you folllow through with the math the cost per litre of cleaned water comes out to be 20paise per litre (if you include only the cost of the germkill battery), or 30 paise per litre if you include the cost of the unit too over the life of the device.

Please look at

About Pureit | Affordable Price

to get a good idea as to where pureit stacks up in terms of VFM to other options.

I believe that 1800 rupees to begin with and then 300 rupees every three months is affordable to the aam aadmi and to a lot of people (compared to 6000+ rupees up front AND recurring costs in AMCs, consumables etc)

Also for those who are not aware of 'hidden' costs, the webiste mentions the replaceable battery clearly and if you contact the sales representative who will visit your home for a demo, this is explained very explicitly.
Lastly as medpal himself says it is not a battery in the conventional sense. It is a cartridge that contains the germ killing active and there is no electricity involved.

The reason I felt it was necessary to post this is that medpal is a learned and respected individual on these forums and his words carry much weight. That fact that this comes from him would be enogh for a lot of people to make up their minds.

In this case though, I felt he did not have the correct picture and people would get the wrong idea.

I realize that my views could be considered biased. Hence, i would suggest people to do their own research. Speak to people who are using Pureit and other devices. Get their feedback. If possible try and experience these products. In the case of Pureit you could even call the Pureit guy to your house, take a demo and convince yourself.

I think that all of these devices work quite well. Any device is better than no device at all. So please make an informed choice.

Medpal, I respect you as I have seen many informative posts from you on these forums. I hope you will not take this the wrong way. My intention is not to offend but inform.
 
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We had installed Nano filtration unit named "Dolphin" patented technology from BARC(Bhabha Atomic Research Center) Its a twin candle design with activated carbon and alumina filter. Its a premium model cost Rs 5400 AFAIK.
 
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