Graphic Cards Need mid range gaming card....

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I need a graphics card for mid range gaming (crysis/bioshock). My budget is up to 5k. My system configuration is :

Core 2 Quad Q6600
Intel DG33FB mobo
Cooler master extreme 600 W PSU

Preferably GDDR5 and will it be compatible with my PC rig. Also, which manufacturer to go for?? XFX, Sapphire, Asus, Galaxy etc.

Thanx...
 
In nvidia's cards and at your budget i suspect you will find a good card with gddr5 memory but here are your options.For Nvidia

1.Nvidia GT 440-96 cuda core,graphic clock-810 mhz and 1 gb gddr5 memory(price rs.4000-5000)

2.Nvidia GTS 450-192 cuda cores,graphics clock-783 mhz and 1 gb of gddr5 memory(price rs.7000-8000)

3.Nvidia GTS 250-128 cuda cores,but with 1gb gddr3 memory(is a decent performer,price rs.5500)

For Amd

1.HD 5670-1 gb gddr5 memory(again a decent performer,price rs.5200)

2.HD 5750-1 gb gddr5( a good performer,price rs.6400)

3.hd 5570-with 1 gb gddr3 memory(price rs.4750)

your processor is good and these cards will certainly limit you a little(not the gts 450)but you should have no worrys.my personal picks would be the hd 5750 or the the gt 440,but if you can go for the gts 450 you certainly should and it will be well worth your money.all these cards and also others will be compatible with your rig as all you gotta do is put these into your pcie x 16 slot which your motherboard has.And for the manufacturer asus,msi,xfx and sapphire are all recommended.hope this helps and show some mercy towards the rep button(hehe).
 
What resolution are you going to be gaming at?
In your budget your best bet would be the 5670. It's powerful enough to game at medium/medium-high settings at 1680x1050, and low power enough not to tax your Cooler master extreme 600 W PSU..
 
His 600 w psu will surely be enough to handle any of the cards i mentioned and @iamdevil the gt 440 will be slightly better than hd 5670 at a resolution of 1680 x 1050 don't you think?And if we consider the gts 250 vs the hd 5670,the gts 250 spanks its ass pretty tightly.the cons of gts 250 are only no dx 11 support.and if the op is really into dx 11 he will be better off getting a hd 5750 or a 5770 which are not in his budget.so i think the gts 250 is the best performer in his budget and it can handle some high-res action too.
 
Thanx a lot for ur replies. My monitor is 17" LCD. Moreover, since I am on a tight budget of upto 5k, I think i might go for HD 5670-1 gb gddr5.

Just a small query- What is the difference between GDDR3 and GDDR5? Any performance difference or GDDR3 gfx are also recommended??

Thnx...
 
yeah memory bandwidth, required for higher resolutions and IQ settings. if the gpu is underpowered, the higher memory bandwidth goes to waste.

HD5670 is a perfect balance, go for it.
 
I'd not risk HD5770/GTS450/GTS250 on that PSU. I'd highly suggest you to go with HD5670, it is good enough to play crysis @ 1440x900 with low to medium settings. :)
 
The Hd 5670 is (as everyone said) a good balance between gpu power and memory bandwidth and if you cant get any better you should certainly go for it.But i would really prefer stretching just some hundreds of rupees to get that GTS 250.(and believe me there will be no power issues because i have been running a gts 250 on a 450 w psu for 2 years and no problems whatsoever) And now about the difference in gddr3 and gddr5 memory.its actually pretty simple and i will be showing the difference through the example of HD 5670s memory(GDDR5) vs GTS 250s memory(GDDR3).so here it goes :

First of all: do not believe the "clock speeds" for GDDR5 . The baseline clock speed of GDDR5 is always the same as GDDR3; GDDR5 simply quad-pumps the data clock while GDDR3 dual-pumps the data clock.(remember how DDR2 ram is not running at double the speed of DDR ,but rather sending double the amount of information via every megahertz?) so the bottomline is that if GDDR3 memory is sending 2 data per clock ,the GDDR5 is sending 4 data per clock.

GDDR3 = 2 data per clock.

GDDR5 = 4 data per clock (with additional latency overhead over GDDR3).

But this is not all and the fun arises here. The thing is that the frequencies are not the only thing in play. The bus width also matters. The buses are like highways, letting data to move from here to there.so the higher the number of lanes, the faster the traffic moves. So,GTS 250’s GDDR3+ 256-bit bus width is roghly=HD 5670’s GDDR5 + 128-bit bus.And the official specs of the cards seem to confirm this.The memory clock of GTS 250 is 1100 mhz, in effect it is 2200 mhz.now memory clock of hd 5670 is 1000 mhz,but in effect it is 4000 mhz.so the GTS 250s memory clock is running at approx. little more than half the speed of hd 5670s but because of the double bus width of GTS 250 it is just slightly better than HD 5670s.the memory bandwidth of HD 5670 is 64 gb/s while GTS 250s is 70 GB/s. See the connection now? so what does GDDR5 mean if we can just obtain same results with fatter buses? It means that they can offer you a higher-performing card than the GDDR3 cards without going to a fatter bus.the GDDR5 allows one to make faster cards with the same frequencies as GDDR3s.The key to GDDR5 is enabling the NEXT generation of graphics cards without the need to go to even fatter buses, and reducing the memory power consumption vs GDDR3. It also allows the creation of cheap 128-bit enthusiast cards(which is never possible in GDDR3).The GDDR5 memory also reduces the complexity of cards than in the GDDR3 cards because GDDR3 needs many more things to sustain their high speeds than GDDR5.GDDR5 allows for cheap and better cards than GDDR3.

