Usage Patterns:
1. Aunt (age 65) -
M21 = stock rom
Usage pattern = Calling (long hours), Whatsapp video calls, Camera photography-videography frequently, JioTV (entertaiment)
overall = don't use mobile that much, but takes photos of relatives, use google photos app for checking old photo and videos, listens to devotional songs on youtube and watch tv on jiotv.
mostly used by others for playing games and taking photos and videos. device is mostly in idle mode.
2. Sister (age 37)
Note 7s = debloated stock rom, greenify installed
Usage pattern = Calling (long hours), Camera photography-videography frequently, entertaiment apps, Social media chatting sharing, Google (sheets, docs), MS Office (excel, word), Browser (chrome or default)
overall = overall usage is about creating, editing, sharing word and excel files using different office apps (different features provided by different apps). her son use mobile for gaming (casual), youtube streams. daughter use mobile for school whatsapp and youtube videos.
and movies songs entetainment purpose.
3. dad (age 55)
POCO X2 = custom rom installed, kernel su, modules - greenify, automatic charging controller (for better battery life), BCR (call recorder) (these modules runs in background)
Usage pattern = Facebook (scrolling vidoes), Calling, Video calling, WhatsApp Chatting, Whatsapp video calling, Google (sheets, docs), MS Office (excel, word), Browser (chrome or default), entetainment apps, radio, Camera photography, camera videography sometimes
overall = camera ocassional need but performance need in day to day task, short-tempered when MOBILE does a smallest mistakes.
4. mom (age 51)
Redmi Note 7 = stock miui rom, magisk installed, modules - greenify, automatic charging controller (for better battery life) (these modules runs in background)
Usage pattern = Youtube (videos, movies), Calling (long hours), Whatsapp video calls, WhatsApp Chatting, Camera photography-videography ocassionally, radio
Overall = ocassional photography videography. watching movies, youtube videos and calling, video calling are the main things.
5. me
I decided to go with poco f5. but waiting for others to decide first.
IMO Poco F5 should be a good all rounder for those who want performance. There are plenty of gcam ports for it as well, so you've got the camera segment covered as well. Iqoo neo 7 pro shouldn't be a better option than the F5, sure you get SD 8+ Gen 1, but the SD 7+ Gen 2 on F5 is already plenty good enough.
Plus, you get good custom rom support as well.
Some rom, kernel releasers suggests omnivision camera is so bad that gcam also fails to give a good photo on poco f5. but poco f5 photography group on telegram says otherwise.
50-50 for camera.
For aunt and mom, can consider Moto G54/G84, or M34/F34 from Samsung. Lava Agni 2 is a good option as well, with its near stock android but the 6.8 inch display can be a problem.
problem with edge 40 neo that battery endurance rating by GSMArena is very low 80h.
G54 is good device but inconsistent camera better on performance & battery side than Samsung m34.
Lava not now. Need long lasting mobile 4-5+ years.
S21 FE is decent, my uncle has it and he gets between 5.5 - 6 hrs of SOT with dark mode, non gaming usage and 60hz (sometimes switches to 120hz). Exynos 2100 is not as bad as people claim it to be. If it goes below 30k, get it blindly.
that is what I was trying to do earlier but suggestions are eye opener.
battery was a concern but now we decide to buy power bank too and keep it close.
Can you guess SOT considering above usage pattern on S21FE or S23FE.
I will not recommend high performance Samsung fab made SoCs. Do your research & take the call if you want to go for S21FE S888.
Some ROM and kernel releasers, suggesting these reasons
"production was stopped long back, you'll get old units, with degraded battery"
if i get degraded battery I can test it (using accubattery and battery guru apps) and replace it with new one from Samsung service center battery production not stopped, right?
I wanted to buy best camera and mediacore performance. it seems difficult with Samsung.
there is new vivo v29 pro released now. looks like camera device. 8200 soc
Moto has very slow updates, so old devices are an easy no because of software support. G84 will get 1 OS update & edge 40 will get 2.
edge 40 dropped now. low battery life. as per gsmarena. 80h battery endurance. and 98h for edge 40.
I don't want updates. As per my opinion, updates can cause problems. I update device only when existing software starts causing trouble. Then I download full update and install it manually.
And I am still using A10 custom rom which supports all apps. so new updates and those so called security updates does not matter.
I wanted to buy samsung as dad wanted stable custom ui. And samsung has not released any new 5g phone other than m34.
S730 is around S695 for performance. Compare M51 & G84 benchmarks.
S695 not significant improvement but will do.
I was also thinking to get G84, but we will be buying galaxy watch 4 or 5, LTE or bluetooth version whichever is cheaper.
I heard that its most compatible on galaxy devices, and for others you need extra apps and modded health app from XDA forum.
GSMArena is a great place for research:
www.gsmarena.com
many new devices review will take time. till that time sale will be over. Yes I know that this is not the last sale and lowest prices can appear after sales too.
about poco f5, dad's current experience with poco x2 isn't that good. but he can buy f5.
Also FM radio basic thing missing. which usually used by dad.
Also considering poco X5 pro as many suggested camera is better in this one.
At the end you have to purchase it, so you have to put in some effort. Don't blindly believe anyone, including me. Even notebookcheck does some good reviews, but limited phone reviews. If not the same phone, check for phones with similar specs.
Okay. that will also do. I will try that checking again.
Currently decided devices are:
Aunt : iQOO Neo 7 pro
Sister : OnePlus 11R
they live in the same area so it will be easier for them to exchange their device without any problem, if they like each other's mobile.
How & Where to buy for the best deal? and what price I can expect.
should I pre-book or wait?
For S20FE, S21FE, aunt told me that she is comfortable with Power Bank. She can use power bank when necessary.
But only problem is HEAT developed. Charging will be done inside handbag and more heat will be developed from mobile and also from the power bank, will this be a problem?
Also suggest good powerbank 10000 mAh or 20000 mAh (₹2k below)
1.
boat Energyshroom PB400 - 20000 mAh
2.
boat EnergyShroom PB300 - 10000 mAh
3.
Mi Power Bank 3i - 20000 mAh
4.
Mi Power Bank 3i - 10000 mAh
Also extra cable for powerbank (₹100-200)
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https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09CMQRQM6/
2.
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B082LSVT4B/
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https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09CMM3VGK/
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https://www.amazon.in//dp/B08CF3D7QR/
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https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09Q8WQ5QJ/
Most people who trash the S21FE have never used it or seen it being used. I have one in my house. For non-gaming usage, it is simply brilliant.
SD888 version?
I will also use the same for non gaming purpose.
It has the best update schedule till A16 also, in case it matters.
Updates doesn't matter for me.
Charging is painfully slow if one is used to fast-charging models. But the present phones that OP's family uses are not those 10min 50% charging types.
charging should be slow and for me it doesn't matter.
Why? check this..
https://t.me/acc_group/50404 (or goto group > type /notes > select health)
for op and family they did smart thing for faster charging, others are just increasing voltage and current which isn't good for any battery. So i'm happy with slow charging.
I think moto and samsung does have charge protection too, which slows down charging more after 80% for moto and 85% samsung. can anyone confirm this thing?
Cameras, which the OP specified for two users, are almost flagship level.
are these better than iqoo neo 7 pro and op 11r?
mentioned in post
#12
Also as per
@singenaadam s20 fe better in camera and battery compared to s21 fe (do correct me if i'm wrong)
what about s23 fe, as budget allows me to go at that price.
I'd honestly steer away from Samsung made Snapdragon chips. 2 of my friends have the S22 series, they're always on power saving mode (60hz, no 5g, CPU speed limited to 70%, no AOD, reduced brightness) just to last through a workday.
For comparison, here's my S23, with sd gen 2 and tiny 3900mAh battery. Mix of 5g and WiFi, 120hz, AOD on, CPU not being throttled, no power saving.
very limited budget.
Not much options left with camera + performance things.
Considering upcoming heavy android updates on SoC.