Conclusion : The GDDR5 is the future as the DDR2 was for DDR RAM and now DDR3 is for DDR2.And while the HD 5670 is a good choice you can get a faster GTS 250(it has GDDR3 i know,but i explained why its still faster and what all matters,read the explanation if you haven't already) for some few extra hundreds and they are a hell lot of worth it with your quad core processor.

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with your proccy the HD 5670 will be the weakling that's all(and i don't want you to settle for only a good enough gpu although your budget is tight.).and i have made the difference between the GDDR3 vs GDDR5 memory pretty understandable ,i hope you get a clear picture now.if you have further confusions don't hesitate to ask me.you can PM me too.
 
sudhanshu123 said:
The Hd 5670 is (as everyone said) a good balance between gpu power and memory bandwidth and if you cant get any better you should certainly go for it.But i would really prefer stretching just some hundreds of rupees to get that GTS 250.(and believe me there will be no power issues because i have been running a gts 250 on a 450 w psu for 2 years and no problems whatsoever) And now about the difference in gddr3 and gddr5 memory.its actually pretty simple and i will be showing the difference through the example of HD 5670s memory(GDDR5) vs GTS 250s memory(GDDR3).

Since you are a newbie, i suggest you to have look at this thread.

Even, I and other members can suggest him a GTS 250/450 but his PSU doesn't have juice to handle a system with mid or high end cards. :)
 
ok so yea i confess i dont know much about psu's now so that means you have got an upper hand on me,but i think you should really reconsider something now.every new member who joins a forum gets off with a newbie status in its rep but does that mean he/she is really a newbie?when you joined this site you were also named a newbie but are you one?no

then show some love as i am only trying to help the op(and i think that is what this forum is about) and i did not go into any technicalities because i dont know about psu's(u are right i am a newbie in psu's but not a newbie) and told him about my personal experience only( i have a sucking i ball psu of 450 w which came with the sucking case so i figured a coolermaster 600 w psu would only be better than mine) and can u also please explain to me how his psu would not be able to handle a gts 250 while my sucking one can?
 
Your sucking one iBall PSU my friend is like a time-bomb if you have rigged a GTS 250 on that and you are waiting for Diwali inside your cabinet OR maybe a live STAR WARS shoot, change your PSU ASAP to the FSP Saga II 400W atleast.

The Cooler Master eXtreme Series PSU's have a history off bad build quality, as well as poor efficiency coupled with sub-standard safety features, that is why you'll find on TE nobody recommends them in lieu the FSP Saga series / Blue Storm Pro series and Gigabyte Superb series is for the budget gamer, Corsair CX and Seasonic S12D+ Bronze series form the bulk of mid-range and the High-End is covered by Corsair, Cooler Master Silent Pro / Silent Pro Gold seres and now EoL Real Power Pro series, I run my HD 5770 on a Real Power Pro 460W.

Here are links that might help you --

FSP GROUP ::pC Power Supply, IPC Power Supply, Medical Power Supply, Adapter, Open Frame::

Non-Modular PSUs - Power Supplies

Power Supply -> Silent Pro - Cooler Master

GIGABYTE

Please don't feel that I'm trying to discourage you just be patient and don't shoot of the gun as it can lead to some embarrassing situations on the net. Welcome to TE.
 
@sudhanshu123

I did have a CM extreme 600W, and i too have a GTS 250... I was able to compare the performance between that and my current Seasonic SII 520W PSU... Trust me i could see the difference between the 'dirty' power i got from the CM extreme and the 'clean' power I'm getting now... My APC UPS had gone haywire whenever i ran furmark or any graphic intensive game, as the PSU couldn't supply the power properly.

There is a BIG difference between ~65% and <80% efficiency.As an analogy We can consider the current as fuel, so you can see the efficiency between a vehicle which has adulterated petrol and clean petrol.

@OP

Bottom line, change the PSU, that's one of the most important part of your PC. Choose a good one like gigabyte superb or FSP SAGA, or if budget permits, go for Seasonic. They are worth it.

Regards,

Nj
 
so ok, the power issues are very real and very much problematic here.op get the beloved hd 5670 and if you can afford a psu from alpha17's list or nj_gamers suggestion get a gts 250.cheers everyone :clap:
 
Thanx a lot for ur replies... I will go for HD 5670 1 gb XFX instead of Sapphire.

Although, is it true that Sapphire version runs cooler than the xfx while the warranty offered by xfx is greater than of Sapphire??
 
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